Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fgpanel and ubuntu 11.10 build linking failed on libz, solved.

2011-10-27 Thread Tuomas Kuosmanen
On 24 October 2011 14:08, James Turner wrote: > This is strange - libz should be part of 'SIMGEAR_CORE_LIBRARY_DEPENDENCIES' > - we don't want to use SIMGEAR_LIBRARIES in fgpanel, since that makes fgpanel > depend on OpenSceneGraph, which it should not. > > Also, there is something configuration

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgfs hangs while loading scenery

2011-10-27 Thread Michael Sgier
In my git when looking at airport objects they're loaded but unloaded when looking elsewhere!- So there's always a huge lag when looking back on the airport and you can see the objects being loaded again one after the other. This is very annoying, if someone knows thanks for fixing otherways I'l

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata: Important note

2011-10-27 Thread Torsten Dreyer
Am 27.10.2011 16:06, schrieb Melchior FRANZ: a leader is someone who*leads*. "Leadership by not leading" (and being proud of it) isn't a leadership style in my book. There are many kinds of leadership: authoritative, cooperative, relaxed, [..] The trick is to pick the best for the current s

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata: Important note

2011-10-27 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Jari Häkkinen -- Thursday 27 October 2011: > Didn't Franz Melchior loose some interest in fg due to a > "freedom" clash. I didn't lose interest in fg -- I only lost interest in developing for FlightGear after the project "leader" let one developer push the project in a very bad direction, and f

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata: Important note

2011-10-27 Thread Jari Häkkinen
On 2011-10-27 14.29, Curtis Olson wrote: > On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 7:09 AM, James Turner wrote: > >> >> On 27 Oct 2011, at 12:58, Jari Häkkinen wrote: >> >>> Sorry for the rant-like appearance of this message. >> >> No need to apologise, I'd say it's 100% accurate - including the lack of a >> singl

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata: Important note

2011-10-27 Thread Curtis Olson
On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 7:09 AM, James Turner wrote: > > On 27 Oct 2011, at 12:58, Jari Häkkinen wrote: > > > Sorry for the rant-like appearance of this message. > > No need to apologise, I'd say it's 100% accurate - including the lack of a > single leader, the fact that project does 'okay' withou

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata: Important note

2011-10-27 Thread James Turner
On 27 Oct 2011, at 10:35, Heiko Schulz wrote: >> The procedure is to ask :) > > Aha, really?- in the 5-6 years I'm contributing to FlightGear-Project I did > this twice. I never got an answer. And until now I can only guess what was > the reasons for. Problem is, as you already realised - *I*

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata: Important note

2011-10-27 Thread James Turner
On 27 Oct 2011, at 12:58, Jari Häkkinen wrote: > Sorry for the rant-like appearance of this message. No need to apologise, I'd say it's 100% accurate - including the lack of a single leader, the fact that project does 'okay' without very tight central leadership, mostly, and the attendant resp

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata: Important note

2011-10-27 Thread Jari Häkkinen
On 2011-10-27 11.35, Heiko Schulz wrote: > And who makes sure and decides that those people really keeps to all those > rules? The project lead (or leader) should make decisions and of course be well in tune with the lead developers, developers, and with the fg community. As a bystander it is d

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata: Important note

2011-10-27 Thread Heiko Schulz
> Hope so ;-) > > With the current setup you can for example commit (and accept merge > requests) for your EC130:https://gitorious.org/flightgear-aircraft/ec130 > > But I want to give commit rights to my wife to my repo, without asking > you, can I do that ? Why not ? What gives "the team" the righ

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata: Important note

2011-10-27 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 27.10.11 10:24, schrieb James Turner: > 'we' (the infamous FlightGear we) should probably write a wiki page of > aircraft-contributor-etiquette, so we have grounds to revoke people's access > if they break the rules. Though just about the only rules I'm aware of : > > keep it GPL

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata: Important note

2011-10-27 Thread Gijs de Rooy
Hi Gary, > The #1 reason I haven't added my projects (MD-81, Grumman Goose, > Edgley Optica, Velocity XL RG) to the repository is that I have no > ability to perform my own commits. Which is exactly one of the things that we're working on with the FGData split:http://wiki.flightgear.org/FlightG

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata: Important note

2011-10-27 Thread Jari Häkkinen
On 2011-10-27 10.24, James Turner wrote: > Actually, that's not quite accurate, but, the procedure is to ask, > *having demonstrated yourself to be a sane and reasonable person > who's likely to stick around longer than four weeks*. I'm a bit more > liberal in this regard, but essentially anyone wh

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata: Important note

2011-10-27 Thread James Turner
On 27 Oct 2011, at 01:28, Gary Neely wrote: > The #1 reason I haven't added my projects (MD-81, Grumman Goose, > Edgley Optica, Velocity XL RG) to the repository is that I have no > ability to perform my own commits. Possibly I haven't earned the right > and I can understand that. But I would lik