Re: [Flightgear-devel] Flightgear-devel Digest, Vol 33, Issue 26

2009-01-24 Thread syd adams
well not if it has the word "Boeing" in it , if I understand correctly. But I have no objection to removing or modifying any of my aircraft if they might possibly cause problems, or don't fit the GPL licence Cheers On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 11:43 AM, Stefan Seifert wrote: > On Saturday, 24. J

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Flightgear-devel Digest, Vol 33, Issue 26

2009-01-24 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* gerard robin -- Saturday 24 January 2009: > My point [...] was to remind that period when we had a specific > stable aircraft directory. When was that? I'm FlightGear developer since March 2001, and in that time we never had such a directory. And at that time we only had one aircraft, so I dou

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Flightgear-devel Digest, Vol 33, Issue 26

2009-01-24 Thread gerard robin
On samedi 24 janvier 2009, syd adams wrote: > > Hi Emmanuel , > > My thoughts were to move the "extra" or "non sellable" aircraft out of cvs > /data , not to erase them completely I am working on the Boeing 777 , > so this issue is of some interest to me > Cheers Hi, Syd don't be wron

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Flightgear-devel Digest, Vol 33, Issue 26

2009-01-24 Thread Stefan Seifert
On Saturday, 24. January 2009, syd adams wrote: > My thoughts were to move the "extra" or "non sellable" aircraft out of cvs > /data , not to erase them completely I am working on the Boeing 777 , > so this issue is of some interest to me Why is it, since the 777 is clearly as sellable

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Flightgear-devel Digest, Vol 33, Issue 26

2009-01-24 Thread syd adams
> I am tired of the negative attitudes of some. > > CVS is a place of study, research, development. It is not there to the > users. Please. > > The stable official FG contains a minimum of aircraft representing a wide > diversity. That's enough. And there is no place to get lost. > > Those who choo

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Update to data/Aircraft/Instruments-3d/kx165

2009-01-24 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Stuart Buchanan -- Saturday 24 January 2009: > The patch is attached. I'm not that familiar with the case, but wasn't the diagnosis first that it's a bug somewhere? In this case I wouldn't like a nasal hack around that in common space. I prefer fixes to hacks. :-) > Assuming that we want to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Microsoft Shuts Down 'Flight Simulator' Game

2009-01-24 Thread Martin Spott
Curtis Olson wrote: > That said, we should be prepared for a lot of new folks at least coming and > taking a quick look at what we are doing over here, so when new faces show > up, please be welcoming and patient with them! Well said ! Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just sel

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Flightgear-devel Digest, Vol 33, Issue 26

2009-01-24 Thread Curtis Olson
On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 12:14 PM, Martin Spott wrote: > gerard robin wrote: > > On samedi 24 janvier 2009, BARANGER Emmanuel wrote: > > > > I am tired of the negative attitudes of some. > > > > Have some rest :) :):) > > You don't do anyone a favour by belitteling Emmanuel's statement. I >

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Flightgear-devel Digest, Vol 33, Issue 26

2009-01-24 Thread Martin Spott
gerard robin wrote: > On samedi 24 janvier 2009, BARANGER Emmanuel wrote: > > I am tired of the negative attitudes of some. > > Have some rest :) :):) You don't do anyone a favour by belitteling Emmanuel's statement. I propose you'd better think about it, Martin. -- Unix _IS_

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Flightgear-devel Digest, Vol 33, Issue 26

2009-01-24 Thread gerard robin
On samedi 24 janvier 2009, BARANGER Emmanuel wrote: > I am tired of the negative attitudes of some. Have some rest :) :):) > > CVS is a place of study, research, development. It is not there to the > users. Please. > > The stable official FG contains a minimum of aircraft representing a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Flightgear-devel Digest, Vol 33, Issue 26

2009-01-24 Thread BARANGER Emmanuel
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 13:23:59 +0100 From: gerard robin Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Licensing and disclaimers for aircraft models To: FlightGear developers discussions Message-ID: <200901241323.59854.ghma...@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" On Sat,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 1.9.1

2009-01-24 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Tim Moore a écrit : > Frederic Bouvier wrote: > >> Hi Tim, >> >> > > >> Would you mind adding this commit to the VC7.1 directory : >> Fri Jan 16 07:31:01 2009 UTC : Update MSVC 7.1 project >> >> Otherwise I managed to get it with git and build it. I am just waiting >> instructions ;-) >

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Microsoft Shuts Down 'Flight Simulator' Game Studio

