Re: [Foundation-l] breaking English Wikipedia apart

2011-03-15 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 12:39 AM, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.netwrote: Even now, if you show up on some projects, create a new category, write a few new articles, you have to claw your way through nominations for deletion and a blizzard of nonsense from regulars, based on being new. Not

Re: [Foundation-l] multilingual mailing list

2011-03-15 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Tue, 15 Mar 2011 04:37:22 +0100, dex2...@pc.dk wrote: Fra: Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com Til: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Dato: Tir, 15. mar 2011 04:19 Emne: Re: [Foundation-l] multilingual mailing list 2011/3/14 Lodewijk

Re: [Foundation-l] multilingual mailing list

2011-03-15 Thread Lodewijk
Hi Milos, thanks for your attempt - it is appreciated :) I think you grasped it well, and I can imagine that a native Serbian speaker has more trouble with Dutch than a native English speaker. But yeah, probably neither of you would be able to understand it fully. My last sentence was referring

Re: [Foundation-l] breaking English Wikipedia apart

2011-03-15 Thread Ray Saintonge
On 03/14/11 5:41 AM, Andreas Kolbe wrote: So that would mean exporting all BLPs to a completely separate project, like Commons, which hosts and edits these BLPs, which are then available as read- only pages in Wikipedia. The existing BLPs in Wikipedia would be deleted, and any BLPs created in

Re: [Foundation-l] breaking English Wikipedia apart

2011-03-15 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 2:26 AM, Ray Saintonge sainto...@telus.net wrote: On 03/14/11 5:41 AM, Andreas Kolbe wrote: So that would mean exporting all BLPs to a completely separate project, like Commons, which hosts and edits these BLPs, which are then available as read- only pages in

Re: [Foundation-l] breaking English Wikipedia apart

2011-03-15 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 2:31 AM, Keegan Peterzell keegan.w...@gmail.comwrote: That reiterates my point: BLP policy /does not only apply to the deceased/. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:BLP#Deceased -- ~Keegan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Keegan *recently* deceased. --

Re: [Foundation-l] breaking English Wikipedia apart

2011-03-15 Thread FT2
Nobody has suggested putting WikiProjects in charge of anything. What is suggested is that they could be beneficially used as a more immediate point of contact for newcomers, where people can get to know other editors working on the same topic areas, and also on a cross-wiki level as a means of

Re: [Foundation-l] breaking English Wikipedia apart

2011-03-15 Thread Andreas Kolbe
--- On Tue, 15/3/11, Ray Saintonge sainto...@telus.net wrote: From: Ray Saintonge sainto...@telus.net On 03/14/11 5:41 AM, Andreas Kolbe wrote: So that would mean exporting all BLPs to a completely separate project, like Commons, which hosts and edits these BLPs, which are then available

Re: [Foundation-l] Access to academic journals (was Re: Remarks on Wikimedia's fundraiser)

2011-03-15 Thread Andrea Zanni
2011/3/15 Andreas Kolbe jayen...@yahoo.com I've been involved with open access journals as a professional activity from the start of the movement, long before I joined Wikipedia. There has been only limited success. Though there are almost ten thousand open access journals, 95% of them

Re: [Foundation-l] Access to academic journals (was Re: Remarks on Wikimedia's fundraiser)

2011-03-15 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
Though there are almost ten thousand open access journals, 95% of them are either very small or very unimportant, and in almost all fields of study, none or almost none of the important journals are open access: This is my experience too; thanks for pointing it out. I also think

Re: [Foundation-l] Access to academic journals (was Re: Remarks on Wikimedia's fundraiser)

2011-03-15 Thread SlimVirgin
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 06:32, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@yahoo.com wrote: Could someone from the Foundation please respond to the idea of contacting universities and content database providers and inviting them to support Wikipedia by making a certain number of log-in IDs available, with the

Re: [Foundation-l] Access to academic journals (was Re: Remarks on Wikimedia's fundraiser)

2011-03-15 Thread Fred Bauder
In connection with the Credo subscriptions Erik Möller Deputy Director, Wikimedia Foundation created the mailing list Wikimediareference-l list run by erik at wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediareference-l It has a little bit of discussion from March to July,

Re: [Foundation-l] multilingual mailing list

2011-03-15 Thread Béria Lima
There are at least one multilingual mailing list: Iberocoophttps://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/meta/wiki/Iberocoopmailing list[1], when people can write in Portuguese, Spanish or Italian. [1]: https://listas.wikimedia.org.ar/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/iberocoop _ *Béria Lima*

Re: [Foundation-l] Is there a good reason to delete the Burj Al Arab?

2011-03-15 Thread Marco Chiesa
On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 10:14 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: When I said can I was talking from a legal perspective. The law is the same regardless of what language the content is in. This is not correct, please read

Re: [Foundation-l] Is there a good reason to delete the Burj Al Arab?

