Re: [Foundation-l] Does google favour WIkipedia?

2012-03-20 Thread Tom Morris
honestly believe that their keyword-primed advertorial page is actually more useful than a Wikipedia page and are astounded that Google might have the temerity to disagree. ;-) -- Tom Morris <http://tommorris.org/> ___ foundation-l mailing list fou

Re: [Foundation-l] CBC getting rid of physical archives(but not digitising all of them)

2012-03-14 Thread Tom Morris
: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC_Archives If the CBC were to follow the BBC's folly, that would be tragic and utterly stupid. -- Tom Morris <http://tommorris.org/> ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] A discussion list for Wikimedia (not "Foundation") matters

2012-03-02 Thread Tom Morris
fair few of those people probably are not quite so interested in getting into long and protracted arguments about chapter fundraising and movement roles and all that jazz. -- Tom Morris <http://tommorris.org/> ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Communicating effectively: Wikimedia needs clear language now

2012-02-19 Thread Tom Morris
e. To see the difference, consider: Wikipedia is the leading player in the online reference sector and provide a revolutionary cloud-based 'encyclopedia as a service'. Thanks to the visionary utilization of our key strategic software assets, we deliver value-add to our stakeholders by e

[Foundation-l] Communicating effectively: Wikimedia needs clear language now

2012-02-18 Thread Tom Morris
ble. There are volunteers in the movement who happily spend hour after hour copyediting on Wikipedia and Wikinews and Wikibooks and so on. Give them the opportunity to fix up the language used by the Foundation and the chapters. Remember: how can community members support and become more deeply

Re: [Foundation-l] New project: WikiMake - library of free 3D models?

2012-02-08 Thread Tom Morris
ive size. I'm wondering whether 3D Wikipedia would be possible: some kind of WebGL-based JavaScript 'player' that has a few pluggable physics presets. Then the ability to load models from Commons. I don't know enough about file formats and licensing and so on, but, thi

Re: [Foundation-l] Politico: "Wikimedia foundation hires lobbyists on sopa, pipa"

2012-01-22 Thread Tom Morris
d tag) that lobbying, certainly in Britain, is a right every citizen has: to ask their Member of Parliament to meet them in the lobby of the Palace of Westminster to discuss their concerns. -- Tom Morris <http://tommorris.org/> ___ foundation-l mai

Re: [Foundation-l] Adding a comment section under every Wikipedia article

2012-01-22 Thread Tom Morris
ymous Internet comments. We aren't craven pageview whores like our friends in the commercial news website business who are quite happy to trade intellectual standards (seriously, read a newspaper comment column) for advertising money. --

Re: [Foundation-l] Adding a comment section under every Wikipedia article

2012-01-22 Thread Tom Morris
re many MediaWiki extensions that can add a comment section to every > Wikipedia article. Just go to > http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_Matrix/AllExtensions and search for > "comment" or "discussion". > Sounds a bit like Article Feedback Tool v.5: https://en.wikipedia

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Wikipedia is considering going dark to protest SOPA and PIPA

2012-01-14 Thread Tom Morris
the possible cost of overriding project independence isn't worth the benefit in having some minor sites taken offline in solidarity. (Plus, Wikinews might want to cover the reactions to the Wikipedia shut-down. :P ) -- Tom Morris <http://tommorris.org/> _

Re: [Foundation-l] Blink tag jokes are now obsolete.

2012-01-03 Thread Tom Morris
quot; > Sure, that's why I was hoping to take into account some summary of what OTRS e-mailers said (obviously in an anonymous, statistical form). -- Tom Morris <http://tommorris.org/> ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wi

Re: [Foundation-l] Blink tag jokes are now obsolete.

2012-01-03 Thread Tom Morris
lla Foundation, Creative Commons and so on have really nailed merchandise), they want SMS donations in various European countries, they want it so that if they've donated it removes the banner for the rest of the fundraiser. -- Tom Morris <http://tommorris.org/> _

Re: [Foundation-l] Article Feedback Tool 5 testing deployment

2011-12-23 Thread Tom Morris
encouraging newbs to edit seems like a fairly good reason for us to not jump the gun and switch it off prematurely. -- Tom Morris <http://tommorris.org/> ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Article Feedback Tool 5 testing deployment

2011-12-22 Thread Tom Morris
ther than enwiki without a lot more discussion and consultation. But then I've just been watching the process quietly from the sidelines: I may have got this all wrong. -- Tom Morris <http://tommorris.org/> ___ foundation-l mailing list found

Re: [Foundation-l] "RevisionRank": automatically finding out high-quality revisions of an article

2011-12-19 Thread Tom Morris
e version. As for author reputation, check out the WikiTrust extension for Firefox - see http://www.wikitrust.net/ -- Tom Morris <http://tommorris.org/> ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

[Foundation-l] WikiRiffs

2011-12-18 Thread Tom Morris
2012 will be going to the WMF. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFpPpMpopV8 Which is pretty cool. ;-) -- Tom Morris <http://tommorris.org/> ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.

