Re: [fossil-users] Linux 2.6 :-(

2014-08-06 Thread Steve Bennett
On 6 Aug 2014, at 2:08 pm, Warren Young wrote: > On 8/5/2014 18:50, Sean Woods wrote: >> >>> I saw that jimsh references glob.tcl, so I removed all my local Tcl/Tk >>> stuff -- I wasn't really using it -- and rebuilt Fossil clean from tip, >>> to force it to use jimsh, and it still doesn't happe

Re: [fossil-users] fossil vs git-based arrangements. code review and ticket export

2014-08-06 Thread Scott Robison
On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 7:42 PM, Warren Young wrote: > I'll finish with my original premise: except in areas where software > development is just a way of doing physics or pure mathematics of one sort > or another, you probably are not doing engineering from the start. This is > why I prefer the

Re: [fossil-users] how to push to chiselapp

2014-08-06 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Will Parsons on Thu, 07 Aug 2014 00:53:53 -: > fossil push https://chiselapp.com/user//repository/ -B > ':' > By the way, if chiselapp does support HTTP_AUTH, then you might simply need to enable REMOTE_USER support in your respository if that is how you prefer to authenticat

Re: [fossil-users] fossil vs git-based arrangements. code review and ticket export

2014-08-06 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said B Harder on Wed, 06 Aug 2014 10:41:47 -0700: > Do we have fine-grained control over pulling only specifically rooted > branches? No, but you can certainly clone the developers clone and inspect his changes before pulling into your clone (or pushing directly to main repository)

Re: [fossil-users] how to push to chiselapp

2014-08-06 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Will Parsons on Thu, 07 Aug 2014 00:53:53 -: > Since I wasn't transmitting any sensitive data anyway, I answered yes, > and then got: > > Error: not authorized to write > > Is there something wrong with the way I'm trying to authenticate? I see you used -B for HTTP_AUTH. I do

Re: [fossil-users] fossil vs git-based arrangements. code review and ticket export

2014-08-06 Thread Warren Young
On 8/6/2014 15:27, Andy Bradford wrote: Thus said Warren Young on Wed, 06 Aug 2014 12:22:45 -0600: Out here in the normal software world, I think we are being presumptuous to use the word "engineering." We usually cannot write an equation to prove our software correct. The earth tr

[fossil-users] how to push to chiselapp

2014-08-06 Thread Will Parsons
I'm trying out chiselapp for the first time and running into difficulties. I managed to create an account for myself and upload an existing repo successfully, but I can't seem to figure out how to push changes to chiselapp. What I thought should work is: fossil push https://chiselapp.com/user//r

Re: [fossil-users] fossil vs git-based arrangements. code review and ticket export

2014-08-06 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Warren Young on Wed, 06 Aug 2014 12:22:45 -0600: > Out here in the normal software world, I think we are being > presumptuous to use the word "engineering." We usually cannot write an > equation to prove our software correct. The earth trembles as Dijkstra rolls in his grave:

Re: [fossil-users] fossil vs git-based arrangements. code review and ticket export

2014-08-06 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Ron W on Wed, 06 Aug 2014 13:14:13 -0400: > When a developer has a change ready for review, she/he sends a review > request with the name of the branch (on his repo). the the integrator > (or an automated process) would then pull that branch so the reviewers > can review if. Do you m

Re: [fossil-users] fossil vs git-based arrangements. code review and ticket export

2014-08-06 Thread Warren Young
On 8/6/2014 04:36, Stephan Beal wrote: On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 11:16 PM, Warren Young mailto:war...@etr-usa.com>> wrote: I'm not aware of any evidence that an approve-up-front development process gives better end results than a fix-in-place process. i'm fairly certain that space-going so

Re: [fossil-users] fossil vs git-based arrangements. code review and ticket export

2014-08-06 Thread B Harder
On 8/6/14, Ron W wrote: > On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 5:16 PM, Warren Young wrote: > >> On 7/26/2014 08:53, Eric Rubin-Smith wrote: >> >>> >>> * Code review! >>> >> >> Your talk of state machines suggests that you're instead envisioning a >> system where you can't get a checkin into the trunk -- may

Re: [fossil-users] fossil vs git-based arrangements. code review and ticket export

2014-08-06 Thread Warren Young
On 8/6/2014 01:49, Martijn Coppoolse wrote: On 5-8-2014 23:16, Warren Young wrote: 1. Set Fossil up as a server. [1] It's not even necessary to set Fossil up as a server; you can also run `fossil rss` Nice. Thanks for the tip. [2] A quick glance at src/rss.c in the Fossil sources says thi

