Re: [Flightgear-devel] BlackBird SR-71

2007-06-14 Thread Jon S. Berndt
> I don't mean that is right, i only mean we have a lot of work to > do before to get the right FDM. > > Thanks for your feed back. > > -- > Gérard Bingo. SR-71 technical data for simulation: http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/20020057965_2002092400. pdf http://ntrs.nasa.go

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Bugs to Concorde

2007-06-14 Thread Reagan Thomas
Forums Virgin Net wrote: > *A great BIG Thank You* > *to RAThomas, :o)* >The sliding issue in Concorde appears to have > been fixed, Thanks for the vote of confidence, but let me be clear that I don't consider it to be fully fixed. Yes, we have found something which

[Flightgear-devel] Bugs to Concorde

2007-06-14 Thread Forums Virgin Net
A great BIG Thank You to RAThomas, :o) The sliding issue in Concorde appears to have been fixed, I am currently doing a test flight and their do seem to be some anomolies or perhaps unrelated instability's? Observations and comparisons: Stability During cruising at 51,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Slew problem with Concorde and other JSBsim aircraft nearly solved

2007-06-14 Thread Reagan Thomas
Reagan Thomas wrote: > I spent a few hours today trying determine what was causing the Concorde > model to slew around on the ground in an erratic way as reported > previously by Aerotro. I believe I have gotten very near to the root of > the problem. > > First some info: > > 1. Aerotro

Re: [Flightgear-devel] EAA Oshkosh

2007-06-14 Thread Martin Spott
Hi Paul, Bohnert Paul wrote: > Last year I noticed a few vendors were using FlightGear. Mostly to > demostate flight simulator hardware. It would be great to get some case-stories from such use of FlightGear, stories preferrably with one or two nice pictures that we could present on the Fligh

[Flightgear-devel] Slew problem with Concorde and other JSBsim aircraft nearly solved

2007-06-14 Thread Reagan Thomas
I spent a few hours today trying determine what was causing the Concorde model to slew around on the ground in an erratic way as reported previously by Aerotro. I believe I have gotten very near to the root of the problem. First some info: 1. Aerotro noticed this problem when she began us

[Flightgear-devel] EAA Oshkosh

2007-06-14 Thread Bohnert Paul
All, The EAA fly-in at Oshkosh is the last week of July. Is anyone doing anything FlightGear related at EAA Oshkosh this year? Last year I noticed a few vendors were using FlightGear. Mostly to demostate flight simulator hardware. Robin's latest airport data file has an imporved Osh

Re: [Flightgear-devel] BlackBird SR-71

2007-06-14 Thread gh.robin
On Thu 14 June 2007 20:59, Bill Galbraith wrote: > Okay, now someone needs to refuel behind it. I understand the tanker is > firewalled, and the SR-71 is on the verge of stalling. > > Bill Bill, Yes, you just put the finger where the pain is the most important -- Gérard

Re: [Flightgear-devel] BlackBird SR-71

2007-06-14 Thread Bill Galbraith
Okay, now someone needs to refuel behind it. I understand the tanker is firewalled, and the SR-71 is on the verge of stalling. Bill - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version

Re: [Flightgear-devel] BlackBird SR-71

2007-06-14 Thread gh.robin
On Thu 14 June 2007 19:37, Nick Warne wrote: > Hi Gérard, > > On Thursday 14 June 2007 12:01:25 gh.robin wrote: > > Hello, everybody > > > > those who knows my URL http://perso.orange.fr/GRTux/ > > have noticed a lot of model, which are not longer available. > > I made these Aircraft some years a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] BlackBird SR-71

2007-06-14 Thread Nick Warne
Hi Gérard, On Thursday 14 June 2007 12:01:25 gh.robin wrote: > Hello, everybody > > those who knows my URL http://perso.orange.fr/GRTux/ > have noticed a lot of model, which are not longer available. > I made these Aircraft some years ago , they where flying with FG 0.9.8. > They were built main

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fwd: Flight Gear being sold on ebay

2007-06-14 Thread Curtis Olson
On 6/14/07, Ampere K. Hardraade wrote: On Thursday 14 June 2007 10:29, Reagan Thomas wrote: > The method I used was to bring the message to the fraudster's target > audience by offering the same product on ebay using the same keywords, > but making it very clear in the body of the auction [1] th

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fwd: Flight Gear being sold on ebay

2007-06-14 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On Thursday 14 June 2007 10:29, Reagan Thomas wrote: > The method I used was to bring the message to the fraudster's target > audience by offering the same product on ebay using the same keywords, > but making it very clear in the body of the auction [1] the true nature > of the product (and where

