[Foundation-l] How Do You Cite a Tweet in an Academic Paper?

2012-03-03 Thread Achal Prabhala
From the MLA (Modern Languages Association) via the Atlantic: "Begin the entry in the works-cited list with the author's real name and, in parentheses, user name, if both are known and they differ. If only the user name is known, give it alone. Next provide the entire text of the tweet in quo

Re: [Foundation-l] WikiQueer

2012-03-03 Thread Achal Prabhala
Dear Gregory, Congratulations on WikiQueer - this is a valuable project, and the very best wishes for it. I'd like to bring your attention to a discussion held at the recently concluded WikiConference India: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConference_India_2011/Submissions/Documenting_Indi

Re: [Foundation-l] Subject: Re: The 'Undue Weight' of Truth on Wikipedia, (from the Chronicle) + some citation discussions

2012-02-23 Thread Achal Prabhala
Andrew Lih and Steven Walling and Timothy Messer-Kruse on NPR, discussing exactly this today: http://www.npr.org/player/v2/mediaPlayer.html?action=1&t=1&islist=false&id=147261659&m=147261652 On Thursday 23 February 2012 08:11 AM, Robin McCain wrote: Well, I'm not an active academic, but I have

Re: [Foundation-l] Oral Citations Sourcing

2012-02-23 Thread Achal Prabhala
On Thursday 23 February 2012 01:10 AM, Thomas Morton wrote: Splitting this off, Achal, I hope that's OK :) There's a discussion on at the reliable sources notice board, for instance, which highlights some of the interpretive problems you raise: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Wikipedia:Reliabl

Re: [Foundation-l] The 'Undue Weight' of Truth on Wikipedia (from the Chronicle) + some citation discussions

2012-02-23 Thread Achal Prabhala
On Thursday 23 February 2012 12:58 AM, Sarah wrote: On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 3:53 PM, Achal Prabhala wrote: Thank you Tom, and Sarah, for your very helpful explanations - they are extremely useful. There's a discussion on at the reliable sources notice board, for instance, which highl

Re: [Foundation-l] The 'Undue Weight' of Truth on Wikipedia (from the Chronicle) + some citation discussions

2012-02-22 Thread Achal Prabhala
hat's asking a lot :) On Wednesday 22 February 2012 08:56 PM, Sarah wrote: On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Achal Prabhala wrote: An aside: there are millions of oral testimonies hosted at thousands of extremely reputable organisations - on Native American life at the Smithsonian, or Holocau

Re: [Foundation-l] The 'Undue Weight' of Truth on Wikipedia (from the Chronicle) + some citation discussions

2012-02-22 Thread Achal Prabhala
On Wednesday 22 February 2012 08:08 PM, Fred Bauder wrote: Journals pose a particular problem as they are often, as in the case of the three journal articles in this case, behind pay walls. Those are peer reviewed, while his book by a commercial publisher has not received academic reviews. Som

Re: [Foundation-l] The 'Undue Weight' of Truth on Wikipedia (from the Chronicle) + some citation discussions

2012-02-22 Thread Achal Prabhala
On Wednesday 22 February 2012 06:59 PM, Thomas Morton wrote: On 22 February 2012 13:11, Achal Prabhala wrote: On Wednesday 22 February 2012 03:45 PM, Thomas Morton wrote: Jokes aside :) the problem here is exemplary of what Wikipedia *doesn't* do well, which is to find ways to a

Re: [Foundation-l] The 'Undue Weight' of Truth on Wikipedia (from the Chronicle) + some citation discussions

2012-02-22 Thread Achal Prabhala
On Wednesday 22 February 2012 03:45 PM, Thomas Morton wrote: Jokes aside :) the problem here is exemplary of what Wikipedia *doesn't* do well, which is to find ways to assess the legitimacy of not-yet-legitimised knowledge I'm not seeing a good argument that we *should* assess the legitimacy.

