Re: [fonc] Kernel & Maru

2013-03-26 Thread Duncan Mak
This is great! Dirk - how did you find it? Duncan. On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 6:09 AM, Alan Kay wrote: > That's it -- a real classic! > > Cheers, > > Alan > > -- > *From:* Dirk Pranke > *To:* Fundamentals of New Computing ; > mo...@codetransform.com > *Sent:* Monda

Re: [fonc] Kernel & Maru

2012-04-11 Thread Duncan Mak
Here's something else by David Fisher that I found online: http://www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?AD=ADA240565 *Title : *Languages Beyond Ada and Lisp *Descriptive Note : *Final technical rept. 22 Sep 1988-30 Jun 1991 *Corporate Author : *INCREMENTAL SYSTEMS CORP PITTSBURGH PA *Personal Author

Re: [fonc] Kernel & Maru

2012-04-10 Thread Duncan Mak
It doesn't look like any of the libraries near me hold it, but here you go: http://www.worldcat.org/title/control-structures-for-programming-languages/oclc/4335223&referer=brief_results http://www.worldcat.org/title/control-structures-for-programming-languages/oclc/82223524&referer=brief_results

Re: [fonc] Kernel & Maru

2012-04-10 Thread Duncan Mak
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Monty Zukowski wrote: > If anyone finds an electronic copy of Fisher's thesis I'd love to know > about it. My searches have been fruitless. > The title is not the same, but maybe these are variants of the same paper? http://dl.acm.org/author_page.cfm?id=81100550

Re: [fonc] Error trying to compile COLA

2012-02-29 Thread Duncan Mak
Hello Alan, On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 4:30 PM, Alan Kay wrote: > For example, one of the many current day standards that was dismissed > immediately is the WWW (one could hardly imagine more of a mess). > I was talking to a friend the other day about the conversations going on in this mailing lis

Re: [fonc] visual environments created by present/former VPRI staff

2011-03-30 Thread Duncan Mak
Hello Alan, On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Alan Kay wrote: > At Apple, besides Fabrik and Playground (several versions), there was > MacPal and Constructo > There was (unimplemented) "the hopping curriculum" which used a visual > syntax > Tableau was yet another "before-after" visual producti

Re: [fonc] On inventing the computing microscope/telescope for the dynamic semantic web

2010-10-14 Thread Duncan Mak
On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 6:51 PM, John Zabroski wrote: > That being said, I have no idea why people think Smalltalk-80 would have > been uniformly better than Java. I am not saying this to be negative. In > my view, much of the biggest mistakes with Java were requiring insane legacy > compatibili

Re: [fonc] git users?

2008-06-19 Thread Duncan Mak
On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 7:08 PM, Michael FIG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yeah, that was exactly the problem I ran into with trying to provide a > repo that was just a mirror of the files resulting from a certain > Guilt patch queue. Its history had to change, which screwed up the > clones. >

[fonc] modules and packages (was: syntax and productivity)

2007-11-27 Thread Duncan Mak
While I find the discussions on programmable/changeable syntax interesting, I think an equally important part to making this all work must be a good module system to enforce the boundaries. Grepping through the fonc mail archives, I don't think this has been brought up before. What are the plans f