Re: [Flightgear-devel] VATSIM support?

2011-01-27 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 21:38:18 -0500, Chris wrote in message 1296095898.27791.1.camel@chrison-Aspire-5741G: On Tue, 2011-01-25 at 23:41 -0700, jac...@lfstech.com wrote: How about a show of hands? Is there enough interest and volunteers to organize a team to tackle the problem? As I said

Re: [Flightgear-devel] VATSIM support?

2011-01-26 Thread Martin Spott
Chris, I think the benefit of having sort of a VATSIM-interface or -bridge for FlightGear is pretty much unquestioned, therefore I'll leave these details out. The point is a completely different one and probably consist of just two simple parts: 1.) Like probably almost every other OpenSource

Re: [Flightgear-devel] VATSIM support?

2011-01-26 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 09:56:41 + (UTC), Martin wrote in message ihor4p$ls0k$1...@osprey.mgras.de: Chris, I think the benefit of having sort of a VATSIM-interface or -bridge for FlightGear is pretty much unquestioned, therefore I'll leave these details out. The point is a completely

Re: [Flightgear-devel] VATSIM support?

2011-01-26 Thread Chris O'Neill
On Tue, 2011-01-25 at 23:41 -0700, jac...@lfstech.com wrote: How about a show of hands? Is there enough interest and volunteers to organize a team to tackle the problem? As I said in my original post, I'm not a programmer so, unfortunately, I couldn't help in that regard. However, I'd be

Re: [Flightgear-devel] VATSIM support?

2011-01-25 Thread Chris O'Neill
[PREFACE: I'm a FG end-user who's not a programmer, nor am I an intellectual property rights attorney. My sole desire is to use FG as a realistic flight similator, as opposed to using it as a fun game. Please consider the remarks below in that context. Thanks!] On Wed, 2011-01-19 at 19:15

Re: [Flightgear-devel] VATSIM support?

2011-01-25 Thread Curtis Olson
HI Chris, Here are a couple quick comment in reply ... My sense is that there are very few people who would outright oppose a vatsim interface to flightgear. I think most people would consider this is a good thing. Here is my question/concern. If some developer gets approved by vatsim and

Re: [Flightgear-devel] VATSIM support?

2011-01-25 Thread castle
Hi, Hmmm, I would take it one step further... You write and operate an FG/VATSIM server running on a dedicated machine(s) and publish the FG open source interface and protocol. The VATSIM side and source in the server is closed and operates with an approved NDA. Anyone may join from the FG

Re: [Flightgear-devel] VATSIM support?

2011-01-25 Thread jack.w
: [Flightgear-devel] VATSIM support?From: Curtis Olson curtol...@gmail.comDate: Tue, January 25, 2011 10:26 pmTo: chrison...@yahoo.ca, FlightGear developers discussionsflightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.netHI Chris, Here are a couple quick comment in reply ... My sense is that there are very few people who

Re: [Flightgear-devel] VATSIM support?

2011-01-22 Thread Victhor
VATSIM requires any developer to sign a NDA before having access to their network, so it's not possible to make a open source client. SB747 was made before the NDA requirement, but I suppose sources can't be released due to obvious licensing issues. It seems it has been fixed so that it reports

Re: [Flightgear-devel] VATSIM support?

2011-01-22 Thread Victhor
I suppose most of the people here aren't willing to sign a NDA to code something... I wouldn't be willing to do that if I could code. I would like to have atleast native binary-only program instead of running it through wine, since there isn't any other way, but that's only me :) 2011/1/20

Re: [Flightgear-devel] VATSIM support?

2011-01-22 Thread Csaba Halász
On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 2:19 PM, Victhor victhor.fos...@gmail.com wrote: I suppose most of the people here aren't willing to sign a NDA to code something... I wouldn't be willing to do that if I could code. Not only that, but I personally don't even want to join or support an organization that

Re: [Flightgear-devel] VATSIM support?

2011-01-22 Thread Gene Buckle
On Sat, 22 Jan 2011, Csaba Halász wrote: On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 2:19 PM, Victhor victhor.fos...@gmail.com wrote: I suppose most of the people here aren't willing to sign a NDA to code something... I wouldn't be willing to do that if I could code. Not only that, but I personally don't even

Re: [Flightgear-devel] VATSIM support?

2011-01-22 Thread Curtis Olson
On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 10:50 AM, Gene Buckle wrote: I doubt it has anything to do with that Csaba. AFAIK, their primary concern is with griefers ruining the network for others. Here's the problem as I see it. Any FlightGear interface will necessarily have a closed source interface to the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] VATSIM support?

2011-01-22 Thread Martin Spott
Csaba Halász wrote: Not only that, but I personally don't even want to join or support an organization that requires NDA and plays silly corporate games instead of openly welcoming new arrivals. But that's just me. No, not just you, count me in, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly -

Re: [Flightgear-devel] VATSIM support?

2011-01-19 Thread jack.w
Looking over the wiki page and info. Is Sb747 and AVC limited to MS windows based machines? Or is there a Linux version as well? Is source available? Last email on the FG forum from reeed was dated Apr 05, 2010. John Original Message Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] VATSIM

Re: [Flightgear-devel] VATSIM support?

2011-01-19 Thread ThorstenB
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 10:41 PM, jack.w wrote: Looking over the wiki page and info. Is Sb747 and AVC limited to MS windows based machines? Or is there a Linux version as well? Is source available? Only the sources of Reed's FlightGear interface (SquawkGear) is available, but not those

[Flightgear-devel] VATSIM support?

2011-01-15 Thread jack.w
Hi, I noiced in a recent post by Gijs de Rooy on the scammers a commnet that FG now had VATSIM support. Interesting and nice.! Is this a feature in the latest git version? There have been discussions over the years on hooking into the IVAO and VATSIM communities. Was not aware that the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] VATSIM support?

2011-01-15 Thread ThorstenB
On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 4:39 PM, jack.w wrote: Is this a feature in the latest git version? There have been discussions over the years on hooking into the IVAO and VATSIM communities. Was not aware that the connection had been made. Giving a talk in March at UC Davis on using FlightGear in

Re: [Flightgear-devel] VATSIM support?

2011-01-15 Thread jack.w
Neat! :-) Thank you for the info andquick reply. Will give it a try Jack Original Message Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] VATSIM support?From: ThorstenB bre...@gmail.comDate: Sat, January 15, 2011 9:20 amTo: FlightGear developers discussionsflightgear-devel