Re: [fossil-users] fossil vs git-based arrangements. code review and ticket export

2014-08-06 Thread Ron W
On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 5:16 PM, Warren Young wrote: > On 7/26/2014 08:53, Eric Rubin-Smith wrote: > >> >> * Code review! >> > > Your talk of state machines suggests that you're instead envisioning a > system where you can't get a checkin into the trunk -- maybe not even into > a development bra

Re: [fossil-users] fossil vs git-based arrangements. code review and ticket export

2014-08-06 Thread Ron W
On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 6:36 AM, Stephan Beal wrote: > On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 11:16 PM, Warren Young wrote: > >> I'm not aware of any evidence that an approve-up-front development >> process gives better end results than a fix-in-place process. >> > > Just to play Devil's Advocate (and not intend

Re: [fossil-users] (New To Fossil): Repo Workflow / Should I Clone Or Use Many Opens

2014-08-06 Thread Stephan Beal
On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 3:25 PM, Stephan Beal wrote: > That's always been my assumption, but _somehow_ it avoids conflicting (if > it sees a conflict, it creates two copies and lets the user sort it out, > but i haven't seen that happen in about 4 years). My current hypothesis is > that either the

Re: [fossil-users] (New To Fossil): Repo Workflow / Should I Clone Or Use Many Opens

2014-08-06 Thread Stephan Beal
On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 2:14 PM, Richard Hipp wrote: > Advisory locks are used. So cooperating programs know to not have two > programs writing at once. But Dropbox is not a cooperating program in this > context. Dropbox just opens the file and writes, without paying any > attention to the advi

Re: [fossil-users] (New To Fossil): Repo Workflow / Should I Clone Or Use Many Opens

2014-08-06 Thread Richard Hipp
On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 8:10 AM, Baruch Burstein wrote: > On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 2:47 PM, Richard Hipp wrote: > >> >> On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 2:11 AM, Baruch Burstein >> wrote: >> >>> >>> To the best of my knowledge, Dropbox is not a "virtual" filesystem. It >>> is a regular folder in the regular

Re: [fossil-users] (New To Fossil): Repo Workflow / Should I Clone Or Use Many Opens

2014-08-06 Thread Baruch Burstein
On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 2:47 PM, Richard Hipp wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 2:11 AM, Baruch Burstein > wrote: > >> >> To the best of my knowledge, Dropbox is not a "virtual" filesystem. It is >> a regular folder in the regular filesystem that is managed by the OS. The >> only "special" thing

Re: [fossil-users] (New To Fossil): Repo Workflow / Should I Clone Or Use Many Opens

2014-08-06 Thread Richard Hipp
On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 2:11 AM, Baruch Burstein wrote: > On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 4:15 PM, Richard Hipp wrote: > >> I don't know how closely a DropBox folder follows correct (published) >> filesystem semantics. If DropBox is doing some no-standard things, then it >> might be possible to corrupt t

Re: [fossil-users] fossil vs git-based arrangements. code review and ticket export

2014-08-06 Thread Stephan Beal
On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 11:16 PM, Warren Young wrote: > I'm not aware of any evidence that an approve-up-front development process > gives better end results than a fix-in-place process. > Just to play Devil's Advocate (and not intended to diminish your thoughtful and detailed post): i'm fairly

Re: [fossil-users] Error compiling current trunk with VC

2014-08-06 Thread Tony Papadimitriou
The problem appeared in [5ce85eb6f8] Upgrade the built-in SQLite to the latest 3.8.6 alpha from upstream. (user: mistachkin tags: trunk) -Original Message- From: Tony Papadimitriou Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 12:15 PM To: Fossil SCM user's discussion Subject: [fossil-users] Erro

[fossil-users] Error compiling current trunk with VC

2014-08-06 Thread Tony Papadimitriou
I get this with trying to compile [78fdf9f5b2] with MSVC. Any ideas? ... zlib.lib ws2_32.lib advapi32.lib zlib.lib(zutil.obj) : warning LNK4217: locally defined symbol _free imported in function _zcfree zlib.lib(zutil.obj) : warning LNK4217: locally defined symbol _malloc imported in function

Re: [fossil-users] fossil vs git-based arrangements. code review and ticket export

2014-08-06 Thread Martijn Coppoolse
On 5-8-2014 23:16, Warren Young wrote: On 7/26/2014 08:53, Eric Rubin-Smith wrote: * Code review! Fossil already provides all the code review I think any nimble team should need: RSS. 1. Set Fossil up as a server. [1] It's not even necessary to set Fossil up as a server; you can also run