[Flightgear-devel] F-14

I guess this would be an interesting resource for anyone trying to develop an F-14 model. Just thought I'd share it!! http://www.topedge.com/panels/aircraft/sites/mats/f14-detail-dimensions.htm - Using Tomcat but need to do

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Home built projectors

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 John Wojnaroski wrote: > > Have also been experimenting with curved reflective surfaces trying to > remove/reduce the distortions caused by mapping a 3D world onto a 2D > plane. Idea is to project an image onto the surface and then reflect it > ont

[Flightgear-devel] OSG question ...

Hi guys , This is just a question to satisfy my curiosity , but what was the reason for choosing OpenSceneGraph over OpenSG ? The answer probably is obvious , just not to me ... Thanks, Syd - Using Tomcat but need to do more?

[Flightgear-devel] MSVC project files

Sorry for the long delay. But I have now checked in what MSVC Project files Olaf gave me. I know that they are not the most current but better than what we have in cvs up to now. For all those who have downloaded his files and modified them, you may creat a backup copy of your files before you

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Home built projectors

It was :-) Moving FG over to OSG raises the possibility of creating a multi-screen system with a single machine using a dual-headed video card in the AGP slot and one or more PCI graphics cards. I messed around with the idea a few months ago and had three monitors on a single machine with a ve

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Home built projectors

On 11/1/06, John Wojnaroski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Of course some of us work for universities with nice research budgets tobuy all sorts of high end gearOn the outside chance that was directed at me I'll just reply that I wish more of that budget was spent on salaries instead of simulator gear.

[Flightgear-devel] Home built projectors

You can build a "poor man projector" using an old AV viewgraph machine and cannabilizing an old 15" LCD glass panel. It is a bit tricky getting the glass separated from the frame and enclosure. The leads are very thin and you need to watch the heat build up from the viewgraph lamp; if success

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Terrain is offsetted (on LTBA Istanbul)

Our coastline, river, road, land use, land cover database is not as accurate as we would wish it to be. :-(Curt.On 11/1/06, Savaş Yatmaz < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:I'm at LTBA RWY 36 R.I can see myself right on mpmap.But in FG, airport(LTBA)is not in the right place.It's a bit offsetted to south.I

[Flightgear-devel] Terrain is offsetted (on LTBA Istanbul)

I'm at LTBA RWY 36 R.I can see myself right on mpmap.But in FG, airport(LTBA) is not in the right place.It's a bit offsetted to south.ILS approach lights hovers on sea etc.I think the terrain is not in the right place.Because i'm on the beginning of rwy both in FG and mpmap. why does this occur

Re: [Flightgear-devel] compiling OpenSceneGraph

Hi, Mike Rawlins wrote: >--- Mike Rawlins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >>--- Mike Rawlins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >>>--- Martin Spott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Mike, Mike Rawlins wrote: >>>Running fgfs, I got >>>errors about my fr

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Next release. Any timetable?

On Wednesday 01 November 2006 21:49, Melchior FRANZ wrote: > * Durk Talsma -- Wednesday 01 November 2006 21:46: > > Yikes! That's not supposed to happen. You can safely comment out the > > exit(), as FlightGear has a fallback mechanism in case no route is found. > > That exit() *was* already commen

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Next release. Any timetable?

* Durk Talsma -- Wednesday 01 November 2006 21:46: > Yikes! That's not supposed to happen. You can safely comment out the exit(), > as FlightGear has a fallback mechanism in case no route is found. That exit() *was* already commented out! (awynet.cxx:381) It must have triggered another exit().

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Next release. Any timetable?

