Hoi,
Thanks for bringing this up, Yaroslav. If it turns out to be a really
solid claim, we would need someone neutral with language competence to
figure out what is going on there... Any ideas? I have a retired
professor in mind who speaks the language fairly well (Johanna Nichols
from UC
Hm, I think closing it is no option we should really consider. Maybe
we must try to share apart those who have understood the principles
and abide by them and those who don't and - well - remove sysop rights
of the latter group and encourage the first group to have the wiki
cleaned up and to
Dear all,
I want to remind everyone to officially start a bid for the locale of
Wikimania 2013. All bids made so far are *unofficial* and cannot be
considered, as long as they are not in the list of official bids on
this page:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2013_bids
The
It could be possible that a Wikimedia chapter is chosen to organize a
Wikimania, and they can then decide where to go (within their
country). Of course, the local chapter is always involved in
organizing it, anyway. So instead of a city bid one would have a
responsible chapter bid. This of course
Yes, that's why I just gave this as a possible alternative saying that
there would need to be a lot of trust in the chapter to do exactly
this sort of comparison (within their respective country). In case it
wasn't clear, I do support sticking to the method we used so far,
amendments and
2011/10/5 Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com:
CLPI has a good practical summary of the law in this area:
http://www.clpi.org/the-law/faq
interesting:
Q. If a charity incorporated in this country has an Australian (for
example) affiliate that lobbies (according to United States
definitions of
It is comparable, but only partially. That Italian law has an effect
on the content itself, the image filter only on the availability of
the content. But still, both issues are worth a community strike in
the way the Italian community chose, anyway.
Th.
2011/10/5 Lodewijk
2011/10/5 John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com:
The WMF is very unlikely to approve of this, as that would be
influencing legislation.
Why should the WMF not (at least try to) influence legislation if that
helps the goal of distributing free knowledge? I think it should do
exactly that, whenever
2011/10/5 Ryan Kaldari rkald...@wikimedia.org:
The WMF isn't allowed to lobby for or against legislation, per our 501c3
non-profit status in the US. This is not necessarily true for chapters
though, and definitely not true for the communities.
Ryan Kaldari
not for/against the US legislation,
Hoi,
I think disputes for wikis without dispute resolving devices are
better solved on Meta (on RfC), especially with the hopefully soon
coming global requests committee (any updates on this lately?) that
will help solving such disputes. So, I don't think such a wiki would
help anyone.
Th.
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika looks good to me (visually and
in Google translation).
(I realise you may have been asking more broadly than an educational context.)
You'll find them only in educational contexts as they are prohibited
by law in any other context in Germany and this
Hi Robin,
that sounds great, I hope these things will solve some of the
problems. Thanks for your efforts.
Th.
2011/8/12 Robin Pepermans robinp.1...@gmail.com:
Hi,
@Mark: although I do not like your tone in your original post, you
provide some good feedback (and started a thread with more
Maybe a new system of incubation would be helpful. For example, one
could start the requested wikis on their future domain
(xxx.wikipedia.org / xxx.wiktionary.org etc.pp.) right from the
request, with at least two voluntary experienced supervisors on each
(one can supervise more than one of these
Well, that idea also came to my mind (I didn't know that someone is
already working on it), but then interwikis wouldn't be possible,
would they? I think interwiki links are not unimportant to get native
or fluent speakers of a language to a wiki who are currently working
on other wikis. If they
There should be a general overview page where all projects are listed
with a very short description in the respective languages and a status
(open, under supervision, closed, in preparation or what else
you get), could be hosted on Meta. And this Wikimedia projects
summary or such can be
But that only includes wikis hosted on the incubator wiki, right? What
about the wikis that already exist?
BR
Th.
2011/8/8 Huib Laurens sterke...@gmail.com:
There is a complete list here:
http://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Incubator:Wikis I guess it would be easy
to add a status to it... And
That'd be great, indeed. But if there is an article in enwiki about
that language, there is always also a link to the project(s), even if
it is in the incubator, example:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afar_language (it's near the bottom and
on the right edge, though, so one might not see it
It won't be possible to save languages going extinct. Even if two or
three people start writing a Wikipedia in such a language, it will die
out as a spoken language, eventually, not later than it would without
a Wikipedia. I think it's nice to have a corpus of encyclopedic
articles in such
2011/7/11 emijrp emi...@gmail.com:
@Thomas and @Andre: I know that it is very hard to mantain a Wikipedia in
'remote' or 'almost extinct' languages, but, if we don't save as much as we
can of them (including words, grammar, culture, social values), how are we
going to offer 'all human
Why not? Why do people need to learn English to read a complete
encyclopedia? Biased thinking.
They don't need to learn these big languages, they already speak
them. The people learn other languages not because they want access to
Wikipedia, but because they want to communicate to more other
2011/7/11 Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il:
2011/7/11 Thomas Goldammer tho...@googlemail.com
How many people don't
understand any Wikipedia today?
Of those who can read at all, probably much less than 1%. The problem
are those people who can't read.
For persons who can't read
Yep. Wikipedia community have to start to rescue that knowledge in danger.
Knowledge is being destroyed everywhere: digital (dead links) and analogical
(dying languages/cultures, places [without pics], etc).
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Right! Digitalizing text corpora in
To make those languages viable enough to survive -- much more work
than just our is needed. I am sure that 10% of military budgets of the
world countries for one year would preserve all languages, but that's
the other issue. Basically, that's not our failure as Wikimedians, but
failure of
Hoi all,
as a recent lengthy CU case on de.wp showed, there is clear evidence
that two people (a lawyer and a PR entrepeneur) working at the law
school of a university in Germany, but on outside funding, have
influenced contents of de.wp (away from a neutral point of view) on at
least two
Kusema Kiswahili ni kuzuri! Kutoka leo tunataka kuandika Kiswahilini.
Huko munakupendeza.
Th.
2011/3/10 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com:
2011/3/9 Alison M. Wheeler wikime...@alisonwheeler.com:
- David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
Karibu foundation-l. Lugha rasmi hapa ni Kiswahili na
Why don't we just write in our respective native language, all of us.
XD Would make communication much funnier, I guess. :p
Th.
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What Thomas says may seem like a joke, but it's actually something
that's happened on this list in the past. :-) I remember a thread
where I was talking with someone in English while they responded in
German. We used Google Translate to figure out what each other was
saying and then we
Hoi,
You have been told that you need to make a back link from your home
wiki to the Meta account as well, if you don't have a global account
(because everyone can link to a certain enwiki account on their Meta
userpage and the real user won't notice it, but on your user page on
enwiki people are
Lodewijk is absolutely right. For example, Benutzer in German is a
default term, it covers both male and female users (probably the same
with gebruiker in Dutch), so why change it to something causing
problems all over the place, not only technical ones? They can add it
to the code of Mediawiki
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