Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote:
> It is documented in either book 1 or 2 of Digital Typography by (I think!)
> P. Karow, of URW (i.e. the folks behind the Ikarus format (just google
> for URW and Digital Typograhy or Ikarus)). I think it is in book one. The
> books are an absolute 'must have' - but
J.Pietschmann wrote:
> The TeX-Book has a chapter about this problem. It is available
> as textbook.tex (in TeX, and quite officially). Amazingly, I
> didn't find it on CTAN, but a google search turns up other
> servers (I can send you the 460k compressed source).
I think it is also Volume A of K
Sebastian Rahtz (PassiveTeX) would be a good source of information. I
think he tends to hang around on [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Btw, URW provide one of the best-known set of free Type1 fonts for linux.
Peter
Victor Mote wrote:
J.Pietschmann wrote:
The TeX-Book has a chapter about this problem. It
Peter B. West wrote:
> These are interesting and important issues. I had no notion of the HZ
> algorithm, but I was dimly aware from my reading as a teenager of the
> "rivers" problem, and acutely conscious of its distracting effect from
> my reading. In my thinking about layout, I have been con
Victor Mote wrote:
Peter B. West wrote:
These are interesting and important issues. I had no notion of the HZ
algorithm, but I was dimly aware from my reading as a teenager of the
"rivers" problem, and acutely conscious of its distracting effect from
my reading. In my thinking about layout, I
> True, but I had in mind that any such approach will be built on the fact
> that any layout is, in some sense, tentative. Rhett raised the question
> some time ago of a means recording (and scoring) intermediate results,
> something which will be an essential element of such a solution.
>
> A
Peter B. West wrote:
> At this stage, I would tend to think not of
> doing every possible layout, but of following
> the "optimum" values to perform initial layout,
> and then testing the result for "goodness".
> The minimum-maximum range provides the slack -
> within the context of the spec - for
I'd meant for him to contact me privately so I could mail him some photocopies and
save him the trouble of trying to find copies of the book.
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Subject: Re: so
Peter,
This brings back to light the possibility of needing to do multipass layout, doesn't
it? I had suggested something along these lines previously.
-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 12:30 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subj
Oops.
Peter
Rhett Aultman wrote:
I'd meant for him to contact me privately so I could mail him some photocopies and save him the trouble of trying to find copies of the book.
--
Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.powerup.com.au/~pbwest/
"Lord, to whom shall we go?"
Hi All,
There is a way to draw a border
of a cell/table/block minor than 1pt ?
Thanks,
Paulo Benfatti
Grrr...still I struggle with Outlook. I'm giving real thought to setting myself up
with a new POP account and using a web client so that at least I can format emails the
way I want.
Responses below...
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From: Keiron Liddle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, J
Keiron Liddle wrote:
True, but I had in mind that any such approach will be built on the fact
that any layout is, in some sense, tentative. Rhett raised the question
some time ago of a means recording (and scoring) intermediate results,
something which will be an essential element of such a so
Rhett,
If intermediate results from the FO tree and the Area tree are buffered
to disk, the distinction between single pass with back-tracking and
multiple pass begins to blur. For things like page number resolution a
straight-forward multi-pass solution may be best, but I would like to
see w
Peter B. West wrote:
Victor Mote wrote:
Peter B. West wrote:
These are interesting and important issues. I had no notion of the HZ
algorithm, but I was dimly aware from my reading as a teenager of the
"rivers" problem, and acutely conscious of its distracting effect from
my reading. In my t
Clay Leeds wrote:
Does the idea that there would be intermediate results mean that a
"human" could determine which is the best to perform the final layout?
I'm thinking of a system similar to how some OCR programs enable the
user to contribute to the process of recognition when the OCR program
Forgive the response to my own post...
Clay Leeds wrote:
Peter B. West wrote:
Victor Mote wrote:
Peter B. West wrote:
These are interesting and important issues. I had no notion of the HZ
algorithm, but I was dimly aware from my reading as a teenager of the
"rivers" problem, and acutely c
Any attempt FOP has at laying rules for layout is going to be applying heuristics. It
would be interesting to be able to expose the heuristics and allow for programmer/user
control of them. Still, until more of this materializes, I think we're getting famous
French mathematicians before the eq
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Does the idea that there would be intermediate results mean that a
"human" could determine which is the best to perform the final layout?
I'm thinking of a system similar to how some OCR programs enable the
user to contribute to the process of recognition when the OCR progr
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You can do things like border-width="0.25pt".
Please use the fop-user mailing list for asking questions like this next
time. Thanks a lot!
On 29.01.2003 02:30:03 Paulo Gustavo Benfatti wrote:
> There is a way to draw a border of a cell/table/block minor than 1pt ?
Jeremias Maerki
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Umm. The servlet should rather go into the source tree, right next
to the api and (ant-)task...
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Keiron Liddle wrote:
The only drawback is that it constantly needs to find the child layout manager that
applies to a given break...
Well, if there is a min < opt < max, and opt doesn't quite fit,
you have to choose whether to use the wiggle room to the min
or to the max side. This bothers me.
Hi,
I more or less fixed the leader generation causing all sorts of
problems and specifically #15936.
Some issues:
- The state machine detecting line breaks is brittle. It will probably
cause problems if leaders are mixed with graphics on the same line
I'm again tempted to do something about th
On Wednesday, January 29, 2003, at 09:05 AM, Victor Mote wrote:
BTW, I looked for but did not find licensing information at tug & ctan
licensing information, as well as in my Norman Walsh book "Making TeX
Work".
Does it use a GPL? If it had a compatible licensing scheme, it would
sure
seem to m
Sébastien Aperghis-Tramoni wrote:
> Information about the licenses used by the TeX related softwares
> are available on this page:
>http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/help/Catalogue/licenses.html
>
> The core of TeX, the files written by Donald Knuth, doesn't seem to
> be covered by a particular
On Wednesday, January 29, 2003, at 03:26 PM, Peter B. West wrote:
I can't visualise the flow of control here. I presume that the break
(possibility?) is generated at, say, line-area building level.
Yes, a break is only generated where it is necessary
[Is this always based on knowledge of t
On Wednesday, January 29, 2003, at 03:20 PM, Rhett Aultman wrote:
This might be semantic nitpicking more than anything, but how can
finding a worse break prove you have the best break? Wouldn't you have
to find all possible breaks and verify that they're "worse"? Also,
just for personal enl
J.Pietschmann wrote:
>3. Distribute any slack space left equally on the resizable spaces
> (subject to round off, should use a Bresenham-like algo for
> perfection :-)
>Can anybody come up with an algorithm to distribute slack space
>over several leaders which can deal with
Sorry, will relocate. Is org.apache.fop.tools.servlet ok?
On 29.01.2003 21:50:21 J.Pietschmann wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Log:
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>
> Umm. The servlet should rather go into the source tree, right next
> to the api and (ant-)task...
Jeremias Maerki
On Wednesday, January 29, 2003, at 09:54 PM, J.Pietschmann wrote:
Keiron Liddle wrote:
The only drawback is that it constantly needs to find the child layout
manager that applies to a given break...
Well, if there is a min < opt < max, and opt doesn't quite fit,
you have to choose whether to
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