On Sat, 07 Feb 2009 12:46:31 +1300, James wrote in message
<498ccbd7.1030...@gogo.co.nz>:
> Tim Krajcar wrote:
> >
> > Your suggestion was to code a MP server that interfaces with
> > VATSIM; mine is to code a MP client that connects to FG running as
> > a MP server. Both are certainly workable i
On Fri, 6 Feb 2009 23:06:59 +, FGD wrote in message
<9dfda0650902061506u22068722ld9a43d1ebb574...@mail.gmail.com>:
> 2009/2/6 Arnt Karlsen
>
> > On Fri, 6 Feb 2009 20:51:45 +, FGD wrote in message
> > <9dfda0650902061251g657a7a8axe431c89adc385...@mail.gmail.com>:
>
> > > so we really a
On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 9:10 PM, Rodrigo Severo
wrote:
> Obviously me and everybody that I talked about on IRC first believed it ws
> some kind of misconfiguration but after a big debug session with cptf (I
> think this is his IRC handle) we got to the conclusion that nasal scripts
> were misbehav
2009/2/6 Roy Vegard Ovesen
> On Friday 06 February 2009 23:01:26 Vivian Meazza wrote:
> >
> > Osgconv also works, at least it does for .lwo -> .ac, but again no
> textures
> > to test.
>
> Using Blender I added a texture to one of the sides of the borgbox, and
> finally exported to *.lwo format.
On Friday 06 February 2009 23:01:26 Vivian Meazza wrote:
>
> Osgconv also works, at least it does for .lwo -> .ac, but again no textures
> to test.
Using Blender I added a texture to one of the sides of the borgbox, and
finally exported to *.lwo format. The texture did not appear in osgviewer.
L
Tim Krajcar wrote:
>
> Your suggestion was to code a MP server that interfaces with VATSIM;
> mine is to code a MP client that connects to FG running as a MP
> server. Both are certainly workable ideas and I think it would come
> down to whichever is less heavy lifting.
>
FlightGear itself does
Hi,
This is the first message of a flight sim newbie.
After hearing that MSFS was being dismantled, I looked after X-Plane and
bought it. Then I discovered that I will probably have to wait 5 weeks to
get it by mail so I discovered FlightGear and I'm trying to use it. I
couldn't believe there wa
> Where is the "proper" gear model patch, Martin? mail.flightgear.org
> is down so the archives prior to 2005 are unreachable. I'm interested
> in taking a look.
>
> I'm also wondering what is stopping you from grabbing a copy of
> JSBSim, applying the patch, and providing some data to th
2009/2/6 Arnt Karlsen
> On Fri, 6 Feb 2009 20:51:45 +, FGD wrote in message
> <9dfda0650902061251g657a7a8axe431c89adc385...@mail.gmail.com>:
> ..yeah, but who _are_ you guys, and why all this weird secrecy?
We're just a bunch of old guys who quite like making stuff in flight sims.
You ne
Curtis,
Thanks for the response.
This is in fact how a number of our clients operate. There is no
VATSIM-specific code in MSFS or XP at all. the VATSIM client "joins" a
multiplayer session hosted by the user, and then pushes other VATSIM users'
data as MP planes into the client. Similarly, the cli
On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 4:01 PM, Tim Krajcar wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> I'm sure you've all seen the news recently of Microsoft closing the ACES
> Studio and throwing doubt on the future of the Flight Simulator franchise.
>
> I'm a member of VATSIM's Board of Governors; my official position is VP of
>
2009/2/6 Vivian Meazza
> Ian,
>
>
>
> I think we are nearly there. Osg 2.8 has fixed the bug:
>
>
>
> ftp://ftp.abbeytheatre2.org.uk/fgfs/Screen-shots/hunter-lwo-tanks.jpg
>
>
>
> Here we have a .ac aircraft with 2 .lwo "droptanks" slaved to it.
>
Now THAT is funny - I'm sure I recognise those
Tim Moore wrote:
> Update of /var/cvs/SimGear-0.3/source/simgear/scene/util
> In directory baron.flightgear.org:/tmp/cvs-serv7690/simgear/scene/util
>
> Modified Files:
>StateAttributeFactory.cxx StateAttributeFactory.hxx
> Log Message:
> Turn off z buffer writes for clouds.
