[Flightgear-devel] Rendering a different camera view to texture

2012-02-24 Thread Merlion Aerosuperb
Hello, Hooray and I are working on a hard coded instrument which is used to view a different camera view, for example we create a view called 'Tail Camera View' and view it in an instrument. This instrument is present in modern airliners like the Airbus A380 and Boeing 787-8. We've divided this in

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Looking at a nice project from outside

2012-02-24 Thread Alexis Bory
Le 23/02/2012 23:21, Martin Spott a écrit : > when I > can spend all the time on so many other enjoyable activities. > > Have fun, > Martin. Martin, I quote only this one, as I do know what can be felt in such circumstances, and you're right, the most important: save time to enjoy life.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Looking at a nice project from outside

2012-02-24 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 24.02.12 21:44, schrieb Christian Schmitt: > flightg...@sablonier.ch wrote: > >> [...] I really wish we >> could build some kind of temporary "Scenery Team" and discuss ideas. >> My proposal is to meet at IRC on day the next weeks to start >> organizing, or to open a temporary group or list. (So

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Looking at a nice project from outside

2012-02-24 Thread Christian Schmitt
flightg...@sablonier.ch wrote: > [...] I really wish we > could build some kind of temporary "Scenery Team" and discuss ideas. > My proposal is to meet at IRC on day the next weeks to start > organizing, or to open a temporary group or list. (Sorry, i do not > like the forum for such). A "scenery

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re : Looking at a nice project from outside

2012-02-24 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 24.02.12 16:25, schrieb Olivier: > Hopefully, our form-based PHP scripts will hopefully avoid quite a lot of > mistakes before uploading. However, I really think - I'm going to do it now, > that this contribute.php page is not widely known enough. Goind to post it > again on the newsletter and o

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Sanitizing materials.xml

2012-02-24 Thread Stuart Buchanan
On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 8:00 AM, Thorsten Renk wrote: > Not as such, but if the whole file structure gets redone, might we at this > point consider making regional textures by xml conditionals easy in the > new file structure? > > See here for the concept: > http://www.flightgear.org/forums/viewto

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re : Re : Looking at a nice project from outside

2012-02-24 Thread Stuart Buchanan
Hi Martin, As Gijs and Thorsten Renk have mentioned, one issue is the lack of a new world scenery build. At present, scenery developers have to build and distribute their scenery creations themselves, and without any information on how close we are to a new world scenery to be distributed via Ter

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re : Re : Looking at a nice project from outside

2012-02-24 Thread Jacob Burbach
Though I myself have an independent scenery project, I whole heartedly support the global scenery project. Without it, and all your hard work on it over the years, flightgear scenery would be a mere shadow of what it is today. I hope then, after a break and some rest, that you will regain your pass

[Flightgear-devel] RE : Looking at a nice project from outside

2012-02-24 Thread Frederic Bouvier
I just don't understand why these submissions are not just refused with a baked reply. You all are burning yourself and then will blame the community as a whole in anger.  Please enforce the rules ! Regards, -Fred Gijs de Rooy a écrit :  > Oliver wrote: > Goind to post it again on the newsle

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Looking at a nice project from outside

2012-02-24 Thread thorsten . i . renk
> Basically I see two different approaches in FlightGear Scenery world > (aside from a few minor blends): > 1.) Focus all ressources on one common World Scenery. > 2.) Build pools of individual (and sometimes even contradicting) > scenarios - also known as the M$FS way. > > It's obvious that 1.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Looking at a nice project from outside

2012-02-24 Thread Julien Nguyen
Hi Martin, I sent you yesterday some new scenery models to add and I haven't paid attention to the emails on fg mailing list... For one year I'm working as a scenery modeler, I didn't know all the problems you met, and I'm deeply sorry for being so ignorant. As a FG user, I really support the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Looking at a nice project from outside

2012-02-24 Thread Julien Nguyen
Hi Martin, I sent you yesterday some new scenery models to add and I haven't paid attention to the emails on fg mailing list... For one year I'm working as a scenery modeler, I didn't know all the problems you met, and I'm deeply sorry for being so ignorant. As a FG user, I really support the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re : Re : Looking at a nice project from outside

2012-02-24 Thread Gijs de Rooy
> Oliver wrote: > Goind to post it again on the newsletter and on the forums. Made it a "Forum announcement", so it shows up on top :) Anyway, as RTFM (Read The FlightGear Manual) is clearly not the strongest part of our community, I doubt it will help much. I've got exactly the same problem wi

[Flightgear-devel] Re : Re : Looking at a nice project from outside

2012-02-24 Thread Olivier
De : Olivier À : FlightGear developers discussions Envoyé le : Vendredi 24 février 2012 16h25 Objet : [Flightgear-devel] Re : Looking at a nice project from outside >Hopefully, our form-based PHP scripts will hopefully avoid quite a lot of >mistakes before

