[Foundation-l] Fwd: [Wikitech-l] relocating search servers

2010-08-12 Thread Huib Laurens
forwarding because this hits more people than just wikitech-l -- Forwarded message -- From: Robert Stojnic Date: 2010/8/12 Subject: [Wikitech-l] relocating search servers To: Wikimedia developers Hi all, We are currently relocating some servers internally in the datacenter. A

[Foundation-l] Fwd: IRC meeting to discuss fundraiser

2010-08-12 Thread Philippe Beaudette
Reminder .. the first of these two IRC sessions will take place in a few hours... :) pb Begin forwarded message: > From: Philippe Beaudette > Date: August 9, 2010 8:22:49 PM PDT > To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List > > Subject: IRC meeting to discuss fundraiser > > Hi all, > > I'd like to

Re: [Foundation-l] Organization on Wikipedia that deals with content issues.

2010-08-12 Thread Bod Notbod
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 5:30 AM, James Heilman wrote: > Currently I am involved in a dispute regarding the interpretation of > the literature regarding Transcendental Meditation (TM) which has been going > on for years.  There are about 5 editors who admit to being practitioner of > TM and only or

Re: [Foundation-l] Partecipation in Wikimania 2011

2010-08-12 Thread Harel Cain
I'd just like to repeat the fact that Israel willingly stamps a separate insert page on request, so passports are not stamped if the passport bearer's doesn't want it. In that case you have no reason to "lose" it. Same should hold for a visa (visitors from US, EU and other countries don't require a

Re: [Foundation-l] Partecipation in Wikimania 2011

2010-08-12 Thread Bence Damokos
-Original Message- From: Osama Khalid Date: 2010. augusztus 12. 14:02 To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Partecipation in Wikimania 2011 > I can't believe people complaining about getting the visa in their > passports that will later prevent them to visit

Re: [Foundation-l] Partecipation in Wikimania 2011

2010-08-12 Thread Osama Khalid
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 04:43:13AM -0700, Mariano Cecowski wrote: > Osama, I'm afraid your view is very self-centric. Maybe it isn't. Maybe it's also what the people at ar (and probably at fa/id/ms) think. > We Southamericans have a really hard time getting into USA; and I'm > sure many couldn't

Re: [Foundation-l] Partecipation in Wikimania 2011

2010-08-12 Thread Abbas Mahmoud
Osama: exactly. Be sure to raise any issues early. Although it's still too early, i'm already keeping my eye on the Wikimania 2012 meta page and some bids have been made from Sydney, Stanford, and Barcelona/Andorra;-) > Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 14:46:33 +0300 > From: osa...@gnu.org > To: foundatio

Re: [Foundation-l] Partecipation in Wikimania 2011

2010-08-12 Thread Osama Khalid
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 11:40:37AM +, Abbas Mahmoud wrote: > one thing we should all bear in mind is that there WAS a bidding > process - and that was the most suitable moment for everyone to > raise their voices and concerns by challenging the bidding teams > with whatever questions that we ma

Re: [Foundation-l] Partecipation in Wikimania 2011

2010-08-12 Thread Mariano Cecowski
Osama, I'm afraid your view is very self-centric. We Southamericans have a really hard time getting into USA; and I'm sure many couldn't go to that Wikimania because of visa problems. As many couldn't go to Thailand because because of economic reasons. And some didn't go to Egypt because of re

Re: [Foundation-l] Partecipation in Wikimania 2011

2010-08-12 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
> I like many others would need a visa, my country has good diplomatic > relations and a good standing with israel, but having that visa on my > passport regardless of the stamp might create a problem for future travel > to > not just me but anyone else. This would affect not just me > but Europea

Re: [Foundation-l] Partecipation in Wikimania 2011

2010-08-12 Thread Abbas Mahmoud
People are raising there worries about Wikimania being hosted in Israel (me included), but one thing we should all bear in mind is that there WAS a bidding process - and that was the most suitable moment for everyone to raise their voices and concerns by challenging the bidding teams with whatev

Re: [Foundation-l] Partecipation in Wikimania 2011

2010-08-12 Thread Osama Khalid
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 03:59:38AM -0700, Mariano Cecowski wrote: > I beg to disagree; getting into United states is anything but easy. Maybe it depends, but I assume it won't be much harder for a European, Asian or African to get one than a Saudi. Why are we discussing this anyway? > And is not

Re: [Foundation-l] Partecipation in Wikimania 2011

2010-08-12 Thread theo10011
Well I want to attend Wikimania in Israel, but in all likelihood might not be able to even after not coming from the middle-east specifically. I like many others travel frequently to UAE and Saudi Arabia(rarely), as important as Wikimania might be the idea of not travelling there for work, family e

Re: [Foundation-l] Partecipation in Wikimania 2011

2010-08-12 Thread Mariano Cecowski
--- El jue 12-ago-10, Osama Khalid escribió: > Poland, Germany, Egypt, United States, Argentina and even > Taiwan were easy for the vast majority of the Wikimedia community I beg to disagree; getting into United states is anything but easy. And is not that Israel won't give visas to potential at

Re: [Foundation-l] Partecipation in Wikimania 2011

2010-08-12 Thread Osama Khalid
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 01:31:46PM +0300, Harel Cain wrote: > Actually, the United States in the last decade has a very strict > visa policy, I'm not so sure if some of the people Osama is > referring to could so easily get in - this remains to be seen. In Saudi Arabia it's pretty much about the t

Re: [Foundation-l] Partecipation in Wikimania 2011

2010-08-12 Thread Andrea Zanni
> > My opinion is simple. Israel is not a good place to have such an > international event as Wikimania. I wouldn't vote for Israel, Saudi > Arabia, Iran, UAE and other countries that are hard for many people to > get into. Having such a conversation isn't the point of Wikimania. The > fact that a

Re: [Foundation-l] Partecipation in Wikimania 2011

2010-08-12 Thread Osama Khalid
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 11:20:05AM +0100, David Gerard wrote: > So are you suggesting we cancel it? This is staggeringly unlikely to > happen. Or are you suggesting something else? I'm not. I'm saying that we need to recognize that it wasn't a good choice, and we should consider the social and pol

Re: [Foundation-l] Partecipation in Wikimania 2011

2010-08-12 Thread Harel Cain
Actually, the United States in the last decade has a very strict visa policy, I'm not so sure if some of the people Osama is referring to could so easily get in - this remains to be seen. Travel from Egypt or Jordan into Israel is cheap - how does that compare with flying to Taiwan? As I have alr

Re: [Foundation-l] Partecipation in Wikimania 2011

2010-08-12 Thread David Gerard
On 12 August 2010 11:10, Osama Khalid wrote: > Poland, Germany, Egypt, United States, Argentina and even Taiwan were > easy for the vast majority of the Wikimedia community to come into and > I don't think anyone had serious issue like the one we, Muslims and > Arabs, are have here. Just to be cl

Re: [Foundation-l] Partecipation in Wikimania 2011

2010-08-12 Thread Osama Khalid
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 10:49:15PM -0400, Nathan wrote: > Countries like Egypt, Taiwan, the United States, Israel, etc. > shouldn't be banned from hosting the Wikimedia movement because it > may be difficult for some Wikimedians to attend. Poland, Germany, Egypt, United States, Argentina and even