2011-03-15 Thread Nathan
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 9:39 AM, Marco Chiesa chiesa.ma...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 10:14 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: When I said can I was talking from a legal perspective. The law is the same regardless of what language the content is in. This is

Re: [Foundation-l] Access to academic journals (was Re: Remarks on Wikimedia's fundraiser)

2011-03-15 Thread SlimVirgin
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 06:32, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@yahoo.com wrote: Could someone from the Foundation please respond to the idea of contacting universities and content database providers and inviting them to support Wikipedia by making a certain number of log-in IDs available, with the

Re: [Foundation-l] Access to academic journals (was Re: Remarks on Wikimedia's fundraiser)

2011-03-15 Thread SlimVirgin
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 06:32, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@yahoo.com wrote: Could someone from the Foundation please respond to the idea of contacting universities and content database providers and inviting them to support Wikipedia by making a certain number of log-in IDs available, with the

[Foundation-l] Job openings - Bugmeister

2011-03-15 Thread Kozuch
Hi there, what about this job opening? Has it been filled already? Greetings, Jan Kucera (Kozuch) ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Access to academic journals (was Re: Remarks on Wikimedia's fundraiser)

2011-03-15 Thread David Goodman
Universities can't do this, generally. All contracts I have ever seen limit the off-campus access to people connected with the university. A few publishers even limit the on-campus access similarly, but most publishers explicitly permit it. But many universities do even worse than the contracts

Re: [Foundation-l] Job openings - Bugmeister

2011-03-15 Thread Rob Lanphier
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Jan Kucera (Kozuch) garba...@seznam.cz wrote: what about this job opening? Has it been filled already? Hi Jan, We've asked Mark Hershberger to step in as Bugmeister. More details: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2011-January/051185.html We

Re: [Foundation-l] Job openings - Bugmeister

2011-03-15 Thread Casey Brown
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 12:34 PM, Jan Kucera (Kozuch) garba...@seznam.cz wrote: what about this job opening? Has it been filled already? Mark Hershberger (MAH) is fulfilling the role of Bugmeister and he's already started cleaning up Bugzilla. Id link to the announcement, but I'm not sure where

Re: [Foundation-l] Access to academic journals (was Re: Remarks on Wikimedia's fundraiser)

2011-03-15 Thread Erik Moeller
2011/3/15 SlimVirgin slimvir...@gmail.com: Speaking of the CREDO accounts, several people have asked that their accounts be reassigned, but they don't know how to do it. Could Erik advise? See here -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Credo_accounts#I_gave_up_my_account_in_June As

Re: [Foundation-l] Job openings - Bugmeister

2011-03-15 Thread Theo10011
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 12:30 AM, Casey Brown li...@caseybrown.org wrote: On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 12:34 PM, Jan Kucera (Kozuch) garba...@seznam.cz wrote: what about this job opening? Has it been filled already? Mark Hershberger (MAH) is fulfilling the role of Bugmeister and he's already

Re: [Foundation-l] Access to academic journals (was Re: Remarks on Wikimedia's fundraiser)

2011-03-15 Thread SlimVirgin
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 15:13, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: = Credo has generously offered a large number of additional accounts (up to 400 additional ones). The process that I used for the first batch was pretty clunky and time-consuming, so I've been using this as an opportunity to

Re: [Foundation-l] Access to academic journals (was Re: Remarks on Wikimedia's fundraiser)

2011-03-15 Thread John Vandenberg
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 8:13 AM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: 2011/3/15 SlimVirgin slimvir...@gmail.com: Speaking of the CREDO accounts, several people have asked that their accounts be reassigned, but they don't know how to do it. Could Erik advise? See here --

Re: [Foundation-l] Access to academic journals (was Re: Remarks on Wikimedia's fundraiser)

2011-03-15 Thread George Herbert
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 3:18 PM, John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 8:13 AM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: 2011/3/15 SlimVirgin slimvir...@gmail.com: Speaking of the CREDO accounts, several people have asked that their accounts be reassigned, but they

Re: [Foundation-l] Access to academic journals (was Re: Remarks on Wikimedia's fundraiser)

2011-03-15 Thread George Herbert
As I stated on the talk page - I agree with the idea of some standard for reference-useful content contribution, and that FA/GA work would be one aspect of that. But I'd like that to be a category with one option of satisfying it being GA/FA work, rather than that being the only way to fulfil it.

Re: [Foundation-l] Access to academic journals (was Re: Remarks on Wikimedia's fundraiser)

2011-03-15 Thread David Goodman
I can't speak for all my colleagues in the oa movement, as they disagree on almost every possible detail, and on almost every consideration of strategy, but I think most people there would regard taxpayer access both as a useful political slogan, and as a very productive strategy—a manner of

Re: [Foundation-l] Access to academic journals (was Re: Remarks on Wikimedia's fundraiser)

2011-03-15 Thread Erik Moeller
2011/3/15 SlimVirgin slimvir...@gmail.com: I'd be willing to help organize the names. It's just a question of coming up with some sensible criteria, so I'll restart the discussion about that on the previous talk page. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Credo_accounts Thanks Sarah. It

Re: [Foundation-l] Access to academic journals (was Re: Remarks on Wikimedia's fundraiser)

2011-03-15 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
I agree with Aubrey, Melissa, SJ etc. We should indeed promote OA journals and thesis (give a look at http://www.dart-europe.eu : almost 200.000 full text OA from 324 universities and 19 countries automatically collected and searchable thanks to the magics of OA and OAI-PMH), and encourage OA

Re: [Foundation-l] Sad for a wikimedian leaving on zhwiki

2011-03-15 Thread shi zhao
Jerry Wong also called wmrm, is a my friend. His blog: http://wmrblog.blogspot.com/ (have self deleted) cache: https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:0-vVZb9N7NYJ:wmrblog.blogspot.com/+wmrcd=2hl=zh-CNct=clnkclient=ubuntusource=www.google.com.hk his picasa also deleted

Re: [Foundation-l] Sad for a wikimedian leaving on zhwiki

2011-03-15 Thread shi zhao
sorry, wmrm is wmr. 2011/3/16 shi zhao shiz...@gmail.com wmrm ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l