[Flightgear-devel] Re : Looking at a nice project from outside

2012-02-24 Thread Olivier
De : Martin Spott >I didn't track the number of hours, but, believe me, it kept me busy - >and just for the stupid reason because people neither bothered reading >our "Contribute" recommendations nor considered my advice. Hopefully, our form-based PHP scripts

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Looking at a nice project from outside

2012-02-24 Thread Martin Spott
Gijs de Rooy wrote: > To give one recent example that applies to most of these reasons: LOWI. It > has an updated airport layout, custom landclassing > and is under heavy development. The author told me that he'll put all of it > in the database once it is finished. Just for the record, that's

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Looking at a nice project from outside

2012-02-24 Thread Gijs de Rooy
Hi all, and especially Martin, first of all let me say that I completely respect your decision. I'm sure, knowing you're way of decision making, that you've been thinking it over for a while. Without trying to change your opinion, I do like to give you my view on the scenery issue. You

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Looking at a nice project from outside

2012-02-24 Thread kreuzritter2000
Am Freitag, den 24.02.2012, 09:41 + schrieb Martin Spott: > >From my perspective the really relevant paragraph in my posting is this > one: > Basically I see two different approaches in FlightGear Scenery world > (aside from a few minor blends): > 1.) Focus all ressources on one common World S

[Flightgear-devel] Re : Looking at a nice project from outside

2012-02-24 Thread Olivier
Hi Yves, De : "flightg...@sablonier.ch" >I really wish we could build some kind of temporary "Scenery Team" and discuss >ideas. My proposal is to meet at IRC on day the next weeks to start >organizing, or to open a temporary group or list. (Sorry, i do not li

Re: [Flightgear-devel] New styled FGFS--Manual

2012-02-24 Thread Martin Spott
Jörg Emmerich wrote: > Did you notice that most products you buy today, do not have a real > "User-Manual" any more - but tell you an Internet-Address to look it up? Yup, that's really bad style and I still haven't given up the hope that FlightGear is capable of doing better. Who knows Gu

[Flightgear-devel] Re : Looking at a nice project from outside

2012-02-24 Thread Olivier
Hi all, Martin, > On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 10:21 PM, Martin Spott wrote: > > In the mid of the last decade I've been one of those who realized that > developing a long-term strategy for the various FlightGear Scenery > ressources would be a Really Good Idea. In

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Looking at a nice project from outside

2012-02-24 Thread flightgear
I really hope that we can start a discussion now about the state of the scenery and making (or following) some plans keeping the basic ideas up for the moment, also looking to planned improvements. I am following Martins ideas since a long time. I always tried to help here and there but I

[Flightgear-devel] New styled FGFS--Manual

2012-02-24 Thread Jörg Emmerich
I was surprised that this shift in Paradigms has such a big handicap to be considered for future developments. And if you believe you are "old-fashioned", how about a 70 year old guy that started in Computer Development in 1970, and whose big boss predicted: "I think there is a world market for may

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Looking at a nice project from outside

2012-02-24 Thread Martin Spott
Pedro Morgan wrote: > On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 10:21 PM, Martin Spott wrote: > >> In the mid of the last decade I've been one of those who realized that >> developing a long-term strategy for the various FlightGear Scenery >> ressources would be a Really Good Idea. Meanwhile there's been >> progre

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Looking at a nice project from outside

2012-02-24 Thread Martin Spott
>From my perspective the really relevant paragraph in my posting is this one: Martin Spott wrote: > The idea I had in mind, the motivation which drove me into dedicating > so many hours was to focus as many of the available ressources as > possible on building the best _common_ Scenery we could m

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Promoting the release

2012-02-24 Thread Martin Spott
Pedro Morgan wrote: > Can I have the links for this site.. # ~> lynx -dump http:/[abc] | awk '[xyz]' Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- --

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Looking at a nice project from outside

2012-02-24 Thread Erik Hofman
On Thu, 2012-02-23 at 22:21 +, Martin Spott wrote: > Those who relied on me to continue what I've done so far I kindly ask > to bear with me, because I reached the point where I have to apply a > measure of self protection I think we've all reached that point at some time and it's good

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Sanitizing materials.xml

2012-02-24 Thread Torsten Dreyer
Am 24.02.2012 01:17, schrieb St > The end result is that I'd like to do the following: > - Create a new Materials directory under fgdata > - Move materials-dds.xml and materials.xml into it > - Create a new Materials/materials-base.xml file containing material > definitions common > to both materia

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Sanitizing materials.xml

2012-02-24 Thread thorsten . i . renk
> The end result is that I'd like to do the following: > - Create a new Materials directory under fgdata > - Move materials-dds.xml and materials.xml into it > - Create a new Materials/materials-base.xml file containing material > definitions common > to both materials files. > - Create a number of