[fluent-nhib] Re: Rethinking Fluent NHibernate

2009-01-22 Thread Tuna Toksoz
Yeap, that mail was before I talk to you :) Tuna Toksöz http://tunatoksoz.com Typos included to enhance the readers attention! On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Paul Batum wrote: > Oh yeah, the model is NOWHERE NEAR complete. There is a huge amount > missing. I am trying to sketch out each b

[fluent-nhib] Re: Rethinking Fluent NHibernate

2009-01-22 Thread Paul Batum
Oh yeah, the model is NOWHERE NEAR complete. There is a huge amount missing. I am trying to sketch out each broad area before I start filling in the detail. I'm just finishing the work on demonstrating support for multiple nhibernate versions and then I will be moving on to conventions. On Thu, Ja

[fluent-nhib] Re: Rethinking Fluent NHibernate

2009-01-21 Thread Tuna Toksoz
Hi Paul, I guess the mapping classes are not yet complete, i mean PropertyMapping doesn't have Type for the property, etc. I may be missing a point, so any pointers is highly appreciated. Tuna Toksöz http://tunatoksoz.com Typos included to enhance the readers attention! On Wed, Jan 21, 2009

[fluent-nhib] Re: Rethinking Fluent NHibernate

2009-01-21 Thread Tuna Toksoz
Ok, I will go with what you suggest and lets see what happens :) Tuna Toksöz http://tunatoksoz.com Typos included to enhance the readers attention! On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Paul Batum wrote: > Hi Tuna, > > One option is to start working with my branch. There is an integration test >

[fluent-nhib] Re: Rethinking Fluent NHibernate

2009-01-21 Thread Colin Jack
Great idea. As a DDDer I'd love to define my own semantics e.g. cascade only within the aggregate, only lazy load between aggregates, when reloading value object use constructor...whatever, but yeah being able to define this all just using a few conventions which I could override as appropriate w

[fluent-nhib] Re: Rethinking Fluent NHibernate

2009-01-20 Thread Paul Batum
Hi Tuna, One option is to start working with my branch. There is an integration test called Should_allow_music_entities_to_be_saved which passes and uses hbm. Getting it to pass using your direct NHibernate configuration approach would be a step in the right direction I think. To do so, I would su

[fluent-nhib] Re: Rethinking Fluent NHibernate

2009-01-20 Thread Tuna Toksoz
You mentioned my name, so here is the question: I have some freetime (some weeks) that I can spend on fluent nhibernate and I don't know where to start. Create a seperate branch and work there or what? I also don't really know how to test them because the story goes on SimpleValue, Property classes

[fluent-nhib] Re: Rethinking Fluent NHibernate

2009-01-19 Thread Paul Batum
gt;>>>>>>> However the fluent api is great for customising those instances where >>>>>>>> you go >>>>>>>> against the convention, so we should definetly keep it, it just needs >>>>>>>> re-engineering over a se

[fluent-nhib] Re: Rethinking Fluent NHibernate

2009-01-13 Thread Paul Batum
o >>>>>>> against the convention, so we should definetly keep it, it just needs >>>>>>> re-engineering over a semantic model rather than the xml. The question >>>>>>> is >>>>>>> how do we move the re-engineer what we've got without doing a massive >>>>>&

[fluent-nhib] Re: Rethinking Fluent NHibernate

2009-01-13 Thread Andrew Stewart
ver a semantic model rather than the xml. The question is >>>>>> how do we move the re-engineer what we've got without doing a massive >>>>>> rewrite which I think would be bad idea. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers >>>>

[fluent-nhib] Re: Rethinking Fluent NHibernate

2009-01-13 Thread James Gregory
e which I think would be bad idea. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers >>>>> >>>>> Andy >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 7:41 PM, Jeremy D. Miller < >>>>> jeremydmil...@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>

[fluent-nhib] Re: Rethinking Fluent NHibernate

2009-01-13 Thread Andrew Stewart
.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> It's definitely going to be nice to do the one-offs as something like: >>>>> >>>>> Customize(Action) >>>>> >>>>> instead of having to translate everything to the Xml >>>>> >&

[fluent-nhib] Re: Rethinking Fluent NHibernate

2009-01-13 Thread Andrew Stewart
t; instead of having to translate everything to the Xml >>>> >>>> Jeremy D. Miller >>>> The Shade Tree Developer <http://codebetter.com/blogs/jeremy.miller> >>>> jeremydmil...@yahoo.com >>>> >>>> >>>> --

[fluent-nhib] Re: Rethinking Fluent NHibernate

2009-01-12 Thread Paul Batum
ng to translate everything to the Xml >>> >>> Jeremy D. Miller >>> The Shade Tree Developer <http://codebetter.com/blogs/jeremy.miller> >>> jeremydmil...@yahoo.com >>> >>> >>> -- >>>

[fluent-nhib] Re: Rethinking Fluent NHibernate

2009-01-12 Thread Dru Sellers
>> >> Jeremy D. Miller >> The Shade Tree Developer <http://codebetter.com/blogs/jeremy.miller> >> jeremydmil...@yahoo.com >> >> >> -------------- >> *From:* Chad Myers >> *To:* fluent-nhibernate@googlegroups.com >> *Sent:* Monday, January 12, 2

[fluent-nhib] Re: Rethinking Fluent NHibernate

2009-01-12 Thread Andrew Stewart
googlegroups.com > *Sent:* Monday, January 12, 2009 1:38:45 PM > *Subject:* [fluent-nhib] Re: Rethinking Fluent NHibernate > > We're mostly there, we have the starts of it, but AutoMap was build on top > of the Fluent API which has hampered it. > > First, we need the semantic mode

[fluent-nhib] Re: Rethinking Fluent NHibernate

2009-01-12 Thread Jeremy D. Miller
rnate@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 1:38:45 PM Subject: [fluent-nhib] Re: Rethinking Fluent NHibernate We're mostly there, we have the starts of it, but AutoMap was build on top of the Fluent API which has hampered it. First, we need the semantic model. Paul Batum said he'd

[fluent-nhib] Re: Rethinking Fluent NHibernate

2009-01-12 Thread James Gregory
Jumped the gun a bit there. All sounds like a good plan for the future. Just FYI as of next week I'm (deliberately) unemployed, so I may be that champion. We'll have to kick up some discussions. On 1/12/09, James Gregory wrote: > What part of this isn't possible at the moment? Or are you talkin

[fluent-nhib] Re: Rethinking Fluent NHibernate

2009-01-12 Thread James Gregory
What part of this isn't possible at the moment? Or are you talking about making it cleaner or more intuitive? On 1/12/09, Ayende Rahien wrote: > +1 > That is what I seek > > On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 2:36 PM, Chad Myers wrote: > >> [Credit to Aaron Jensen for giving some great feedback a

[fluent-nhib] Re: Rethinking Fluent NHibernate

2009-01-12 Thread Chad Myers
We're mostly there, we have the starts of it, but AutoMap was build on top of the Fluent API which has hampered it. First, we need the semantic model. Paul Batum said he'd have this done by the end of the week ;) j/k. We've kicked around ideas, this just needs a champion to get the ball roll

[fluent-nhib] Re: Rethinking Fluent NHibernate

2009-01-12 Thread Ayende Rahien
+1 That is what I seek On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 2:36 PM, Chad Myers wrote: > [Credit to Aaron Jensen for giving some great feedback and sending me > down this thought path, and numerous others who have complained about lack > of private/protected member support and for committers/contrib