Re: [Foundation-l] some worries about fundraiser and editor appeals boycotting it

2010-12-07 Thread Mono mium
Seriously...just get rid of it - it's pure spam. On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 8:27 AM, Arlen Beiler wrote: > After all, a person probably isn't going to donate ten times just because > ten different people appealed for funds. > > On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 10:19 AM, Peter Coombe >wrote: > > > I believe t

Re: [Foundation-l] Brazilian Portuguese Wikipedia

2010-12-07 Thread Béria Lima
Not very friendly to go with your first message. But let's try again in a more polite way: We have bot articles? Yes we have, several bots create most of citys of France and some of Spain, German and Russia in Portuguese Wikipédia. but no one of those bots works anymore since 2007-2008. From now o

Re: [Foundation-l] Brazilian Portuguese Wikipedia

2010-12-07 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Tue, 7 Dec 2010 21:46:48 +, Béria Lima wrote: > Since you not speak portuguese and do not know our countries (in plural > because of Brazil / Angola / Portugal / Cape Verde / etc... ) and culture, > i > would be glad if you keep your opinion for you. > > The reputation of pt.wiki is our p

Re: [Foundation-l] Brazilian Portuguese Wikipedia

2010-12-07 Thread Béria Lima
Since you not speak portuguese and do not know our countries (in plural because of Brazil / Angola / Portugal / Cape Verde / etc... ) and culture, i would be glad if you keep your opinion for you. The reputation of pt.wiki is our problem, and the problem of the "little articles" is a question who

Re: [Foundation-l] Accuracy required

2010-12-07 Thread FT2
(For example if a person says "I was contacted by *an admin*" the reader is not being told it is a specific admin. The users has not said "by the same admin as before" or any other indication which one. "I am employed by *an academy*" does not necessarily mean the one academy I live near or worked

Re: [Foundation-l] Brazilian Portuguese Wikipedia

2010-12-07 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Tue, 7 Dec 2010 21:25:22 +, Béria Lima wrote: > Well, let's not make that a question of "my Wikipédia is better / bigger / > prettier that your", please > _ > Béria Lima (Beh) > Wikimedia Portugal > > This is a reputation question. If you have the community decision to have such rep

Re: [Foundation-l] Accuracy required

2010-12-07 Thread FT2
When a person says "by an arbcom" it implies by one of several arbcoms that exist. The word "an" (um/uma) suggests one of several/many. Perhaps more accurately "by the Portuguese Wikipedia Arbcom"? The term "for what it's worth" (or "as an aside") in English implies information provided that may

[Foundation-l] Accuracy required

2010-12-07 Thread Virgilio A. P. Machado
Let's see if perfect practice makes perfect. The quoted tag line, "The only Wikipedian that has been dealt with by an arbcom by his real name, NOT his user name!" has been questioned has "extremely inaccurate." It was used right below a name and user name: "Virgilio A. P. Machado (Vapamachado)

Re: [Foundation-l] Brazilian Portuguese Wikipedia

2010-12-07 Thread Béria Lima
Well, let's not make that a question of "my Wikipédia is better / bigger / prettier that your", please _ Béria Lima (Beh) Wikimedia Portugal 2010/12/7 Yaroslav M. Blanter > > > You may check my user page too, on the Brazilian Portuguese > > Wikipedia. It's a barrel of laughs. Sorry you'll h

Re: [Foundation-l] Brazilian Portuguese Wikipedia

2010-12-07 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
> You may check my user page too, on the Brazilian Portuguese > Wikipedia. It's a barrel of laughs. Sorry you'll have to check the > history. :-) > Well, as far as I am concerned creation of articles like this http://pt.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=29663_1998_WH23&redirect=no or like this ht

Re: [Foundation-l] Pieter Kuiper

2010-12-07 Thread Cool Hand Luke
What the hell is all this Portuguese stuff doing here? Adam's original message seems very disturbing to me, but then I'm often disturbed by Commons. Frank ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedi

[Foundation-l] Lead by example

2010-12-07 Thread Virgilio A. P. Machado
Let's see if I can get this right. There has been a very entertaining, albeit totally useless exchange on this list, as far as real results are concerned. I forgot at least one of the rules (probably more) of this list, and (almost) always addressed my comments to the person who made the comme

Re: [Foundation-l] Pieter Kuiper

2010-12-07 Thread Huib Laurens
Hello, Strange that Pieter kan rule Wikimedia Commons... So far that the Foundation need to step in. Btw, there is even a request to get him blocked on OTRS... People need to take action on Commons and don't point fingers because nothing will happen than. Huib 2010/12/7 FT2 > On Mon, Dec 6,

Re: [Foundation-l] Pieter Kuiper

2010-12-07 Thread FT2
On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 5:48 PM, Virgilio A. P. Machado wrote: > The only Wikipedian that has been dealt with by an arbcom by his real > name, NOT his user name! > This tag line is extremely inaccurate, for what it's worth. FT2. ___ foundation-l mailing

Re: [Foundation-l] Use Wikipedia as a Marketing Tool

2010-12-07 Thread FT2
On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 9:38 AM, Przykuta wrote: > > > On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 17:31, Fred Bauder > wrote: > > > http://www.inc.com/managing/articles/201001/wikipedia.html > > > > It is not a bad article. Basically tells the company to establish > > their presence, to join the general work on Wiki

