RE: Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

2011-07-20 Thread Eric Douglas
ailto:bimargul...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 2:47 PM To: fop-dev@xmlgraphics.apache.org Subject: Re: Which came first, the chicken or the egg? > I assume either the FOP developers know why there's a circular > reference and have the resolution or they just use the compile

Re: Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

2011-07-20 Thread Benson Margulies
> I assume either the FOP developers know why there's a circular reference > and have the resolution or they just use the compiled jars and ignore > the issue. Just about the entire open source community disagrees with you. Everyone treats ant, maven, and (for that matter) gcc as opaque packages,

Re: Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

2011-07-19 Thread Giuseppe Briotti
2011/7/19 Eric Douglas : > I've tried to reference a source project rather than a compiled jar > wherever possible. > The annoying part of referencing the compiled jar is when I run from the > IDE in debug mode and it pops up windows saying no code attached. > Plus I thought it made more sense to h

Re: Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

2011-07-19 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
On 19 Jul 2011, at 14:58, Eric Douglas wrote: Hi Eric As already mentioned by Mehdi and Benson, unless you are really serious about debugging the Ant source code, it is probably preferable to only reference a binary. Some more thoughts on the inter-depencies (ultimately circular, yes, but no

Re: Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

2011-07-19 Thread Glenn Adams
ssage- > From: mehdi houshmand [mailto:med1...@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 11:23 AM > To: fop-dev@xmlgraphics.apache.org > Subject: Re: Which came first, the chicken or the egg? > > Hi Eric, > > Well, that kind of depends on how you work. It's al

RE: Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

2011-07-19 Thread Eric Douglas
on. Thanks -Original Message- From: mehdi houshmand [mailto:med1...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 11:23 AM To: fop-dev@xmlgraphics.apache.org Subject: Re: Which came first, the chicken or the egg? Hi Eric, Well, that kind of depends on how you work. It's always good to hav

Re: Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

2011-07-19 Thread mehdi houshmand
com] > Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 10:49 AM > To: fop-dev@xmlgraphics.apache.org > Subject: Re: Which came first, the chicken or the egg? > > Eric, > > Unless you are working on Gentoo Linux, you should not even consider > this path. Just download ant. Ant, being a build tool, has a com

RE: Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

2011-07-19 Thread Eric Douglas
open sourced in case there's any reusable code or any confusion on what the methods do. -Original Message- From: Benson Margulies [mailto:bimargul...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 10:49 AM To: fop-dev@xmlgraphics.apache.org Subject: Re: Which came first, the chicken

Re: Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

2011-07-19 Thread mehdi houshmand
; Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 9:08 AM > To: fop-dev@xmlgraphics.apache.org > Subject: Re: Which came first, the chicken or the egg? > > Hi Eric, > > What operating system are you working on? You probably don't need to > compile ant, there will almost definitely be binaries for you

Re: Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

2011-07-19 Thread Benson Margulies
Message- > From: mehdi houshmand [mailto:med1...@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 9:08 AM > To: fop-dev@xmlgraphics.apache.org > Subject: Re: Which came first, the chicken or the egg? > > Hi Eric, > > What operating system are you working on? You probably don'

RE: Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

2011-07-19 Thread Eric Douglas
mail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 9:08 AM To: fop-dev@xmlgraphics.apache.org Subject: Re: Which came first, the chicken or the egg? Hi Eric, What operating system are you working on? You probably don't need to compile ant, there will almost definitely be binaries for your operating system

Re: Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

2011-07-19 Thread mehdi houshmand
You'll find it here: http://ant.apache.org/bindownload.cgi On 19 July 2011 14:07, mehdi houshmand wrote: > Hi Eric, > > What operating system are you working on? You probably don't need to > compile ant, there will almost definitely be binaries for your > operating system. > > Mehdi > > On 19 Jul

Re: Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

2011-07-19 Thread mehdi houshmand
Hi Eric, What operating system are you working on? You probably don't need to compile ant, there will almost definitely be binaries for your operating system. Mehdi On 19 July 2011 13:58, Eric Douglas wrote: > If I try to compile fop source it says it requires ant. > If I download the source fo