Re: [fonc] Incentives and Metrics for Infrastructure vs. Functionality

2013-01-04 Thread Ondrej Bilka
On Thu, Jan 03, 2013 at 11:33:53AM -0700, Marcus G. Daniels wrote: On 1/2/13 1:49 AM, Ondřej Bílka wrote: A better example is that you have c code where at several places is code for inserting element into sorted array and using that array. What should you do. CS course taugth us to use

Re: [fonc] Current topics

2013-01-04 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Thu, Jan 03, 2013 at 08:27:53PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote: you might want to google biological computing - you'll start finding things like this: http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/blog/2009/jul/24/bacteria-computer (title: Bacteria make computers look like pocket calculators)

Re: [fonc] Incentives and Metrics for Infrastructure vs. Functionality

2013-01-04 Thread Ondrej Bilka
On Thu, Jan 03, 2013 at 01:07:55AM +0100, Loup Vaillant-David wrote: On Tue, Jan 01, 2013 at 11:18:29PM +0100, Ondřej Bílka wrote: On Tue, Jan 01, 2013 at 09:12:07PM +0100, Loup Vaillant-David wrote: void latin1_to_utf8(std::string s); Let me guess. They do it to save cycles

Re: [fonc] Incentives and Metrics for Infrastructure vs. Functionality

2013-01-04 Thread Marcus G. Daniels
On 1/4/13 4:04 AM, Ondrej Bilka wrote: Profiling will reveal that you spend 5% time in insert and 3% time in remove. You spend two weeks optimizing your tree and memory allocator for it. The call tree, accumulating these costs in different parent contexts, when correlated to the fact that

Re: [fonc] Incentives and Metrics for Infrastructure vs. Functionality

2013-01-04 Thread Alan Moore
I have been looking at Datomic/Datalog which abstracts away the container entirely and focuses simply on entity, attribute, value + time deltas. In theory, the underlying container(s) could adjust to optimize for typical, and possibly changing, usage patterns. Worth a look and some consideration

Re: [fonc] Final STEP progress report?

2013-01-04 Thread Mathnerd314
On 11/7/2012 4:37 PM, Kim Rose wrote: Hello, For those of you interested and waiting -- the NSF (National Science Foundation) funding for the 5-year STEPS project has now finished (we stretched that funding to last for 6 years). The final report on this work will be published and available

Re: [fonc] Final STEP progress report?

2013-01-04 Thread Alan Kay
It turns out that the due date is actually a due interval that starts Jan 1st and extends for a few months ... so we are working on putting the report together amongst other activities ... Cheers, Alan From: Mathnerd314 mathnerd314@gmail.com To:

Re: [fonc] Final STEP progress report?

2013-01-04 Thread Dale Schumacher
Kind of like music starts at 9pm :-) We're all anxious to see the results of your work. Thanks (in advance) for sharing it. On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Alan Kay alan.n...@yahoo.com wrote: It turns out that the due date is actually a due interval that starts Jan 1st and extends for a few

Re: [fonc] Final STEP progress report?

2013-01-04 Thread Alan Kay
Sliding deadlines very often allow other pursuits to creep in ... Cheers, Alan From: Dale Schumacher dale.schumac...@gmail.com To: Alan Kay alan.n...@yahoo.com; Fundamentals of New Computing fonc@vpri.org Sent: Friday, January 4, 2013 8:59 AM Subject: Re:

Re: [fonc] Final STEP progress report?

2013-01-04 Thread Carl Gundel
So, now that the NSF project is finished, does this mean that you are now unbounded by it and can take your research in some new direction that you didn't envision when you started, or are you going to continue exactly on the same path? -Carl Gundel From: fonc-boun...@vpri.org