>
> This is
On Fri, 6 Feb 2009 20:51:45 +, FGD wrote in message
<9dfda0650902061251g657a7a8axe431c89adc385...@mail.gmail.com>:
> 2009/2/6 Martin Spott
>
> > FGD ML wrote:
> >
> > > I guess "wait and see" is realistically the best hope we can have
> > > for the foreseeable future. That's a bit of a dis
> Where is the "proper" gear model patch, Martin? mail.flightgear.org
> is down so the archives prior to 2005 are unreachable. I'm interested
> in taking a look.
>
> I'm also wondering what is stopping you from grabbing a copy of
> JSBSim, applying the patch, and providing some data to the "power
Hi there,
I'm sure you've all seen the news recently of Microsoft closing the ACES
Studio and throwing doubt on the future of the Flight Simulator franchise.
I'm a member of VATSIM's Board of Governors; my official position is VP of
Web Services but I work pretty closely with our VP of Developmen
Ian,
I think we are nearly there. Osg 2.8 has fixed the bug:
ftp://ftp.abbeytheatre2.org.uk/fgfs/Screen-shots/hunter-lwo-tanks.jpg
Here we have a .ac aircraft with 2 .lwo "droptanks" slaved to it. They drop
too! I still cannot confirm how textures are handled, or not as the case
might b
2009/2/6 Vivian Meazza
> Ian,
>
>
>
> Whoa there, it's not all doom and gloom.
>
I know, I'll live! It was just disappointment. It often passes after no more
than a day depending on size!
So far you guys have shown me you are different, and I'm certainly willing
to hang around and try to keep
Ian,
Whoa there, it's not all doom and gloom. As Csaba posted earlier there is a
bug in the .lwo handling in osg, not in fg. As he also pointed out, it's
believed to have been fixed. I'm checking that now.
What has not been pointed out is that there is a conversion utility in osg
which will
2009/2/6 Martin Spott
> FGD ML wrote:
>
> > I guess "wait and see" is realistically the best hope we can have for the
> > foreseeable future. That's a bit of a disappointment really.
>
> Well, you're asking for turn-key support of a format that's just very
> specific to _your_ job, as the tool y
Where is the "proper" gear model patch, Martin? mail.flightgear.org
is down so the archives prior to 2005 are unreachable. I'm interested
in taking a look.
I'm also wondering what is stopping you from grabbing a copy of
JSBSim, applying the patch, and providing some data to the "powers
that be"
FGD ML wrote:
> I guess "wait and see" is realistically the best hope we can have for the
> foreseeable future. That's a bit of a disappointment really.
Well, you're asking for turn-key support of a format that's just very
specific to _your_ job, as the tool you have choosen to use doesn't
prope
2009/2/6 Martin Spott
> FGD ML wrote:
>
> > [...] FOr now it
> > seems FG can only support .ac ahnd maybe 3ds, although I've not been able
> to
> > do exhaustive testing.
> >
> > Presumably there was some testing done at some stage for all claimed
> formats
> > being working as advertised when s
FGD ML wrote:
> [...] FOr now it
> seems FG can only support .ac ahnd maybe 3ds, although I've not been able to
> do exhaustive testing.
>
> Presumably there was some testing done at some stage for all claimed formats
> being working as advertised when switching over to OSG?
Certainly not all f
--- On Fri, 2/6/09, Tim Moore wrote:
> From: Tim Moore
> Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] some hopefully helpful gdb core debug output
> To: "FlightGear developers discussions"
>
> Date: Friday, February 6, 2009, 3:12 PM
> FlightGear wrote:
> > hi, I am fg-torrents from the forums. I am tryin
Csaba Halász wrote:
>On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 6:10 PM, John Wojnaroski wrote:
>
>
>>Do you mean "shaders" as in vert and frag program running on the GPU
>>that are loaded, compiled, and linked with GLSL? There is support in
>>OSG for these types of shaders, but I could not find any use of the
>>
On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 6:10 PM, John Wojnaroski wrote:
>
> Do you mean "shaders" as in vert and frag program running on the GPU
> that are loaded, compiled, and linked with GLSL? There is support in
> OSG for these types of shaders, but I could not find any use of the
> methods in the Simgear sou
Alex Buzin wrote:
>David L. Page wrote:
>
>
>>Unfortunately, Chromium doesn't support OpenGL 2.0 or higher, right now.