On Wednesday 01 November 2006 21:10, Melchior FRANZ wrote: > * Durk Talsma -- Wednesday 01 November 2006 20:50: > > That's one area that needs improving. > > And here's another: FlightGear just decided to exit for no > acceptable reason in the middle of a harmless flight: > > Failed to find route

Re: [Flightgear-devel] compiling OpenSceneGraph

--- Mike Rawlins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- Mike Rawlins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > --- Martin Spott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Hi Mike, > > > > > > Mike Rawlins wrote: > > Running fgfs, I got > > errors about my freeglut 2.4.0 that I've read > about; > > now I

[Flightgear-devel] cerr & exit()

Please: o Don't commit cerr or fprintf(stderr, ...) to CVS! We have a log system. Use SG_LOG with the appropriate log-level. Please, don't overrate the importance of your error messages. o Don't spread exit() everywhere. If a susbsystem can't recover from a situation, then it should

Re: [Flightgear-devel] homemade sim

On 11/1/06, syd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I think I would prefer some type of projector setup... since now one canchange the aspect ratio of the display. The gut churning effect you getfrom watching something on the big screen just isn't there when you see it on a small tv. Hmm ...  another pr

Re: [Flightgear-devel] homemade sim

> And running 3 displays side by side versus a single display on a > single PC makes a *huge* difference in the "immersiveness" of the > simulation. > > Curt. I think I would prefer some type of projector setup... since now one can change the aspect ratio of the display. The gut churning effect

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [Fwd: Re: OpenSceneGraph, first feedback]

On Wednesday 01 November 2006 03:32, Georg Vollnhals wrote: > Hi Mathias: > > 1. Further investigations, new insights regarding the "FG-OSG black > screen problem" > - must be a terrain/ground problem, the a/c is located under the > surface when one selects special airports. > - found it out by us

Re: [Flightgear-devel] OpenSceneGraph, first feedback

Hi, On Wednesday 01 November 2006 00:43, Georg Vollnhals wrote: > I hope you did understand me right, all that feedback is not mentioned > as "it is broken, please fix it" but just to inform you about what works > on my O/S/PC hardware and what does not. If these feedbacks would come That comment

Re: [Flightgear-devel] compiling OpenSceneGraph

--- Mike Rawlins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- Martin Spott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi Mike, > > > > Mike Rawlins wrote: > Running fgfs, I got > errors about my freeglut 2.4.0 that I've read about; > now I've installed and compiled CVS freeglut. > Splash > screen starts, but t

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Next release. Any timetable?

* Durk Talsma -- Wednesday 01 November 2006 20:50: > That's one area that needs improving. And here's another: FlightGear just decided to exit for no acceptable reason in the middle of a harmless flight: Failed to find route from waypoint 31 to 124 [...] Program exited with code 01. Is the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Next release. Any timetable?

On Wednesday 01 November 2006 20:28, Melchior FRANZ wrote: > [traffic manager] > > * Durk Talsma -- Wednesday 01 November 2006 20:18: > > On Wednesday 01 November 2006 19:06, Melchior FRANZ wrote: > > > as long as the aircraft are hovering 30 m in the air > > > > Not sure whether you're referring t

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Next release. Any timetable?

[traffic manager] * Durk Talsma -- Wednesday 01 November 2006 20:18: > On Wednesday 01 November 2006 19:06, Melchior FRANZ wrote: > > as long as the aircraft are hovering 30 m in the air > Not sure whether you're referring to the fact that the aircraft seem to be > picking-up the additional elev

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Next release. Any timetable?

On Wednesday 01 November 2006 19:06, Melchior FRANZ wrote: > * Maik Justus -- Wednesday 01 November 2006 18:51: > > don't forget the improvements in the multiplayer code. > > Oh, yes. And also ... > > - many improvements to the traffic manager > > (probably not a teaser either, as long as the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Next release. Any timetable?

Hi Martin, Martin Spott schrieb: > so we might bear with this for some more > weeks until the OSG port has catched up, > > Martin. > If we can do this in a few week I will agree 100% with you. But I am not convinced, that this can be possible. It's not "only" to "activate" in osg the mi

Re: [Flightgear-devel] OpenSceneGraph, first feedback

Maik Justus schrieb: > > The missing blades are probably not due to the osg update. I think your > data and your flightgear source are not from the same date. Please > update both from cvs and then it should work. > > Maik > > Thank you Maik! Did not test the BO105 again after my data-update y

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Next release. Any timetable?

Maik Justus schrieb: > By the way: Mattias did a great work Sorry, should read Mathias. Maik - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated tech

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Next release. Any timetable?

