Re: [Flightgear-devel] Heads up: scenery download / built-in terrasync

2011-06-15 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Hi Vivian, Fred - should this work with MSVC9? Only if the required symbols are defined. It compiles and runs, but I get this error: Cannot start scenery download. Rsync scenery server is undefined. The server input in the menu item is blank, and does not accept any input Please pull

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Heads up: scenery download / built-in terrasync

2011-06-15 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Please pull latest SimGear And Flightgear too -Fred -- Frédéric Bouvier http://www.youtube.com/user/fgfred64 Videos -- EditLive Enterprise is the world's most technically advanced content authoring tool.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Heads up: scenery download / built-in terrasync

2011-06-15 Thread Vivian Meazza
Fred wrote Fred wrote Please pull latest SimGear And Flightgear too Well, I thought I had - otherwise I wouldn't have re-compiled and run it, would I? And it does compile and run - even provides error messages. Vivian

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Heads up: scenery download / built-in terrasync

2011-06-15 Thread Martin Spott
ThorstenB wrote: The feature reuses the terrasync sources and relies on a subversion client. Either using built-in subversion (when libsvn is installed, which is recommended). Otherwise, fgfs tries calling an external utility (svn) for downloads. I'm observing one minor issue: The SVN client

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Heads up: scenery download / built-in terrasync

2011-06-15 Thread Frederic Bouvier
It was not a reproach. I just committed fixes at the time I sent those messages -Fred - Vivian Meazza a écrit : Fred wrote Fred wrote Please pull latest SimGear And Flightgear too Well, I thought I had - otherwise I wouldn't have re-compiled and run it, would I? And

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Heads up: scenery download / built-in terrasync

2011-06-15 Thread Csaba Halász
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 9:50 PM, ThorstenB bre...@gmail.com wrote: the final GUI bits for a new feature are now in fgdata - the last feature addition for the 2.4 release from my part... You can download/update scenery directly from FlightGear now (main menu: Environment = Scenery). Credit for

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Heads up: scenery download / built-in terrasync

2011-06-15 Thread Gene Buckle
On Wed, 15 Jun 2011, Csaba Halász wrote: On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 9:50 PM, ThorstenB bre...@gmail.com wrote: the final GUI bits for a new feature are now in fgdata - the last feature addition for the 2.4 release from my part... You can download/update scenery directly from FlightGear now (main

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Heads up: scenery download / built-in terrasync

2011-06-15 Thread Gene Buckle
talked to the simulator. You could run it on one machine or on a dedicated machine. Gah. Brain to fast for fingers! You could run it on the SAME machine..or on a dedicated machine... *facepalm* g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Heads up: scenery download / built-in terrasync

2011-06-15 Thread Ron Jensen
On Wednesday 15 June 2011 07:36:51 Csaba Halász wrote: On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 9:50 PM, ThorstenB bre...@gmail.com wrote: the final GUI bits for a new feature are now in fgdata - the last feature addition for the 2.4 release from my part... You can download/update scenery directly from

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Heads up: scenery download / built-in terrasync

2011-06-15 Thread Vivian Meazza
Fred -Original Message- It was not a reproach. I just committed fixes at the time I sent those messages -Fred - Vivian Meazza a écrit : Fred wrote Fred wrote Please pull latest SimGear And Flightgear too Well, I thought I had - otherwise I

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Heads up: scenery download / built-in terrasync

2011-06-15 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 08:07:21 -0600, Ron wrote in message 201106150807.21230.w...@jentronics.com: On Wednesday 15 June 2011 07:36:51 Csaba Halász wrote: On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 9:50 PM, ThorstenB bre...@gmail.com wrote: the final GUI bits for a new feature are now in fgdata - the last

[Flightgear-devel] FGx for Win/Debian/OSX now

2011-06-15 Thread HB-GRAL
Hi all On http:// gitorious.org/fgx I tagged now a FGx version 2.3.0pre as a preview which (should) work for Debian, Windows and OSX. FGx is a small FlightGear-qt-gui-launcher project. For OSX it is a bit more (because it is a app bundle with built-in OSG libs and all FlightGear binaries).

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Heads up: scenery download / built-in

2011-06-15 Thread Martin Spott
Vivian Meazza wrote: This was NOT a good time to introduce a whole new idea, just before a release. http://wiki.flightgear.org/Release_Plan#Detailed_Time_Schedule June 17th is declared as being the feature freeze day. Thus, as long as they don't commit a pile of crap to the repository, why

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Heads up: scenery download / built-in

2011-06-15 Thread Gene Buckle
On Wed, 15 Jun 2011, Martin Spott wrote: This is not consistent with Gene's, Csaba's and Ron's view. If you read carefully, then you'll realize that these three guys have primarily expressed their opinion on wether to have the GUI inside the visual system or not. Precisely. I was offering

Re: [Flightgear-devel] use-custom-scenery-data

2011-06-15 Thread Alex D-HUND
Ahoy, you'll find the verified .parking.xml files for the five said airports here: http://fgfs.beggabaur.de/daten/KHAF.groundnet.xml http://fgfs.beggabaur.de/daten/KHWD.groundnet.xml http://fgfs.beggabaur.de/daten/KOAK.groundnet.xml http://fgfs.beggabaur.de/daten/KSFO.groundnet.xml

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Heads up: scenery download / built-in

2011-06-15 Thread Csaba Halász
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 7:35 PM, Martin Spott martin.sp...@mgras.net wrote: Vivian Meazza wrote: [...] And I can't see any real advantage over Fred's implementation in FGRun, which I have used for years. Some people _do_ see a real advantage. This is more or less consistent with Gene's,

[Flightgear-devel] FlightGear Manager...