>>
>>
> As I know FG 1.9.0 is using shaders to render trees and clouds. May be
>this is a problem.
>Try to find FG 1.0.0 or 0.9.10, it can be at the same FTP resource as 1.
David L. Page wrote:
> Unfortunately, Chromium doesn't support OpenGL 2.0 or higher, right now.
As I know FG 1.9.0 is using shaders to render trees and clouds. May be
this is a problem.
Try to find FG 1.0.0 or 0.9.10, it can be at the same FTP resource as 1.9.1.
Alex
_
Csaba Halász wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Tim Moore wrote:
>> This is a bit like whack-a-mole, but try again with the latest CVS or git
>> version.
>>
>> When you send gdb output, it's helpful to know how you started the program
>> and any interesting
>> variable values. For instance
2009/2/6 Vivian Meazza
> Reagan wrote
>
> > Vivian Meazza wrote:
> > > Fred
> > >
> > >
> > >> Vivian,
> > >>
> > >> apparently, the challenge is to start AC3D under Vista 64
> > >>
> > >> -Fred
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> - "Vivian Meazza" a écrit :
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> Ian,
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
2009/2/6 Vivian Meazza
> Ian,
>
>
>
> Those boxes import nicely into AC3D here. How about a real challenge?
>
Well sure they do; even I can make a box that behaves itself fairly well,
for a box!
For the real challenge I think you're supposed to be able to use it FG
directly, as in without 3rd
> If this is truly the case, and if it is due to a gear modeling fidelity
> issue, then I agree. But, the kind of problem you describe would be a
> different issue. Since wind effects are only ramped in as velocity
> increases, the example you describe above should not happen with JSBSim.
>
On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Tim Moore wrote:
>
> This is a bit like whack-a-mole, but try again with the latest CVS or git
> version.
>
> When you send gdb output, it's helpful to know how you started the program
> and any interesting
> variable values. For instance, it would be helpful to k
Curt, Thanks. I haven't used the multi-screen functionality. Unfortunately,
I don't think it will work for me.
I have some special rendering needs that FG's multi-screen won't handle as I
understand it. I need to override some OpenGL calls, which Chromium allows
me to do.
Unfortunately, Chromium
On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Jon Stockill wrote:
> Vivian Meazza wrote:
>>
>> Those boxes import nicely into AC3D here. How about a real challenge?
>
> No problem getting them into blender either.
However when I tried to export textured lwo's to ac3d format in
blender, the textures were lost.
Vivian Meazza wrote:
> Ian,
>
>
>
> Those boxes import nicely into AC3D here. How about a real challenge?
No problem getting them into blender either.
Jon
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FlightGear wrote:
> hi, I am fg-torrents from the forums. I am trying to debug error in triangle
> intersect problem. Original thread here:
> http://www.flightgear.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2824
>
> I keep running into what looks like other issues causing fg to crash before
> triangle int
Reagan wrote
> Vivian Meazza wrote:
> > Fred
> >
> >
> >> Vivian,
> >>
> >> apparently, the challenge is to start AC3D under Vista 64
> >>
> >> -Fred
> >>
> >>
> >> - "Vivian Meazza" a écrit :
> >>
> >>
> >>> Ian,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Those boxes import nicely into AC3D here. How about a re
Vivian Meazza wrote:
> Fred
>
>
>> Vivian,
>>
>> apparently, the challenge is to start AC3D under Vista 64
>>
>> -Fred
>>
>>
>> - "Vivian Meazza" a écrit :
>>
>>
>>> Ian,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Those boxes import nicely into AC3D here. How about a real challenge?
>>>
>>>
>
> PS there se
On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 8:01 AM, David L. Page wrote:
>
> Michael, thanks.