Re: [Foundation-l] Image filter brainstorming: Personal filter lists

2011-12-01 Thread Tom Morris
ue of principle may be very strong - and Kim Bruning made the point about the ALA definition, for instance, which is a principled rather than consequentialist objection. Generally, though, I don't particularly care *what* people think, I care *why* they think it. This is why the debate over this has b

Re: [Foundation-l] Image filter brainstorming: Personal filter lists

2011-11-30 Thread Tom Morris
oice or otherwise. > My point was not to provide an argument for or against any particular implementation. It was a response to one particularly god-awful argument. -- Tom Morris <http://tommorris.org/> ___ foundation-l mailing list f

Re: [Foundation-l] Image filter brainstorming: Personal filter lists

2011-11-29 Thread Tom Morris
r but I can > understand it as a theoretical concern. Has the board or WMF talked about / > addressed this issue anywhere in regards to "set" based filter systems? > I find it highly unconvincing and wrote an extended blog post on the topic a

Re: [Foundation-l] Image filter brainstorming: Personal filter lists

2011-11-29 Thread Tom Morris
iew has been so well heeded. -- Tom Morris <http://tommorris.org/> ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Error message

2011-11-28 Thread Tom Morris
ionary? The word Wiktionary with the label "a currently-offline wiki-based Open Content dictionary" Commons could have the arrows pointing all over the place. As for Wikinews? Well, duh, that should tell you that the site is offline as a breaking news headline. -- Tom Morris <http://tom

Re: [Foundation-l] Image filter brainstorming: Personal filter lists

2011-11-26 Thread Tom Morris
plemented on Wikipedia using userscripts. The difference is that the WMF may do it in a slightly more user-friendly way given that they have access to the servers. * That's less sarcastic than it sounds. -- Tom Morris <http://tommorris.org/> ___

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Thank you from the Wikimedia Foundation

2011-11-16 Thread Tom Morris
can cause > un-intended comic effects, depending which article one is reading. > A rather OTT one I print-screened for effect: http://imgur.com/SfSDr But, yes, this has been mentioned a few times by people writing in to OTRS and also on some social media sites. -- Tom Morris

Re: [Foundation-l] [WikiEN-l] Newbie recruitment: referencing

2011-11-03 Thread Tom Morris
On Thursday, November 3, 2011, David Gerard wrote: > On 3 November 2011 12:22, Tom Morris wrote: > >> Perhaps this could be part of the article feedback tool: "is this article >> missing a source? could you tell us what it is?" - this would automatically >> d

Re: [Foundation-l] [WikiEN-l] Newbie recruitment: referencing

2011-11-03 Thread Tom Morris
ype in, along with a template called something like "potential ref" which would add a category so someone could go and check up on it. And, yes, I do know that this may seem like I'm coming up with a solution to the huge backlog of unreferenced articles

Re: [Foundation-l] Newbie recruitment: referencing

2011-11-03 Thread Tom Morris
box around and generally making things slow. Personally, I just use the built in 'Cite' buttons and I also use Reftag, a tool that lets you paste in a Google Books URL and which then spits out a copy-pasteable citation - see http://reftag.appspot.com/ -- Tom Morris <http://tommorris.org/>

Re: [Foundation-l] Office Hours

2011-11-01 Thread Tom Morris
ndon. It is arguably the same as Coordinated Universal Time (UTC)" "In the United Kingdom, GMT is the official time only during winter; during summer British Summer Time is used." I'm presuming you mean midnight on Thursday UTC/GMT. -- T

Re: [Foundation-l] Office Hours on the article feedback tool

2011-10-26 Thread Tom Morris
for retrieving certain subsets of the data, do ask and someone with Toolserver access can run queries against the data and provide the results. -- Tom Morris <http://tommorris.org/> ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wik

[Foundation-l] Creative Commons fundraiser starts

2011-10-26 Thread Tom Morris
want to give (or encourage others to give) to CC as well as Wikimedia. -- Tom Morris <http://tommorris.org/> ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Letter to the community on Controversial Content

2011-10-18 Thread Tom Morris
dia in public without offending the moral sensibilities of people who catch a glance at my laptop screen would be a feature. Being able to click 'Random page' without the chance of a public order offence flowing from it would also be pretty nifty. -- Tom Morris <http://tommorris.org/> ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Blog from Sue about censorship, editorial judgement, and image filters

2011-10-02 Thread Tom Morris
ey would have done it already." Following this impeccable logic, they decide that it's probably not something anybody wants, and continue pressing on with Nupedia... -- Tom Morris <http://tommorris.org/> ___ foundation-l ma

Re: [Foundation-l] 10th wiki-birthdays?

