Re: [Flightgear-devel] Harrier checkin

2006-06-05 Thread Lee Elliott
On Sunday 04 June 2006 08:40, Georg Vollnhals wrote: > Josh Babcock schrieb: > > AJ MacLeod wrote: > >> My only request at this stage is an easy one - that the > >> aircraft starts off with the parking brake engaged. There > >> are few things more irritating than having the fg screen > >> fade in

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Harrier checkin

2006-06-05 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* dene maxwell -- Monday 05 June 2006 22:32: > I hace always liked this idea, I know that "Start-Up" positions can be > specified in TaxiDraw and [...] > It would be an added touch of realisism IMHO I use ac_state.nas[1], which puts the aircraft where you left it last time. This is even more real

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Harrier checkin

2006-06-05 Thread dene maxwell
t;Reply-To: FlightGear developers discussions > >To: FlightGear developers discussions > >Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Harrier checkin >Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2006 20:25:03 +0200 > >Am Montag, den 05.06.2006, 14:56 +0100 schrieb AJ MacLeod: > > On Monday 05 June 2006 13:43, Jos

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Harrier checkin

2006-06-05 Thread Josh Babcock
Georg Vollnhals wrote: > > Hi Josh, > although I can't understand why someone would like to start a flightsim > session with programmed trouble (=aircraft not in a stable position) I > accept the argument that the status of the aircraft should be set up > separately, ie in the preferences file

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Harrier checkin

2006-06-05 Thread dene maxwell
True...point taken :-D ene From: Josh Babcock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: FlightGear developers discussions To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Harrier checkin Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2006 08:51:00 -0400 dene maxwell wrote: > My penny's worth..

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Harrier checkin

2006-06-05 Thread Josh Babcock
AJ MacLeod wrote: > I'm not claiming having the parking brake set at this point is the height of > realism, just that it's slightly less bad than the alternative. I've still > not heard a convincing reason why FG starting up with out of control runaway > aircraft is a good idea... I don't hav

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Harrier checkin

2006-06-05 Thread Detlef Faber
Am Montag, den 05.06.2006, 14:56 +0100 schrieb AJ MacLeod: > On Monday 05 June 2006 13:43, Josh Babcock wrote: > > How many pilots still have their parking brakes set at the runway > > threshold? > > These same pilots will (hopefully :-) have been in control of the plane for a > good while leadin

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Harrier checkin

2006-06-05 Thread Georg Vollnhals
Josh Babcock schrieb: > dene maxwell wrote: >> My penny's worth...I agree... no experience IRL ...it's one of the first >> things I do in FG is engage the P-brake while I set up the radio/AP ...I'm >> working through my hanger to set this as default for all AC. >> :-D ene >> > > My point though,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Harrier checkin

2006-06-05 Thread AJ MacLeod
On Monday 05 June 2006 13:43, Josh Babcock wrote: > How many pilots still have their parking brakes set at the runway > threshold? These same pilots will (hopefully :-) have been in control of the plane for a good while leading up to this point. In FG, we're suddenly dumped there, with the plane

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Harrier checkin

2006-06-05 Thread Josh Babcock
dene maxwell wrote: > My penny's worth...I agree... no experience IRL ...it's one of the first > things I do in FG is engage the P-brake while I set up the radio/AP ...I'm > working through my hanger to set this as default for all AC. > :-D ene > My point though, is that you only have to change

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Harrier checkin

2006-06-05 Thread Josh Babcock
AJ MacLeod wrote: > On Sunday 04 June 2006 04:24, Josh Babcock wrote: > >>Hmm, rather than force everyone to start with the P-brake engaged, why >>don't you just set it in your preferences.xml file? This is the sort of >>thing that really has nothing to to with the aircraft, and everything to >>do

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Harrier checkin

2006-06-05 Thread AJ MacLeod
On Monday 05 June 2006 10:31, Martin Spott wrote: > location using chocks. As you are very much by yourself because > FlightGear doesn't provide a ground crew that could remove the chocks > for you I think the parking brake is a pretty good choice for a > work-alike. Oh good, someone else agrees w