[Flightgear-devel] patch for control locking by autopilot

2007-06-14 Thread woodyst
Hello friends: My name is Eduardo García-Mádico Portabella and I am from Spain, so English is not my native Language. I posted some months ago an email because my yoke made interferences with autopilot because its lack of force feedback. You may remember that I exposed the problem that, as in a r

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fwd: Flight Gear being sold on ebay

2007-06-14 Thread Ralf Gerlich
Hi! Even though I don't like the kind of behaviour the seller is exhibiting, from the article page alone I cannot see any legal problem regarding the GPL. Changing the name is legitimate in general as the GPL IIRC does not require the distributor to credit the original authors with anything else t

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear at the 25th Falklands/Malvinas

2007-06-14 Thread Stuart Buchanan
--- Martin Spott wrote: > Stuart Buchanan wrote: > > > I'm going to be there running FlightGear with some short interactive > > scenarios for the visitors. We're hoping to have two digital > projectors > > running, so it should look pretty good. > > While I have, well, "mixed feelings" about the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Multiplayer bugfix

2007-06-14 Thread Oliver Schroeder
Hi Curt, On Donnerstag, 14. Juni 2007 16:40, Curtis Olson wrote: > Is there any way this patch can be reworked so it is functional with > plib-1.8.4? I guess my fingers were faster then my brain. Sorry for that. I have reworked the patch to be functional with plib-1.8.4 again. regards, Oliver

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Multiplayer bugfix

2007-06-14 Thread Martin Spott
Hi Curt, "Curtis Olson" wrote: > Is there any way this patch can be reworked so it is functional with > plib-1.8.4? It takes plib-1.8.4 just a few days to become two and a half years old and Steve apparently is not inclined to do _anything_ in order to issue yet another release. I really doubt t

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fwd: Flight Gear being sold on ebay

2007-06-14 Thread Berndt, Jon S
See attached forwarded message. Someone is selling FlightGear on ebay. This time there is no mention of our project name, they have changed the name and are calling it "Pro Aircraft Flight Simulator". In addition, they are using the same sleazy tactics of selling a digital download, not

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear at the 25th Falklands/Malvinas

2007-06-14 Thread Martin Spott
Stuart Buchanan wrote: > I'm going to be there running FlightGear with some short interactive > scenarios for the visitors. We're hoping to have two digital projectors > running, so it should look pretty good. While I have, well, "mixed feelings" about the Falkland conflict I'm happy to hear that

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Multiplayer bugfix

2007-06-14 Thread Curtis Olson
Oliver, I'm a bit concerned here because our policy has always been to depend on the most recent official release of plib. Plib releases actually get packaged and included in many linux distributions (or have in the past) so having older versions of plib hiding around on your system when you dep

Re: [Flightgear-devel] BlackBird SR-71

2007-06-14 Thread Martin Spott
Stefan Seifert wrote: > His problem is, that the models are described as being GPL-licensed, but > the website states, that it's forbidden to sell these files or upload > them to a paysite, which would be allowed by the GPL. Well, Gerard has been posting the single link to the Blackbird on this l

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fwd: Flight Gear being sold on ebay

2007-06-14 Thread Stefan Seifert
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Curtis Olson wrote: > On 6/14/07, Bill Galbraith wrote: > > But he has changed the name of the product and removed all reference to > "FlightGear" in his ad, that has to at least be a copyright infringement??? > FlightGear is not public domain where an

Re: [Flightgear-devel] BlackBird SR-71

2007-06-14 Thread gh.robin
On Thu 14 June 2007 16:20, Stefan Seifert wrote: > gh.robin wrote: > >> So, was this statement only for the Noratlas, or all contributions > >> by you that you offer under the GPL? But what's with the "under > >> no circumstances" thing from your homepage then? You know that the > >> GPL explicitly

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fwd: Flight Gear being sold on ebay

2007-06-14 Thread Stefan Seifert
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bill Galbraith wrote: > I agree that his actions are slimy, but is this action actually an allowable > form of packaging this software. I am not an expert on this matter, by any > stretch of the imagination, but if I put FG and all of the available ai

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fwd: Flight Gear being sold on ebay

2007-06-14 Thread Reagan Thomas
They're not the only ones selling FlighGear on ebay. But others I've seen, while misleading, at least showed graphics including the FlightGear name and logo in the body of their auction. It looks like these guys are also trying to borrow on the name "Pro Flight" (a maybe dead product from Sierr

Re: [Flightgear-devel] BlackBird SR-71

2007-06-14 Thread Martin Spott
"gh.robin" wrote: > On Thu 14 June 2007 14:52, Martin Spott wrote: > > I propose to make generics out of these instruments that are being > > used in more than one aircraft - not just in the SR-71 but in several > > other aircraft as well > > The target is to have customised instruments, ho

