Re: [Flightgear-devel] Calculating free stick position and forces

2011-04-03 Thread Leonardo Fabian Grodek
On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 12:38 AM, Jon S. Berndt wrote: > Actually, Alan is correct, as Ron also mentioned in the JSBSim-devel list, > where this topic is cross-posted. I think it is quite possible that we can > already do this using definitions in the section > of an aircraft spec. file. There is

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Calculating free stick position and forces

2011-03-31 Thread Jon S. Berndt
> > Perhaps downwash and hinge force calculations should be the subject of a > > section in the xml aerodynamics file so that they can be tailored on a > > per-aircraft basis. > > > > Alan > > the xml files should be used to load the respective aircraft data for aero > coefficients, tail geometr

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Calculating free stick position and forces

2011-03-31 Thread Alan Teeder
>> Hard coding this would be not a good idea - much better to add code to >> JSBsim so that it can be built up with parameters from the XML file in >> the >> same way as the main body forces (Lift, Drag etc). >> > Agree, that's the idea, the calcs are in JSBSim the data is loaded in from > xml f

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Calculating free stick position and forces

2011-03-31 Thread Gene Buckle
On Thu, 31 Mar 2011, cas...@mminternet.com wrote: > > He, he, just to be a little pedantic.. > > it's not my simplification and only about 20 pages are devoted to the > subsonic flight region, the transonic takes about 1 page and admits a lack > of understanding in this area and section C is supe

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Calculating free stick position and forces

2011-03-31 Thread castle
> > -- > From: > Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 4:03 PM >> >> please cite a source rather than a general statement. > > Well you could try section 4.4 of the Datcom (not digital datcom). This > text > is available at > http://openae.org/stability-and

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Calculating free stick position and forces

2011-03-31 Thread Alan Teeder
-- From: Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 4:03 PM > > please cite a source rather than a general statement. Well you could try section 4.4 of the Datcom (not digital datcom). This text is available at http://openae.org/stability-and-control-resourc

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Calculating free stick position and forces

2011-03-31 Thread castle
>> >> -- >> From: >> Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 3:57 PM >> To: "FlightGear developers discussions" >> >> Subject: [Flightgear-devel] Calculating free stick position and forces >&g

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Calculating free stick position and forces

2011-03-31 Thread castle
> > -- > From: > Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 3:57 PM > To: "FlightGear developers discussions" > > Subject: [Flightgear-devel] Calculating free stick position and forces > >> Ok, here are a couple of

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Calculating free stick position and forces

2011-03-31 Thread Ron Jensen
On Thursday 31 March 2011 02:13:58 Alan Teeder wrote: > -- > From: > Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 3:57 PM > To: "FlightGear developers discussions" > > Subject: [Flightgear-devel] Calculating free stick position and

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Calculating free stick position and forces

2011-03-31 Thread Alan Teeder
-- From: Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 3:57 PM To: "FlightGear developers discussions" Subject: [Flightgear-devel] Calculating free stick position and forces > Ok, here are a couple of thoughts on improving the elevator model

[Flightgear-devel] Calculating free stick position and forces

2011-03-30 Thread castle
Ok, here are a couple of thoughts on improving the elevator model; as always comments and suggestions are welcome, flames will be ignored @ line 220 or so of FGAerodynamics add: alphat = alpha + tailincidence - downwash; // alpha fro the tail for now we'll assume no flying tails just a norma