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Harrier checkin

2006-06-05 Thread dene maxwell
;Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED],FlightGear developers discussions > >To: flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Harrier checkin >Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 09:31:16 + (UTC) > >AJ MacLeod wrote: > > > I completely fail to see how anyone benefits from

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Harrier checkin

2006-06-05 Thread Martin Spott
AJ MacLeod wrote: > I completely fail to see how anyone benefits from a mad scramble for control > of the aircraft on FG startup... particularly since on the carrier it's often > over the side by then. This aircraft has a parking brake IRL unless I'm very > much mistaken - surely it's sensible

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Harrier checkin

2006-06-05 Thread AJ MacLeod
On Sunday 04 June 2006 04:24, Josh Babcock wrote: > Hmm, rather than force everyone to start with the P-brake engaged, why > don't you just set it in your preferences.xml file? This is the sort of > thing that really has nothing to to with the aircraft, and everything to > do with the procedures th

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Harrier checkin

2006-06-04 Thread Josh Babcock
Georg Vollnhals wrote: > The newer versions of the Harrier have an artificial stability system > which makes it a lot more easier to fly the aircraft in low speed > procedures - may be the force is with us and we'll see something like > that in FG some day :-) Hmm, Nasal IIRC only runs once pe

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Harrier checkin

2006-06-04 Thread Georg Vollnhals
Josh Babcock schrieb: > AJ MacLeod wrote: > >> My only request at this stage is an easy one - that the aircraft starts off >> with the parking brake engaged. There are few things more irritating than >> having the fg screen fade in only to find yourself pitching off the carrier >> deck or into

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Harrier checkin

2006-06-03 Thread Josh Babcock
AJ MacLeod wrote: > My only request at this stage is an easy one - that the aircraft starts off > with the parking brake engaged. There are few things more irritating than > having the fg screen fade in only to find yourself pitching off the carrier > deck or into the nearest windsock! Hmm,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Harrier checkin

2006-05-25 Thread shavlir
> On Thursday 25 May 2006 12:59, AJ MacLeod wrote: > > I think the gear needs a good bit more damping - I've used damp=4 on all > the gear which is very much better, although possibly a wee bit much? > Perhaps the spring rates of the u/c need upped a tiny bit too, I've not > played with that yet.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Harrier checkin

2006-05-25 Thread AJ MacLeod
On Thursday 25 May 2006 12:59, AJ MacLeod wrote: > My only request at this stage is an easy one - that the aircraft starts off > with the parking brake engaged. There are few things more irritating than > having the fg screen fade in only to find yourself pitching off the carrier > deck or into th

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Harrier checkin

2006-05-25 Thread AJ MacLeod
On Thursday 25 May 2006 12:30, Georg Vollnhals wrote: > "To cater for jet-borne flight, where the aerodynamic forces on the conventional surfaces are reduced or eliminated, a system of air jet reaction control valves are utilised. These are placed in the extreme nose, tail and at the wingtips

Re: [Flightgear-devel] harrier checkin

2006-05-25 Thread Georg Vollnhals
Georg Vollnhals schrieb: Hi Steve Havlir, .. So, with this actual flight model you have to think a lot more "in advance" compared to a helicopter (where you also have to think in advance) due to the big! delay to power-setting and steering commands. Actually, I do not have any detailled in

Re: [Flightgear-devel] harrier checkin

2006-05-25 Thread Georg Vollnhals
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Still a lot to do, but I figure people would at least like to have a 3d model to go with the flight model that already exists (I didn't touch the flight model). Hi Steve Havlir, I never would have tried the Harrier without any reference points to the horizont

RE: [Flightgear-devel] harrier checkin

2006-05-25 Thread Vivian Meazza
shavlir > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flightgear- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of @uiuc.edu > Sent: 25 May 2006 04:31 > To: flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: [Flightgear-devel] harrier checkin > > Since those of you who h

[Flightgear-devel] harrier checkin

2006-05-24 Thread shavlir
Since those of you who have checkin access never seem to be around when i am online, I guess the devel list will have to do. I am at a good checkpoint with the harrier model. Since there are a million variants of the harrier, I picked the version to do a 3d model that was very similar to what