2011-06-15 Thread Gene Buckle
In thinking about it a bit and being reminded of the existing HLA interface that FlightGear has, I'm leaning toward proposing something built with Python and the PyQT4 GUI library. Both components are cross-platform and there is a Python binding for the CERTI HLA library (PyHLA). The idea

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Heads up: scenery download / built-in

2011-06-15 Thread Martin Spott
Csaba Halász wrote: For example, if you have 2 separate scenery consumers it would make sense if they both sent requests to the same terrasync instance. If both included their own terrasync copy, who knows what confusion might result (double download, svn lock, etc.). Nobody forces you to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Heads up: scenery download / built-in

2011-06-15 Thread Martin Spott
Csaba Halász wrote: Finally, there could be other programs that need scenery data, would you embed terrasync in each one? I view this as bad design. By having a closer look at Thorsten's patches you'd realize that his primary work was to turn the standalone program with hard-coded host- and

Re: [Flightgear-devel] use-custom-scenery-data

2011-06-15 Thread Martin Spott
Hi Alex, Alex B. wrote: Durk wrote[1]: [...]and the files that are still called parking are the ones that I still need to rename / improve / verify. There are still files called parking in the base package. Indeed. FlightGear, as far as I understand, should be capable of reading both formats

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Heads up: scenery download / built-in

2011-06-15 Thread Csaba Halász
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 10:57 PM, Martin Spott martin.sp...@mgras.net wrote: Csaba Halász wrote: Finally, there could be other programs that need scenery data, would you embed terrasync in each one? I view this as bad design. By having a closer look at Thorsten's patches you'd realize that

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Heads up: scenery download / built-in

2011-06-15 Thread Vivian Meazza
Martin Spott wrote -Original Message- From: [mailto:martin.sp...@mgras.net] Sent: 15 June 2011 18:36 To: flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Heads up: scenery download / built-in Vivian Meazza wrote: This was NOT a good time to introduce a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Heads up: scenery download / built-in

2011-06-15 Thread Gene Buckle
On Wed, 15 Jun 2011, Vivian Meazza wrote: This is indeed more or less consistent with those opinions. Csaba says: For example, all the GUI stuff should be thrown out and left to a launcher/control console application. Gene says: All the functionality in the GUI could be provided in a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Heads up: scenery download / built-in

2011-06-15 Thread Vivian Meazza
Gene On Wed, 15 Jun 2011, Vivian Meazza wrote: This is indeed more or less consistent with those opinions. Csaba says: For example, all the GUI stuff should be thrown out and left to a launcher/control console application. Gene says: All the functionality in the GUI could be

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Heads up: scenery download / built-in

2011-06-15 Thread Martin Spott
Csaba Halász wrote: On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 10:57 PM, Martin Spott martin.sp...@mgras.net wrote: Csaba Halász wrote: Finally, there could be other programs that need scenery data, would you embed terrasync in each one? I view this as bad design. By having a closer look at Thorsten's patches

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Heads up: scenery download / built-in

2011-06-15 Thread Gene Buckle
On Wed, 15 Jun 2011, Vivian Meazza wrote: The one wrench in the works is aircraft (and their systems) that add entries to the GUI menu items... If you can generate a better way, or even an alternate way - I'll look at it. Until then you're stuck with it. I have the option of being able to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Heads up: scenery download / built-in

2011-06-15 Thread ThorstenB
On 15.06.2011 22:57, Martin Spott wrote: By having a closer look at Thorsten's patches you'd realize that his primary work was to turn the standalone program with hard-coded host- and pathnames into a neatly configurable library. The interface between this lib and FlightGear is pretty slim,

[Flightgear-devel] Dual-licensing question

2011-06-15 Thread Ryan M
Stupid question about dual-licensing: Can I dual-license an aircraft under both GPL2 and CC-BY (no -SA or -NC), and still have it placed into fgdata? -- EditLive Enterprise is the world's most technically advanced

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Heads up: scenery download / built-in

2011-06-15 Thread syd adams
Interesting ideas , i personally like the fact that terrasync can be enabled from the menu since i always run it from a separate terminal anyway but did i hear the words 'add it to a launcher ??? 'shudder' ok , iv'e been a linux user too long ;)

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Heads up: scenery download / built-in

2011-06-15 Thread Gene Buckle
On Thu, 16 Jun 2011, ThorstenB wrote: absolutely unable to motivate - or at least keep people motivated on working on our project. That's a major issue we have. Everyone who spends time is welcomed by negative comments - and surprisingly many leave. And I'm sorry to say, after reading emails

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Dual-licensing question

2011-06-15 Thread Michael Sgier
As far as I know only the stronger matters. So it simply doesn't matter if you include another licence as the GPL always wins. As useless as copyright etc. --- On Thu, 6/16/11, Ryan M tpbspamm...@gmail.com wrote: From: Ryan M tpbspamm...@gmail.com Subject: [Flightgear-devel] Dual-licensing