Re: [Flightgear-devel] BlackBird SR-71

2007-06-14 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* gh.robin -- Thursday 14 June 2007: > On Thu 14 June 2007 15:43, Melchior FRANZ wrote: [http://perso.orange.fr/GRTux/] > > Here's a problem though: this page says "Under no circumstances > > may these files be sold or uploaded to a payware site." > I don't understand YOUR problem. OK, let me ex

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Multiplayer bugfix

2007-06-14 Thread Oliver Schroeder
On Mittwoch, 13. Juni 2007 16:17, Oliver Schroeder wrote: > http://www.o-schroeder.de/fg_server/mp_bugfix.diff I have updated the patch today and integrated the latest patch from pigeon, sent earlier ("(Maybe) patch to FG MP" from 06.06.2006). The downside is, this version does not compile with

Re: [Flightgear-devel] BlackBird SR-71

2007-06-14 Thread Stefan Seifert
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 gh.robin wrote: >> So, was this statement only for the Noratlas, or all contributions >> by you that you offer under the GPL? But what's with the "under >> no circumstances" thing from your homepage then? You know that the >> GPL explicitly allows sel

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fwd: Flight Gear being sold on ebay

2007-06-14 Thread Stuart Buchanan
--- Curtis Olson wrote: > On 6/14/07, Bill Galbraith wrote: > > > > DId you report this to EBay? They are usually pretty good about > > resolving issues like this. > > > > I reported it myself, but i think if everyone on this list took a minute > and > also reported it, ebay couldn't simply dis

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fwd: Flight Gear being sold on ebay

2007-06-14 Thread Curtis Olson
On 6/14/07, Bill Galbraith wrote: I agree that his actions are slimy, but is this action actually an allowable form of packaging this software. I am not an expert on this matter, by any stretch of the imagination, but if I put FG and all of the available aicraft on a CD and sold the CD for the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fwd: Flight Gear being sold on ebay

2007-06-14 Thread Bill Galbraith
_ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curtis Olson Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 10:02 AM To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fwd: Flight Gear being sold on ebay On 6/14/07, Bill Galbraith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: DId

Re: [Flightgear-devel] BlackBird SR-71

2007-06-14 Thread gh.robin
On Thu 14 June 2007 15:43, Melchior FRANZ wrote: > That's a very well done model. Not that this would surprise me, > you've always been one of the most talented modelers. (Which is > one of the reasons why I was unhappy about past events. But > those are no longer relevant.) > > * gh.robin -- Thurs

Re: [Flightgear-devel] BlackBird SR-71

2007-06-14 Thread gh.robin
On Thu 14 June 2007 14:52, Martin Spott wrote: > Hi Gerard, > > "gh.robin" wrote: > > The first one , is the BlackBird SR-71 available here > > Heh, what a nice addition ! > I took the freedom to comment references to your F-8 from two files in > the Instruments section of the SR-71 (you'll see fr

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fwd: Flight Gear being sold on ebay

2007-06-14 Thread Curtis Olson
On 6/14/07, Bill Galbraith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: DId you report this to EBay? They are usually pretty good about resolving issues like this. I reported it myself, but i think if everyone on this list took a minute and also reported it, ebay couldn't simply discount me as some lunatic d

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fwd: Flight Gear being sold on ebay

2007-06-14 Thread Bill Galbraith
DId you report this to EBay? They are usually pretty good about resolving issues like this. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curtis Olson Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 9:50 AM To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: [Flightgear-devel] Fwd: Flight G

[Flightgear-devel] Fwd: Flight Gear being sold on ebay

2007-06-14 Thread Curtis Olson
See attached forwarded message. Someone is selling FlightGear on ebay. This time there is no mention of our project name, they have changed the name and are calling it "Pro Aircraft Flight Simulator". In addition, they are using the same sleazy tactics of selling a digital download, not actual m

Re: [Flightgear-devel] BlackBird SR-71

2007-06-14 Thread Melchior FRANZ
That's a very well done model. Not that this would surprise me, you've always been one of the most talented modelers. (Which is one of the reasons why I was unhappy about past events. But those are no longer relevant.) * gh.robin -- Thursday 14 June 2007: > those who knows my URL http://perso.ora

Re: [Flightgear-devel] tacan.cxx fix to follow AITanker.cxx

2007-06-14 Thread Thomas Förster
Am Donnerstag 14 Juni 2007 14:45 schrieb Vivian Meazza: > > My problem - I only had tanker in my scenario. Not > tankeraircraft. The AI code chooses the class used based on so I had to change that to use the new FGAITanker class. > That looks pretty ugly - we only need > carrier although i