Hi, Martin Spott schrieb: > On the other hand I feel that Curt currently doesn't have the > ressources he usually needs to spend for a release - so the whole > discussion might be void. > > I can not agree. If we all agree to convert the plib-branch to a fg9.11-alpha branch and add there only s

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Next release. Any timetable?

Maik Justus wrote: > don't forget the improvements in the multiplayer code. Oh yes, having different groups from the flying in different environments is really a bit unfortunate. A release might cure this effect - on the other hand this situation already lasted for months, so we might bear with

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Next release. Any timetable?

* Maik Justus -- Wednesday 01 November 2006 18:51: > don't forget the improvements in the multiplayer code. Oh, yes. And also ... - many improvements to the traffic manager (probably not a teaser either, as long as the aircraft are hovering 30 m in the air, but it's getting better and

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Next release. Any timetable?

Hi, don't forget the improvements in the multiplayer code. Maik Melchior FRANZ schrieb: > * Maik Justus -- Wednesday 01 November 2006 14:05: > >> is there any planning about the next release? I think we have many >> improvements in fg-cvs compared to 9.10 that we should at least discuss >>

Re: [Flightgear-devel] compiling OpenSceneGraph

--- Martin Spott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Mike, > > Mike Rawlins wrote: > > I see there's some work going on related to > > OpenSceneGraph. Per suggestions here, I've been > trying > > to compile the patched version from: > [...] > > g++ -O2 -L/usr/X11R6/lib -L../../../lib/Linux32 > >

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear starting time

Hi Thomas, I recommend to use MSVC Express. It is free and Olaf Flebbe has written a excellent howto, linked from the flightgear wikki. He supports osg and the plib-branch and has precompiled libraries to minimize your effort. I have compiled flightgear from the scratch 2 times with cygwin and

[Flightgear-devel] Reading out fdm data of FG via socket

I wrote a small program to receive fdm data out of flightgear using a socket connection. as for the cessna 172 it fairly works, however the rudder position doesnt seem to be transmitted. aileron and elevator both work, rudder doesnt.   but the more severe problem is that once i change the aircraft

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Next release. Any timetable?

Melchior FRANZ wrote: > * Martin Spott -- Wednesday 01 November 2006 17:44: > > Melchior FRANZ wrote: > > > We don't need to rename the clumsy tag to something else. ("PLIB" > > > would have been perfectly fine, and easy to remember, but we can > > > live with the ugliness, too. ;-) > > > > I'm g

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear starting time

I think to answer quickly, the version we distribute in binary form is built with MSVC and you are building with cygwin.  I think it has been reported in the past that cygwin has some serious IO efficiencies due to some sort of thread blocking.  Apparently this isn't a priority for the cygwin team,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Next release. Any timetable?

* Martin Spott -- Wednesday 01 November 2006 17:44: > Melchior FRANZ wrote: > > We don't need to rename the clumsy tag to something else. ("PLIB" > > would have been perfectly fine, and easy to remember, but we can > > live with the ugliness, too. ;-) > > I'm glad that the prophet didn't exclude

Re: [Flightgear-devel] OSG compiled ....but

On 11/1/06, Lou Sanchez-Chopitea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:     The price certainly sounds like a lot when compared to a used 172which can put you back about $50K or less 8^).The counter argument is that a simulator can be used to train for certain types of failures, or extreme weather conditions,

[Flightgear-devel] FlightGear starting time

hey there,   i noticed that the version of flightgear i built from scratch using cygwin takes significantly more time to start up (about 4-5 minutes) than the one i installed using the exe-file from flightgear.org (about 1-2 minutes). is there any specific reason for this and are there any ways t

Re: [Flightgear-devel] compiling OpenSceneGraph

Hi Mike, Mike Rawlins wrote: > I see there's some work going on related to > OpenSceneGraph. Per suggestions here, I've been trying > to compile the patched version from: [...] > g++ -O2 -L/usr/X11R6/lib -L../../../lib/Linux32 > OrientationConverter.o osgconv.o-lstdc++ > -losgProducer -lPro

Re: [Flightgear-devel] OSG compiled ....but

Hi, Curtis Olson wrote: > On 10/31/06, *syd* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: > > I watched Justice , it certainly was Flightgear ,I recognised it > immediately, but I was more interested in the setup .I want one now ! > What'll it cost me to have you set one u

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Next release. Any timetable?