2009-01-24 Thread Curtis Olson
On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 8:16 AM, Jon S. Berndt wrote: > GWMobile wrote: > > > I just want to thank everyone here for the time and passion they've > > poured into Flight Sim for so many years, and to let you all know that > > every person at ACES is in awe of how much the community cares about > >

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Microsoft Shuts Down 'Flight Simulator' Game Studio

2009-01-24 Thread Jon S. Berndt
GWMobile wrote: > I just want to thank everyone here for the time and passion they've > poured into Flight Sim for so many years, and to let you all know that > every person at ACES is in awe of how much the community cares about > what we build." > > It seems unlikely that Flight Simulator wil

[Flightgear-devel] Microsoft Shuts Down 'Flight Simulator' Game Studio

2009-01-24 Thread GWMobile
Wow. While this doesn't mean they are shutting down the software it does mean a historic milestone far beyond what most people realize. I attached the press release/story below but allow me to explain how momentous this is first becuase Having worked with so many of the guys at Microsoft when the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 1.9.1

2009-01-24 Thread Tim Moore
Frederic Bouvier wrote: > Hi Tim, > > Would you mind adding this commit to the VC7.1 directory : > Fri Jan 16 07:31:01 2009 UTC : Update MSVC 7.1 project > > Otherwise I managed to get it with git and build it. I am just waiting > instructions ;-) > > -Fred > It's already there. Remember, "m

Re: [Flightgear-devel] R.I.P. MSFS?

2009-01-24 Thread Christian Buchner
> ..this might be a good time to have good guides on the GPL and > FG protocols etc quirks, get ready for the Ex-MSFS crowd? ;o) > I can see all these fine people, learning a few rough lessons > that we all can eventually, um, profit from. ;o) You might want to start by adding an MS FSX compatibl

Re: [Flightgear-devel] R.I.P. MSFS?

2009-01-24 Thread Melchior FRANZ
Looks like some self-proclaimed "experts" don't have a very high opinion of fgfs' realism: http://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/7s2hf/microsoft_shuts_down_flight_simulator_game_studio/ "Flightgear is a toy. MS Flightsim could and was (Germany, 2005) actually be used in flight training".

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Licensing and disclaimers for aircraft models

2009-01-24 Thread gerard robin
On samedi 24 janvier 2009, syd adams wrote: > I have to agree with the last 2 options maybe keep a select few to go > with the release. It would make the first time data update more pleasant > :). We had it (some years ago) "the first time data update more pleasant" when there was a specif

Re: [Flightgear-devel] "distance to camera" property

2009-01-24 Thread James Sleeman
Melchior FRANZ wrote: > * James Sleeman -- Saturday 24 January 2009: > >> Is there a property one can read which gives the distance to the >> camera/observer specifically in the external views, >> > > var aircraft = geo.aircraft_position(); > var viewer = geo.viewer_position(); > > var

Re: [Flightgear-devel] R.I.P. MSFS?

2009-01-24 Thread blaat blaat
Ironically even using FlightGear for illustrating a crash... http://venturebeat.com/2009/01/23/microsofts-game-studios-take-a-beating-in-layoffs/ Martin -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SourcForge Community SourceFo

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 1.9.1

2009-01-24 Thread Tim Moore
Durk Talsma wrote: > Hi Tim, > > On Friday 23 January 2009 23:40:47 Timothy Moore wrote: >> Durk Talsma wrote: > >> How is this going? I've checked in a couple of fixes to the flightgear and >> simgear maint branches since 18 January. >> >> Tim >> > > I think we're pretty much ready. I built a b

Re: [Flightgear-devel] "distance to camera" property

2009-01-24 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* James Sleeman -- Saturday 24 January 2009: > Is there a property one can read which gives the distance to the > camera/observer specifically in the external views, var aircraft = geo.aircraft_position(); var viewer = geo.viewer_position(); var distance = viewer.direct_distance_to(aircraft);

Re: [Flightgear-devel] a few more bugs

2009-01-24 Thread Erik Hofman
John Denker wrote: > One guy says not to report bugs in the "old" FGPiston, > because it has been "fixed upstream". > > Another guy say snot to report bugs in the "new" FGPiston, > because it is not "committed code". > > I guess that's one way to make sure there are no reported > bugs. Fair en

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Licensing and disclaimers for aircraft models

2009-01-24 Thread syd adams
I have to agree with the last 2 options maybe keep a select few to go with the release. It would make the first time data update more pleasant :). > For the aircraft models, there are 3 not-very-attractive choices: > > > > * Don't say the aircraft are GPL'ed. "Models are under any random > l