[Flightgear-devel] For the - Author of Concorde - short Video of problem 1m24s

2007-06-14 Thread Forums Virgin Net
FlightGear Simulator - Concorde Error sliding Left to right on ice rink Download Link http://files.ww.com/files/34642.html 10 MB DivX. Aerotro Online FlightGear Simulator Tracker Page. http://mpserver04.flightgear.org http://www.flightgear.org-

Re: [Flightgear-devel] BlackBird SR-71

2007-06-14 Thread Martin Spott
Hi Gerard, "gh.robin" wrote: > The first one , is the BlackBird SR-71 available here Heh, what a nice addition ! I took the freedom to comment references to your F-8 from two files in the Instruments section of the SR-71 (you'll see from the CVS changelog). I propose to make generics out of t

Re: [Flightgear-devel] tacan.cxx fix to follow AITanker.cxx

2007-06-14 Thread Durk Talsma
On Thursday 14 June 2007 14:45, Vivian Meazza wrote: > > My problem - I only had tanker in my scenario. Not > tanker carrier although it is a subset of AIShip. > > V. > > Okay, Thanks. It looks like I have the contact code also working again, but I'm still struggling with a few details. Should be

Re: [Flightgear-devel] BlackBird SR-71

2007-06-14 Thread Jon Stockill
Martin Spott wrote: > Hi Gerard, > > "gh.robin" wrote: > >> The first one , is the BlackBird SR-71 available here > > Heh, what a nice addition ! > I took the freedom to comment references to your F-8 from two files in > the Instruments section of the SR-71 (you'll see from the CVS > changelog

Re: [Flightgear-devel] tacan.cxx fix to follow AITanker.cxx

2007-06-14 Thread Vivian Meazza
Durk > Sent: 14 June 2007 12:57 > To: FlightGear developers discussions > Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] tacan.cxx fix to follow AITanker.cxx > > > Hi Vivian, > > On Thursday 14 June 2007 13:39, Vivian Meazza wrote: > > Durk > > > > > Sent: 14 June 2007 06:57 > > > To: FlightGear developers di

Re: [Flightgear-devel] tacan.cxx fix to follow AITanker.cxx

2007-06-14 Thread Durk Talsma
On Thursday 14 June 2007 13:57, Durk Talsma wrote: > Until it works. I'm having a working TACAN again, and I'm still > investigating the contact nodes, The fix for the nasal scripts looks easy > enough, and I'm close to finding out what is going on as to why FGAITanker > isn't updating yet. > Okay

Re: [Flightgear-devel] BlackBird SR-71

2007-06-14 Thread AJ MacLeod
On Thursday 14 June 2007 12:01, gh.robin wrote: > The first one , is the BlackBird SR-71 available here Looks nice from the pictures, but we're missing a file in CVS; It apparently relies on Aircraft/F-8E/Instruments/Temoin-BasePt.xml Cheers, AJ ---

Re: [Flightgear-devel] BlackBird SR-71

2007-06-14 Thread gh.robin
On Thu 14 June 2007 13:40, leee wrote: > > http://perso.orange.fr/GRTux/BlackBird-pic1.jpg > > http://perso.orange.fr/GRTux/BlackBird-pic2.jpg > > http://perso.orange.fr/GRTux/BlackBird-pic3.jpg > > > > Regards > > Hi Gerard, > > the SR-71 model looks as though it has some nice detail in it but I

Re: [Flightgear-devel] tacan.cxx fix to follow AITanker.cxx

2007-06-14 Thread Durk Talsma
Hi Vivian, On Thursday 14 June 2007 13:39, Vivian Meazza wrote: > Durk > > > Sent: 14 June 2007 06:57 > > To: FlightGear developers discussions > > Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] tacan.cxx fix to follow AITanker.cxx > > > > On Wednesday 13 June 2007 23:12, alexis bory wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > >

Re: [Flightgear-devel] C++ code beautifier / Coding

2007-06-14 Thread leee
On Thursday 14 June 2007 04:27, Csaba Halász wrote: [snip...] > Finally some words about development in general. Of course everybody > should test their changes prior to submitting them for inclusion, but > I don't think this is such a serious matter. [snip...] > Greets, > Csaba It was a very seri

Re: [Flightgear-devel] groundspeed patches...