Re: [Foundation-l] Use Wikipedia as a Marketing Tool

2010-12-07 Thread WJhonson
In a message dated 12/7/2010 9:38:23 AM Pacific Standard Time, przyk...@o2.pl writes: > "The more mentions you have in the press, and the more visibility you > have in social media and blogs, the more likely you are to seem legitimate > and > “notable” -- a precondition for inclusion." > > l

Re: [Foundation-l] Use Wikipedia as a Marketing Tool

2010-12-07 Thread Przykuta
> > On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 17:31, Fred Bauder wrote: > > http://www.inc.com/managing/articles/201001/wikipedia.html > > It is not a bad article. Basically tells the company to establish > their presence, to join the general work on Wikipedia, and start a > short article and let the community to j

Re: [Foundation-l] Use Wikipedia as a Marketing Tool

2010-12-07 Thread Andreas Kolbe
--- On Tue, 7/12/10, Peter Gervai wrote: > On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 17:31, Fred > Bauder > wrote: > > http://www.inc.com/managing/articles/201001/wikipedia.html > > It is not a bad article. Basically tells the company to > establish > their presence, to join the general work on Wikipedia, and > s

Re: [Foundation-l] Use Wikipedia as a Marketing Tool

2010-12-07 Thread Peter Gervai
On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 17:31, Fred Bauder wrote: > http://www.inc.com/managing/articles/201001/wikipedia.html It is not a bad article. Basically tells the company to establish their presence, to join the general work on Wikipedia, and start a short article and let the community to join. g _

[Foundation-l] Use Wikipedia as a Marketing Tool

2010-12-07 Thread Fred Bauder
http://www.inc.com/managing/articles/201001/wikipedia.html '“Wikipedia is a complex culture, and sometimes it can feel like the free encyclopedia everyone can edit -- except me,” acknowledges Jay Walsh, a spokesperson for the Wikimedia Foundation, the nonprofit organization that oversees Wikipedia

[Foundation-l] Get Listed! Wikipedia Marketing Secrets Revealed

2010-12-07 Thread Fred Bauder
http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20101207006158/en/VMS-Sponsoring-Wikipedia-Marketing-Webinar The program, focusing on the do’s and don’ts of getting information about your company on the Wikipedia site, will include insight from Richard Laermer and Sharon Nieuwenhuis, two Wikipedia marketing

Re: [Foundation-l] some worries about fundraiser and editor appeals boycotting it

2010-12-07 Thread Arlen Beiler
After all, a person probably isn't going to donate ten times just because ten different people appealed for funds. On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 10:19 AM, Peter Coombe wrote: > I believe that the plan is to bring in the "thermometer" showing how > close we are to our target in the later stages of the fu

Re: [Foundation-l] some worries about fundraiser and editor appeals boycotting it

2010-12-07 Thread Peter Coombe
I believe that the plan is to bring in the "thermometer" showing how close we are to our target in the later stages of the fundraiser. As you say, hopefully that will boost donations again. At the moment we seem to be doing fine. The personal appeal has proved itself extremely powerful, I think th

Re: [Foundation-l] some worries about fundraiser and editor appeals boycotting it

2010-12-07 Thread Olaf Simons
One of the problems is probably the rhythm of the fundraiser. Jimbo stepped in as he would normally do several weeks later. One would till then see the bar running up to the number WMF was trying to reach - and may be decide to actually make WMF reach its target.   The present campaign is extremely

Re: [Foundation-l] some worries about fundraiser and editor appeals boycotting it

2010-12-07 Thread Robert Rohde
On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 10:39 PM, Ernesto García wrote: > Seeing http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Special:FundraiserStatistics  I'm > quite worried about the onlook.. choosing "year to date" tab shows a definite >  deacceleration (and we still need about 4x the current cumulative amount). T

Re: [Foundation-l] Brazilian Portuguese Wikipedia

2010-12-07 Thread John Vandenberg
On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 1:11 PM, wrote: > Is this like the difference between "colour" in Great Britain and "color" > in the U.S. ? no. -- John Vandenberg ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikime

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Re: [VereinDE-l] Bericht zur Verleihung der Zedler-Me...

2010-12-07 Thread Béria Lima
> > *John Vandenberg: **Which project has had ArbCom members that were not > admins? > * Portuguese ArbCom members does not need to be an adm too. See please: http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Conselho_de_arbitragem/Elei%C3%A7%C3%B5es _ Béria Lima (Beh) Wikimedia Portugal 2010/12/6 Joh

Re: [Foundation-l] some worries about fundraiser and editor appeals boycotting it

2010-12-07 Thread Peter Coombe
This seems limited to messages on individuals' user pages, saying that they personally will be donating to "Amical" rather than WMF. I don't think the Foundation should step in on this unless the site notice or a community page is being messed with, though some form of clarification from Amical's l

Re: [Foundation-l] Brazilian Portuguese Wikipedia

2010-12-07 Thread WJhonson
Is this like the difference between "colour" in Great Britain and "color" in the U.S. ? ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Brazilian Portuguese Wikipedia

2010-12-07 Thread M. Williamson
> Before signing off, and before I forget, let me > ask another trivial question. It has been a long, > long time since you have opened a grammar of any > language, hasn't it? That's an easy guess, Watch the personal attacks. I read grammars every day, it's part of my work. Just last week I had a