>
> I am trying to run FG through a multi-display system using Chromium, which
> is an open source tool that replaces the OpenGL DLL to drive multiple
> displays without having to recompile FG.
>
> FG runs slowly with flicke
"David L. Page" wrote:
> I am trying to run FG through a multi-display system using Chromium, which
> is an open source tool that replaces the OpenGL DLL to drive multiple
> displays without having to recompile FG.
Did you know that FlightGear is capable of driving different displays
natively ?
"Jon S. Berndt" wrote:
>> From: Martin Spott [mailto:martin.sp...@mgras.net]
>> BUT, basically, I'd say this is not the point at all - these are
>> interesting theoretical approaches to the problem, but for the 'real'
>> user who's getting veered off the apron while he is simply doing a
>> proper
Michael, thanks.
I am trying to run FG through a multi-display system using Chromium, which
is an open source tool that replaces the OpenGL DLL to drive multiple
displays without having to recompile FG.
FG runs slowly with flickering and reports an error repeatedly about not
finding glUseProgram.
Fred
> Vivian,
>
> apparently, the challenge is to start AC3D under Vista 64
>
> -Fred
>
>
> - "Vivian Meazza" a écrit :
>
> > Ian,
> >
> >
> >
> > Those boxes import nicely into AC3D here. How about a real challenge?
> >
PS there seems to be a workaround - here:
http://www.inivis.com/f
Fred
>
> Vivian,
>
> apparently, the challenge is to start AC3D under Vista 64
>
> -Fred
>
>
> - "Vivian Meazza" a écrit :
>
> > Ian,
> >
> >
> >
> > Those boxes import nicely into AC3D here. How about a real challenge?
> >
> >
> >
... snip ...
Well, that might be a bridge too far, and
Vivian,
apparently, the challenge is to start AC3D under Vista 64
-Fred
- "Vivian Meazza" a écrit :
> Ian,
>
>
>
> Those boxes import nicely into AC3D here. How about a real challenge?
>
>
>
> Vivian
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: FGD ML [mailto:fg...@pomf.net]
> Se
> From: Martin Spott [mailto:martin.sp...@mgras.net]
>
> This one shows the nose wheel _velocity_ over a timespan, the other
> three diagrams are showing the slip _angle_. To draw a reasonable
> conclusion it would be interesting to see the same measurand, say the
> slip velocity for all of the in
Ian,
Those boxes import nicely into AC3D here. How about a real challenge?
Vivian
-Original Message-
From: FGD ML [mailto:fg...@pomf.net]
Sent: 06 February 2009 10:18
To: FlightGear developers discussions
Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] The use of models from other formats
"Jon S. Berndt" wrote:
> The wheel slip angle, for instance, varies wildly in JSBSim when no
> filtering or other compensation is used:
[...]
> If the forces are ramped down to zero below some threshold, the dynamics
> improve greatly:
This one shows the nose wheel _velocity_ over a timespan, th
hi, I am fg-torrents from the forums. I am trying to debug error in triangle
intersect problem. Original thread here:
http://www.flightgear.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2824
I keep running into what looks like other issues causing fg to crash before
triangle intersect occurs. I updated all
2009/2/6 Arnt Karlsen
> On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 11:07:45 +, FGD wrote in message
> <9dfda0650902050307n513838b7x6f06bca893b2b...@mail.gmail.com>:
>
> > 2009/2/5 Jon Stockill
> >
> > > Tim Moore wrote:
> > >
> > > > I don't know what to say about AC3D, but Blender has such a large
> > > community
Anders Gidenstam wrote:
> On Fri, February 6, 2009 5:39 am, syd adams wrote:
>> Hello ,
>> Ok, I have everything in the data folder converted to /level-lbs.
>> (The Concorde was a bit of a nightmare) ... :)
>> If someone could commit the patch , I'm ready to commit the data ...
>
> I can upd
On Fri, February 6, 2009 5:39 am, syd adams wrote:
> Hello ,
> Ok, I have everything in the data folder converted to /level-lbs.
> (The Concorde was a bit of a nightmare) ... :)
> If someone could commit the patch , I'm ready to commit the data ...
I can update JSBSim.cxx in JSBSim/CVS tonight
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