Re: [Flightgear-devel] Improved usability

2013-04-13 Thread syd adams
Thanks .I've redone most of the b1900d flight deck and have a question about the knob animation.Can the object rotation be skipped in some cases? Im still looking through the code for answers and probably didn't see it.Keep up the good work . Syd On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 7:42 AM, James Turner wro

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Improved usability

2013-04-13 Thread James Turner
On 13 Apr 2013, at 13:49, James Turner wrote: > I'll figure out a proper fix now. The easy fix is /not/ to group multiple > object-names together, but it's at the expense of more intermediate notes in > the scene, alas. I've pushed a fix now - it's correct but slightly suboptimal in some case

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Improved usability

2013-04-13 Thread James Turner
On 13 Apr 2013, at 01:25, syd adams wrote: > If this is any help , it appears that one of the objects disappears if there > are multiple objects in the pick animation. > Will continue testing . I've figured it out; the A4-F is using an idiom like this: A

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Improved usability

2013-04-12 Thread syd adams
If this is any help , it appears that one of the objects disappears if there are multiple objects in the pick animation. Will continue testing . Syd On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 3:17 PM, James Turner wrote: > > > On 12 Apr 2013, at 20:11, Stuart Buchanan wrote: > > > On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 6:01 PM

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Improved usability

2013-04-12 Thread James Turner
On 12 Apr 2013, at 20:11, Stuart Buchanan wrote: > On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 6:01 PM, James Turner wrote: >> On 12 Apr 2013, at 16:56, James Turner wrote: >>> No, handling should be the same as before, but I didn't test the >>> b1900d - will take a look and ensure I haven't done anything silly

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Improved usability

2013-04-12 Thread Stuart Buchanan
On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 6:01 PM, James Turner wrote: > On 12 Apr 2013, at 16:56, James Turner wrote: >> No, handling should be the same as before, but I didn't test the >> b1900d - will take a look and ensure I haven't done anything silly. >> >> The change I have made (which did need some re-wor

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Improved usability

2013-04-12 Thread James Turner
On 12 Apr 2013, at 16:56, James Turner wrote: > No, handling should be the same as before, but I didn't test the > b1900d - will take a look and ensure I haven't done anything silly. > > The change I have made (which did need some re-work, and may have caused the > bug you're seeing) is *vis

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Improved usability

2013-04-12 Thread James Turner
On 12 Apr 2013, at 16:18, syd adams wrote: > too tired to do proper testing right now but I'll try again later .Just > noticed that a lot of switches have vanished in the b1900d and the terminal > reports that the objects cant be found for animation , but that could be me > not doing this wro

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Improved usability

2013-04-12 Thread syd adams
too tired to do proper testing right now but I'll try again later .Just noticed that a lot of switches have vanished in the b1900d and the terminal reports that the objects cant be found for animation , but that could be me not doing this wrong.Do pick animations need true now ? After a good sleep

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Improved usability

2013-04-12 Thread James Turner
On 12 Apr 2013, at 15:33, syd adams wrote: > I've apparently missed something... I cant right-drag , how do i enable that > ? Knob actions work fine so I'm adding this feature > to the b1900d since I'm overhauling it anyway.I also get the same nasal error > that Stuart mentioned. > Oh , and to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Improved usability

2013-04-12 Thread syd adams
I've apparently missed something... I cant right-drag , how do i enable that ? Knob actions work fine so I'm adding this feature to the b1900d since I'm overhauling it anyway.I also get the same nasal error that Stuart mentioned. Oh , and tooltips don't appear for me .Ive got a few days off now , s

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Improved usability

2013-04-12 Thread James Turner
On 11 Apr 2013, at 23:57, Saikrishna Arcot wrote: > I haven't tried the latest Git, but just in my opinion, if using > Flightgear on a laptop, holding-down right-click to pan around can be > bit of a pain. I would personally rather have the click-move-click > method. There's three answers to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Improved usability

2013-04-12 Thread James Turner
On 11 Apr 2013, at 22:29, Stuart Buchanan wrote: > Hi James, > > This is superb work. I've just taken a flight in the c172p to try out > the new features, and I'm very impressed. Thank you! > > Though I'm a dyed-in-the-wool mouse-looker who continually switched > between cursor and mouse-loo

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Improved usability

2013-04-11 Thread Saikrishna Arcot
I haven't tried the latest Git, but just in my opinion, if using Flightgear on a laptop, holding-down right-click to pan around can be bit of a pain. I would personally rather have the click-move-click method. Then again, not that many people probably use Flightgear on a laptop, and I haven't

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Improved usability

2013-04-11 Thread Stuart Buchanan
Hi James, This is superb work. I've just taken a flight in the c172p to try out the new features, and I'm very impressed. On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 9:48 AM, James Turner wrote: > - made a 'right-drag to look' mouse mode, which I think should be on > by default (with the current behaviour

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Improved usability

2013-04-11 Thread James Turner
On 11 Apr 2013, at 10:35, syd adams wrote: > Sounds like a definite improvement! I'll try it out when i get off work.oh > ,and im a mouse flyer,i dont find a joystick appropriate for the type of > aircraft i like to fly.one day i'll invest in a yoke,pedals and maybe even a > throttle setup.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Improved usability

2013-04-11 Thread syd adams
Sounds like a definite improvement! I'll try it out when i get off work.oh ,and im a mouse flyer,i dont find a joystick appropriate for the type of aircraft i like to fly.one day i'll invest in a yoke,pedals and maybe even a throttle setup. On Apr 11, 2013 2:49 AM, "James Turner" wrote: > > Hi, >

[Flightgear-devel] Improved usability

2013-04-11 Thread James Turner
Hi, I've now pushed all the current pieces of my effort to improve our usability and learnability experience. (For those unfamiliar, usability is how well experienced users can efficiently a piece of software, learnability is how well new users can figure out *how* to use the software without