2007-06-14 Thread Holger Wirtz
Syd, On Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 06:50:45PM -0700, syd & sandy wrote: > Here are the patches to display groundspeed in knots in /velocities... > Please let me know if they are can be included in the source > Although the plib and osg version of these files are identical , I've created > a patch

Re: [Flightgear-devel] BlackBird SR-71

2007-06-14 Thread leee
On Thursday 14 June 2007 12:01, gh.robin wrote: > Hello, everybody > > those who knows my URL http://perso.orange.fr/GRTux/ > have noticed a lot of model, which are not longer available. > I made these Aircraft some years ago , they where flying with FG 0.9.8. > They were built mainly to answer s

Re: [Flightgear-devel] tacan.cxx fix to follow AITanker.cxx

2007-06-14 Thread Vivian Meazza
Durk > > Sent: 14 June 2007 06:57 > To: FlightGear developers discussions > Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] tacan.cxx fix to follow AITanker.cxx > > > On Wednesday 13 June 2007 23:12, alexis bory wrote: > > Hi, > > > > TACAN has to search the new AI submode 'tanker'. > > > > This tiny patch can

[Flightgear-devel] A-10 fuel management trown to Attic by error

2007-06-14 Thread alexis bory
Hi, Bring back from Attic where it was thrown by error. Fix to follow new AITanker. Same file for both PLIB and OSG. Thanks for commiting, Alexis # Properties under /consumables/fuel/tank[n]: # + level-gal_us- Current fuel load. Can be set by user code. # + level-lbs - OUTPUT ONLY p

[Flightgear-devel] A-10 fuel management

2007-06-14 Thread alexis bory
Hi, Bring back from Attic where it was trowed by error. Fix to follow new AITanker. Same file for both PLIB and OSG. Thanks for commiting # Properties under /consumables/fuel/tank[n]: # + level-gal_us- Current fuel load. Can be set by user code. # + level-lbs - OUTPUT ONLY property,

[Flightgear-devel] BlackBird SR-71

2007-06-14 Thread gh.robin
Hello, everybody those who knows my URL http://perso.orange.fr/GRTux/ have noticed a lot of model, which are not longer available. I made these Aircraft some years ago , they where flying with FG 0.9.8. They were built mainly to answer some friends request. I am going to make these aircraft to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] C++ code beautifier / Coding

2007-06-14 Thread alexis bory
Durk Talsma a écrit : > On Thursday 14 June 2007 12:06, alexis bory wrote: > > alexis bory a écrit : > >> But AAR seem to be broken too... Yesterday first tests show that > >> contact don't behave has expected. I'll try to confirm this > >> today. > > The tests I've made this morning confirm that

Re: [Flightgear-devel] C++ code beautifier / Coding

2007-06-14 Thread Durk Talsma
On Thursday 14 June 2007 12:06, alexis bory wrote: > alexis bory a écrit : > > But AAR seem to be broken too... Yesterday first tests show that > > contact don't behave has expected. I'll try to confirm this today. > > The tests I've made this morning confirm that tanker contact doesn't > work an

Re: [Flightgear-devel] C++ code beautifier / Coding

2007-06-14 Thread alexis bory
alexis bory a écrit : > But AAR seem to be broken too... Yesterday first tests show that > contact don't behave has expected. I'll try to confirm this today. The tests I've made this morning confirm that tanker contact doesn't work anymore. Cheers, Alexis

Re: [Flightgear-devel] C++ code beautifier / Coding

2007-06-14 Thread Vivian Meazza
Csaba Halász > Sent: 14 June 2007 04:28 > > Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] C++ code beautifier / Coding > > > On 6/14/07, Martin Spott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "Vivian Meazza" wrote: > > > > > Lesson for the future. Understand what code does, test that it > > > doesn't break anything, m

Re: [Flightgear-devel] C++ code beautifier / Coding

2007-06-14 Thread Vivian Meazza
Alexis > > Csaba Halász a écrit : > > > Looks like tacan is the magic word to make Vivian mad ;) > > Don't worry, Csaba, TACAN works again now... Whoa. I'm sorry I was out last night and haven't had a chance to properly test that nice little patch (although I see that it has been committed to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] C++ code beautifier / Coding

2007-06-14 Thread alexis bory
Csaba Halász a écrit : > Looks like tacan is the magic word to make Vivian mad ;) Don't worry, Csaba, TACAN works again now... But AAR seem to be broken too... Yesterday first tests show that contact don't behave has expected. I'll try to confirm this today. > Some bad-tempered mail started s

Re: [Flightgear-devel] C++ code beautifier / Coding

2007-06-14 Thread Vivian Meazza
Martin > Behalf Of Spott > Sent: 13 June 2007 23:58 > To: flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] C++ code beautifier / Coding > > > "Vivian Meazza" wrote: > > > Lesson for the future. Understand what code does, test that > it doesn't > > break anything, make