Re: [Foundation-l] The 'Undue Weight' of Truth on Wikipedia (from the Chronicle) + some citation discussions

2012-02-22 Thread Achal Prabhala
On Wednesday 22 February 2012 01:36 PM, Peter Gervai wrote: On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 03:35, George Herbert wrote: By far the majority of people who come up and "buck the system" or challenge established knowledge in this manner are, in fact, kooks or people with an agenda. This started - as

[Foundation-l] The 'Undue Weight' of Truth on Wikipedia (from the Chronicle) + some citation discussions

2012-02-13 Thread Achal Prabhala
There's an interesting article out in the current issue of the Chronicle: http://chronicle.com/article/The-Undue-Weight-of-Truth-on/130704/ It's behind a paywall, but in the spirit of fair use and in keeping with the author's intent (the article is on Wikipedia, and I believe the author would

Re: [Foundation-l] Indian Minister Kapil Sibal doesn't like morphed images of colleagues

2011-12-08 Thread Achal Prabhala
A useful update on this situation, for anyone interested: http://blogs.outlookindia.com/default.aspx?ddm=10&pid=2665* * On Wednesday 07 December 2011 04:09 AM, Marc A. Pelletier wrote: > On 06/12/2011 4:21 PM, WereSpielChequers wrote: >> Unless he casts his net wider I'm personally more concerned

Re: [Foundation-l] Indian Minister Kapil Sibal Wants to Censor social

2011-12-06 Thread Achal Prabhala
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 9:07 PM, Kim Bruning wrote: > >> On Tue, Dec 06, 2011 at 09:25:03PM +0530, Achal Prabhala wrote: >>> On Tuesday 06 December 2011 08:27 PM, Kim Bruning wrote: >>>> I do not believe that the Indian internet community shares Kapil >>>

Re: [Foundation-l] Indian Minister Kapil Sibal Wants to Censor social

2011-12-06 Thread Achal Prabhala
On Tuesday 06 December 2011 08:27 PM, Kim Bruning wrote: > (Also: seeing reporting on facebook and twitter activity, and > having viewed pages from eg. Hindi Wikipedia, I do not > believe that the Indian internet community shares Kapil > Sibal's position. Though they'll have to speak for > themse

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Wikimedia India Program Trust

2011-11-15 Thread Achal Prabhala
lquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter > livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. Ajude-nos a > construir esse sonho.<http://wikimedia.pt/Donativos>* > > > On 15 November 2011 14:19, Achal Prabhala wrote: > >> Can we not pick on a person whose "POV&qu

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Wikimedia India Program Trust

2011-11-15 Thread Achal Prabhala
Can we not pick on a person whose "POV" is that he wishes to participate in the Wikimedia movement in the fullest way possible? Pick on me instead. Oh wait... Best wishes, Achal On Tuesday 15 November 2011 07:40 PM, Béria Lima wrote: > OMG Gomà, can´t you leave any thread in peace without push

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Wikimedia India Program Trust

2011-11-11 Thread Achal Prabhala
gt; Internal-l however, I would be happy to go into much more detail for your > elucidation. > > On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 3:26 AM, Achal Prabhala > wrote: > > > Hi Theo > > > > On 11 November 2011 14:10, Theo10011 wrote: > > > > > Ohai Achal > &

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Wikimedia India Program Trust

2011-11-11 Thread Achal Prabhala
vement" is or where it should be headed. > I'm not entirely sure if you're being sarcastic here, Theo, but assuming good faith, I'll assume that you mean (like Sue pointed out) that the media does tend to confuse terms that sound and look similar. > Theo > Best wishes,

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Wikimedia India Program Trust

2011-11-11 Thread Achal Prabhala
Hallo Anirudh, Lodewijk, While I think that this discussion is very useful, it has been happening for some time - I know that Anirudh has raised these questions before, for instance. In that sense, I'm not sure how the registration of a trust changes the situation at all; I think that for anyon

[Foundation-l] The copyright question: What would Gandhi do?