Martin Spott wrote: > I agree with melchior that [...] ^ Sorry, Melchior, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- --

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Next release. Any timetable?

Melchior FRANZ wrote: > It will take a while until fgfs/OSG has all features of fgfs/PLIB, > and even longer until it does it with the same performance. [...] > We don't need to rename the clumsy tag to something else. ("PLIB" > would have been perfectly fine, and easy to remember, but we can > li

Re: [Flightgear-devel] OSG compiled ....but

Robert Black wrote: > Olson's recommendations to buy three more computers causes large swell > of domestic unrest among flight simmers. According to my understanding, the move to use OSG as scene graph will enable us to run multiple screens using a single instance of FlightGear on a single comput

Re: [Flightgear-devel] OSG compiled ....but

Robert Black wrote: > Olson's recommendations to buy three more computers causes large swell > of domestic unrest among flight simmers. > More on this developing story as details come in. Round here that'd get me "see - he says you only need 4 computers, you can get rid of the rest". ;-) --

Re: [Flightgear-devel] OSG compiled ....but

On 11/1/06, Robert Black <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Olson's recommendations to buy three more computers causes large swellof domestic unrest among flight simmers.More on this developing story as details come in.I'll take the blame for it, but you only have to see 3 monitors (or maybe 5 lcd proj

Re: [Flightgear-devel] OSG compiled ....but

Olson's recommendations to buy three more computers causes large swell of domestic unrest among flight simmers. More on this developing story as details come in. Curtis Olson wrote: > On 10/31/06, *syd* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: > > I watched Justice , it

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Next release. Any timetable?

* Maik Justus -- Wednesday 01 November 2006 14:05: > is there any planning about the next release? I think we have many > improvements in fg-cvs compared to 9.10 that we should at least discuss > this topic. I agree. There are (IIRC): - complete overhaul of the helicopter FDM - air-to-air r

Re: [Flightgear-devel] OSG compiled ....but

On 10/31/06, syd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I watched Justice , it certainly was Flightgear ,I recognised itimmediately, but I was more interested in the setup .I want one now !What'll it cost me to have you  set one up for me , Curt?  ;) That particular simulator with an enclosure (not shown in th

[Flightgear-devel] Next release. Any timetable?

Hello, is there any planning about the next release? I think we have many improvements in fg-cvs compared to 9.10 that we should at least discuss this topic. What's about to "rename" the pre-osg-branch to a 9.11-beta branch? I don't know, how the procedure for fg-releases are, but I would vote

[Flightgear-devel] X-15 on CVS ?

Hi everybody, I thought it might be nice to upload the current 3D model of the X-15 to the CVS repository. That would allow people play around with the model in its very early alpha state :o) This model is to be released under GPL (even though there is no source code for it) As the most adva

Re: [Flightgear-devel] UFO - Object_SIGN

* Darko Tasovac -- Saturday 28 October 2006 13:50: > I've downloaded ufo aircraft from the flightgear/aircraft, version > 20060710. I put the runway sign on the scenery (see attachment). > According to the quoted instruction, I put string in the lower left > corner but after Enter pessed, nothing

Re: [Flightgear-devel] OpenSceneGraph, first feedback

Georg Vollnhals schrieb: Hi Mathias: 1. Further investigations, new insights regarding the "FG-OSG black screen problem" - must be a terrain/ground problem, the a/c is located under the surface when one selects special airports. - found it out by using the UFO, it is located under the surface bu

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ATR72

Me too :) > I hope someday finish it > > - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Appli

Re: [Flightgear-devel] OpenSceneGraph, first feedback

Hi, Georg Vollnhals schrieb: > Hi Mathias, > > http://home.arcor.de/vollnhals-bremen/OSGErr/fgfs-screen-0154.jpg [bo105: > missing blades] > > Regards > Georg > The missing blades are probably not due to the osg update. I think your data and your flightgear source are not from the same dat