Re: [Foundation-l] Blog from Sue about censorship, editorial judgement, and image filters

2011-09-28 Thread David Gerard
On 29 September 2011 07:40, Keegan Peterzell wrote: > On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 1:30 AM, David Gerard wrote: >> This post appears mostly to be the tone argument: >> http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Tone_argument >> - rather than address those opposed to the WMF (the body perceived to >> be abusi

Re: [Foundation-l] Blog from Sue about censorship, editorial judgement, and image filters

2011-09-28 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 1:30 AM, David Gerard wrote: > On 29 September 2011 06:41, Keegan Peterzell > wrote: > > > http://suegardner.org/2011/09/28/on-editorial-judgment-and-empathy/ > > Pretty sound blog, no matter which position you take. Naturally, please > > discuss the blog on the blog and

Re: [Foundation-l] Blog from Sue about censorship, editorial judgement, and image filters

2011-09-28 Thread David Gerard
On 29 September 2011 06:41, Keegan Peterzell wrote: > http://suegardner.org/2011/09/28/on-editorial-judgment-and-empathy/ > Pretty sound blog, no matter which position you take.  Naturally, please > discuss the blog on the blog and not thread this too much back to > conversation about the image f

Re: [Foundation-l] Blog from Sue about censorship, editorial judgement, and image filters

2011-09-28 Thread MZMcBride
Keegan Peterzell wrote: > http://suegardner.org/2011/09/28/on-editorial-judgment-and-empathy/ Both the Wikimedia Board and Wikimedia Foundation staff have treated the image filter as a fait accompli. I think downplaying this reality is predictable and lamentable in Sue's post. Individuals and org

Re: [Foundation-l] Meta main page

2011-09-28 Thread M. Williamson
No reason not to allow users to select their own language easily, especially given that browser language preferences and location are anything but a surefire predictor of language preference. 2011/9/28 Gerard Meijssen > Hoi, > Easy.. we recognise where someone is coming from ... check the brows

[Foundation-l] Blog from Sue about censorship, editorial judgement, and image filters

2011-09-28 Thread Keegan Peterzell
http://suegardner.org/2011/09/28/on-editorial-judgment-and-empathy/ Pretty sound blog, no matter which position you take. Naturally, please discuss the blog on the blog and not thread this too much back to conversation about the image filter. -- ~Keegan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Keegan

Re: [Foundation-l] Meta main page

2011-09-28 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Easy.. we recognise where someone is coming from ... check the browser language and dependend on all this we serve what is likely a good match. Thanks, GerardM 2011/9/28 M. Williamson > Translatewiki.net doesn't seem to be much more usable to people who don't > speak English, coming

Re: [Foundation-l] Dead Sea Scrolls

2011-09-28 Thread Anthony
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 8:34 AM, Nikola Smolenski wrote: > On 28/09/11 13:44, Anthony wrote: >> On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 11:52 PM, Nikola Smolenski  wrote: >>> The photograph does not constitute an origin or beginning. >> >> Sure it does.  Is there any such thing as an "original photograph"? > > Ye

Re: [Foundation-l] Meta main page

2011-09-28 Thread M. Williamson
Translatewiki.net doesn't seem to be much more usable to people who don't speak English, coming at it from the front page. Imagine you don't speak English, how do you suppose you go from http://translatewiki.net/ to a page with instructions or content in your language? One needs at least rudimentar

Re: [Foundation-l] Meta main page

2011-09-28 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, The main page at translatewiki.net is not less complicated imho. However, it has been localised and we know quite precisely what the state of the translations is. We can pinpoint precisely what needs doing. Thanks, GerardM 2011/9/27 とある白い猫 > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page/Te

Re: [Foundation-l] Three short films about Wikipedia

2011-09-28 Thread Phil Nash
Kim Bruning wrote: > On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 02:02:20PM +0200, Lennart Guldbrandsson wrote: >> Okay. I hope that I didn't stifle your comment, though. One idea: >> >> Feel free to dub in your own voices if you want voices. That could >> be very cool! >> >> Best wishes, >> >> Lennart > > Actually, i

Re: [Foundation-l] Three short films about Wikipedia

2011-09-28 Thread Kim Bruning
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 02:02:20PM +0200, Lennart Guldbrandsson wrote: > Okay. I hope that I didn't stifle your comment, though. One idea: > > Feel free to dub in your own voices if you want voices. That could be very > cool! > > Best wishes, > > Lennart Actually, if this is going to be shown

[Foundation-l] Happy Rosh Hashanah and happy Dussehra

2011-09-28 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Today it is both Rosh Hashanah and the start of Dussehra. It is also the first time that the Wikimedia Localisation team is coming together. We are still waiting for Santhosh his flight has been delayed... We will be planning what to do, when to do it and how we can get the most out of the wor

Re: [Foundation-l] Dead Sea Scrolls

2011-09-28 Thread Nikola Smolenski
On 28/09/11 13:44, Anthony wrote: > On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 11:52 PM, Nikola Smolenski wrote: >> The photograph does not constitute an origin or beginning. > > Sure it does. Is there any such thing as an "original photograph"? Yes there is, and this isn't it. >> The photograph is not the first

Re: [Foundation-l] Dead Sea Scrolls

2011-09-28 Thread Andrea Zanni
2011/9/28 Anthony > Someone most likely selected the F-stop, the shutter speed, and the > lighting. I doubt they just pointed the camera on auto and used the > built in flash. Someone most likely selected how to convert the raw > image into a jpeg or png or whatever they're using. They may hav

Re: [Foundation-l] Three short films about Wikipedia

2011-09-28 Thread Lennart Guldbrandsson
Okay. I hope that I didn't stifle your comment, though. One idea: Feel free to dub in your own voices if you want voices. That could be very cool! Best wishes, Lennart 2011/9/28 Bod Notbod > Hi Lennart, > > On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 8:09 PM, Lennart Guldbrandsson > wrote: > > > Thank you for y

Re: [Foundation-l] Dead Sea Scrolls

2011-09-28 Thread Anthony
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 11:52 PM, Nikola Smolenski wrote: > The photograph does not constitute an origin or beginning. Sure it does. Is there any such thing as an "original photograph"? > The photograph is secondary, derivative and imitative. Yes. > The photograph is not the first instance.

Re: [Foundation-l] Three short films about Wikipedia

2011-09-28 Thread Bod Notbod
Hi Lennart, On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 8:09 PM, Lennart Guldbrandsson wrote: > Thank you for your input. They are not late at all. I have worked with > writing and films for about ten years now, so I do not take your comments > personally. The only comment that is new is that I should leave the > d

Re: [Foundation-l] Dead Sea Scrolls

2011-09-28 Thread Ray Saintonge
There's an important point in what you say, though it is difficult to avoid sarcasm when feeling a Google spider creeping up one's back. In many of these cases there is the legal analysis and there is the pragmatic analysis They do not bear identical results. The legal analysis could conceiva