2011-10-12 Thread Achal Prabhala
A friend of mine in South Africa, Isabel Hofmeyr, passed on this image of the first page of the first edition of the English translation of Gandhi's "Hind Swaraj" - or "Indian Home Rule" in translation. (Hind Swaraj was the blueprint for India's freedom movement). The book was published in Sout

Re: [Foundation-l] Blog from Sue about censorship, editorial judgement, and image filters

2011-09-30 Thread Achal Prabhala
On Friday 30 September 2011 11:47 PM, Theo10011 wrote: > On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 11:31 PM, Achal Prabhalawrote: > >> >> On Friday 30 September 2011 11:19 PM, Theo10011 wrote: >>> On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 11:14 PM, Achal Prabhala>> wrote: >>> >>&g

Re: [Foundation-l] Blog from Sue about censorship, editorial judgement, and image filters

2011-09-30 Thread Achal Prabhala
On Friday 30 September 2011 11:19 PM, Theo10011 wrote: > On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 11:14 PM, Achal Prabhalawrote: > >> >> On Friday 30 September 2011 10:54 PM, Theo10011 wrote: >>> On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 10:21 PM, Bishakha Datta>> wrote: >>> On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 9:45 PM, Milos Rancic >>

Re: [Foundation-l] Blog from Sue about censorship, editorial judgement, and image filters

2011-09-30 Thread Achal Prabhala
On Friday 30 September 2011 10:54 PM, Theo10011 wrote: > On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 10:21 PM, Bishakha > Dattawrote: > >> On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 9:45 PM, Milos Rancic wrote: >> >>> On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 16:24, Risker wrote: Milos, I believe this is exactly the kind of post that Sue was ta

Re: [Foundation-l] On Wikinews

2011-09-14 Thread Achal Prabhala
On Thursday 15 September 2011 01:43 AM, David Gerard wrote: > On 14 September 2011 21:02, Achal Prabhala wrote: > >> It wouldn't be an exaggeration to say that the world now follows the >> Wikinews model. > > No, you're describing bare skimming of the uned

Re: [Foundation-l] On Wikinews

2011-09-14 Thread Achal Prabhala
On Thursday 15 September 2011 12:40 AM, Andrew Lih wrote: > On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Sarah wrote: >> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 12:34, Andrew Lih wrote: >>> And, in Wikipedia's crowdsourced way, potentially a re-oriented, >>> mobilized Wikinews could produce in one week what National Geog

Re: [Foundation-l] Remedying systemic bias (was On curiosity, cats and scapegoats)

2011-09-12 Thread Achal Prabhala
On Monday 12 September 2011 02:01 PM, David Gerard wrote: > [subject changed] > > > On 12 September 2011 08:46, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote: > >> Right, but we do have this systemic bias already in place: in ALL our >> projects, the articles on localities in Sweden are longer and better >> written

Re: [Foundation-l] Informing chapters about closing/opening wikis (+ useful list)

2011-09-10 Thread Achal Prabhala
On Saturday 10 September 2011 06:07 PM, Milos Rancic wrote: > On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 14:17, Achal Prabhala wrote: >> This is an excellent idea. However, to cut down on frivolous closure >> requests, will you also make more explicit on the page (within the >> policy) that

Re: [Foundation-l] Informing chapters about closing/opening wikis (+ useful list)

2011-09-10 Thread Achal Prabhala
On Saturday 10 September 2011 05:28 PM, Ilario Valdelli wrote: > Good execpt some errors. > > Italian is national language in switzerland. > > Ilario > > On 10 Sep 2011 00:54, "Robin Pepermans" wrote: > > An idea that I raised during a discussion between the language > committee and Wikimedia So

Re: [Foundation-l] Personal Image Filter results announced

2011-09-05 Thread Achal Prabhala
On Monday 05 September 2011 03:53 AM, Kim Bruning wrote: > On Sun, Sep 04, 2011 at 11:54:44PM +0100, Thomas Dalton wrote: >>> Yes, exactly! You're smart! :-) >>> >>> Now, one definition of censorship is : >>> * Filtering on the basis of prejudicial labels. >>> >>> We're not actually allowed to cen

[Foundation-l] a funny story about wikipedia's strange power

2011-08-23 Thread Achal Prabhala
An interesting thing happened today. I started receiving frantic calls this morning from an officer at the National Gallery of Modern Art in Bangalore, who shall go unnamed. She had got my number from a colleague, who I met in the course of a GLAM meeting we organised earlier in the year. This

[Foundation-l] Oral citations project update: more articles + full English subtitle track

2011-07-29 Thread Achal Prabhala
Dear friends, A quick update on the oral citations project. 1) We have now posted sample articles in all 3 project languages, Malayalam, Sepedi and Hindi: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Oral_Citations#Articles.2F_Discussions_.28in_development.29 2) A full English subtitle track for the

Re: [Foundation-l] Oral Citations project: People are Knowledge

2011-07-27 Thread Achal Prabhala
Dear Castelo, On Thursday 28 July 2011 12:25 AM, CasteloBranco wrote: > Tom, > > The fundamental difference in our views is that you talk about > translation, and i'm talking about another thing. The projects are not > bare translations of another language version (let's say, the English > version

Re: [Foundation-l] Oral Citations project: People are Knowledge

2011-07-27 Thread Achal Prabhala
his is a possibility, there is no policy on citation of primary sources on Wikipedia. In academia, field work and interviews are often paraphrased; they definitely do not have to be reported inside quotes, though of course, they may be. > > > -Original Message- > From: Achal Prabhala

Re: [Foundation-l] Oral Citations project: People are Knowledge

2011-07-27 Thread Achal Prabhala
Hallo, (responses inline) On Wednesday 27 July 2011 11:57 PM, Wjhonson wrote: > For actual quotations from sources, you should quote the source exactly. > Then you will never be using original research. I don't actually understand what this means. If you look at the articles created: http://met

Re: [Foundation-l] Oral Citations project: People are Knowledge

2011-07-27 Thread Achal Prabhala
Dear Ziko, On Wednesday 27 July 2011 09:38 PM, Ziko van Dijk wrote: > Hello, > > Today I found the time to read the messages about the "Oral Citations" > project and watch the film "People are Knowledge". I hope that we can > go on in this discussion without accusations about racism etc. In > scie

Re: [Foundation-l] Oral Citations project: People are Knowledge

2011-07-27 Thread Achal Prabhala
meone on the team. Anyway the english wikipedia seems to be the > > appropriate place for your original research. I can't wait to read all > about > > it. > > > > I still think a research project in emesis in the global south or > something >

Re: [Foundation-l] Oral Citations project: People are Knowledge

2011-07-27 Thread Achal Prabhala
hink a research project in emesis in the global south or something >> would have suited english wikipedia better but that's just me. >> >> Your fan >> >> Elizabeth >> >> >> On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 2:38 PM, Achal Prabhala wrote: >> >>

Re: [Foundation-l] Oral Citations project: People are Knowledge

2011-07-27 Thread Achal Prabhala
Dear Tom and David, On Wednesday 27 July 2011 03:03 PM, Thomas Morton wrote: > This is a really interesting and thoughtfully complete project. > > As an editor I am cautious of how well these could be used as citations > without falling afoul of "original research". > > The first problem I see is

[Foundation-l] Oral Citations project: People are Knowledge

2011-07-23 Thread Achal Prabhala
Dear friends, At the beginning of 2011, a group of us began working on a project to explore alternative methods of citation on Wikipedia. We were motivated by the lack of published resources in much of the non-Anglo-European world, and the very real difficulty of citing everyday aspects of lived r

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Copyright problems of images from India

2011-05-10 Thread Achal Prabhala
Sreejith's point is that proving the date of authorship in commonly used religious iconography is difficult; it's also difficult to work through the dates of derivatives of the 'original' work in order to establish which versions have what period - if any - of copyright validity left. For what

[Foundation-l] A History of the World in 100 Seconds (according to Wikipedia)

2011-04-08 Thread Achal Prabhala
This visualization - 'A History of the World in 100 Seconds' - is fascinating. And instructive. (The missing byline is that it's a history of the world according to Wikipedia). Apologies for cross-posting and/or if you've seen it before - it seems to have been made about 2 months ago. From the m

Re: [Foundation-l] Questions about new Fellow

2011-01-20 Thread Achal Prabhala
On Friday 21 January 2011 07:26 AM, MZMcBride wrote: > Achal Prabhala wrote: >> Greetings, >> >> I'm happy to tell you a little more about myself and the scope of this >> short-term research project I'm undertaking, and I'm as happy to assume >> t

[Foundation-l] Questions about new Fellow

2011-01-20 Thread Achal Prabhala
ill anyone else from the Advisory board or maybe even the board, past or present members included, going to receive a "fellowship" now? Does it matter that they are mostly unknown by the community, obviously not. E. Forrester On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 12:23 PM, MZMcBridehttps://lists.wikime