2011-09-25 Thread Tom Morris
rst edit? Changing Photography to include both digital and film photography. [1] Thousands upon thousands of edits later (and after an extended WikiBreak at Citizendium), I'm still addicted! ;-) [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Photograph&diff=prev&oldid=388293 -- T

Re: [Foundation-l] A Wikimedia project has forked

2011-09-22 Thread Tom Morris
d make it usable and presentable and Wikimedians to write up stories around it. Producing original news stories might be slightly more interesting than 'Yet Another Google Maps Mashup' hacks which is usually what is done with the data. It would also produce stories that would be unavailable

Re: [Foundation-l] On Wikinews

2011-09-19 Thread Tom Morris
tleneck, it becomes simply a matter of throwing more people at the problem. -- Tom Morris <http://tommorris.org/> ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] On Wikinews

2011-09-13 Thread Tom Morris
BBC...) [1] http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Spanish_smoking_ban_takes_effect_in_bars_and_restaurants [2] http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jan/28/bbc-world-service-cuts-response -- Tom Morris <http://tommorris.org/> ___ foundation-l mailing list foundati

Re: [Foundation-l] Dispute resolution wiki

2011-09-10 Thread Tom Morris
rategy, chapter wikis, private wikis: making more wikis doesn't solve problems, it just means we have more damn watchlists to keep track of. -- Tom Morris <http://tommorris.org/> ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.

Re: [Foundation-l] On curiosity, cats and scapegoats

2011-09-09 Thread Tom Morris
ter wouldn't have those problems: it's just when you go to a page which has, say, sexual content, you'd know exactly what had been left out. Again, I'm not sure whether I support the image filter, but it's a rubbish argument to say that it creates filter bubble-t

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Draft Terms of Use for Review

2011-09-09 Thread Tom Morris
list may lead the reader to think this adds no new rules to bide by beyond those imposed by the law of their country and the United States. It'd be helpful if that could be clarified. I'm sure when I'm not tired and on the last train home, I'll find some other things to nitpi

Re: [Foundation-l] The systematic and codified bias against non-Western articles on Wikinews

2011-09-06 Thread Tom Morris
re reviewers. To get more reviewers, we need more editors. To get more editors, we actually have to publish their stories relatively quickly so they don't get disenchanted and frustrated with the whole process. And to do that, we need more reviewers

Re: [Foundation-l] The systematic and codified bias against non-Western articles on Wikinews

2011-09-05 Thread Tom Morris
On Tuesday, September 6, 2011, Fajro wrote: > On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 2:21 AM, Tom Morris > > wrote: > > non-Western topics: see http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Category:Chile > > Chile non-western? > Fixed! > http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Chile&diff=prev&am

Re: [Foundation-l] The systematic and codified bias against non-Western articles on Wikinews

2011-09-05 Thread Tom Morris
review process is slow and broken but it handles non-Western topics: see http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Category:Chile -- Tom Morris <http://tommorris.org/> ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikisource: Trademark infrigment?

2011-09-05 Thread Tom Morris
Google have some kind of books thing in the pipeline apparently). Wikibooks and Wikiquote too. Not so sure whether there is such a pressing need for Wikiversity on mobile, so whatever. Anyone at the Foundation: any chance of mobile versions for the sister projects? -- Tom Morr

Re: [Foundation-l] How to free something from Wikipedia in the public domain?

2011-08-26 Thread Tom Morris
, wiki-based; cons: language barrier) That seems the most sensible way. It's not an OTRS issue. -- Tom Morris <http://tommorris.org/> ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Genuine, Generous, and Grateful

2011-08-18 Thread Tom Morris
ium, I wrote a script to pipe new pages into Twitter. It's still running: http://twitter.com/cz_newdrafts -- Tom Morris <http://tommorris.org/> ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wiki

Re: [Foundation-l] To make it easy to fork and leave

2011-08-15 Thread Tom Morris
media profile to an existing OpenID provider). -- Tom Morris <http://tommorris.org/> ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] We need to make it easy to fork and leave

2011-08-15 Thread Tom Morris
pedia against someone), and any comments that come up in the 'packaging' process could be taken as feedback in the normal way just as if packager at Debian finds a bug with a piece of software, he or she can point that out the upstr

Re: [Foundation-l] Start "questions and answers" site within Wikimedia

2011-07-22 Thread Tom Morris
ivalent. Basically use the StackExchange version as a test bed to see if Wikimedia should a Q&A site of its own. -- Tom Morris <http://tommorris.org/> ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Merge wikis

2011-07-04 Thread Tom Morris
ikisources > and wiktionaries) could be merged as to foster the develop of those > projects. > Yep, I wasn't suggesting merging Wiktionary and Wikisource into Wikipedia. But we don't need new wikis for cross-project collaboration or outreach: we have Meta, so use it! -- Tom Mo

Re: [Foundation-l] Merge wikis

2011-07-04 Thread Tom Morris
easier if they could just be part of Meta. Plus, the "tenth anniversary year" of Wikipedia is still rolling, and the tenth anniversary of Wikipedias in Polish, Afrikaans, Norwegian and Esperanto are coming up this year. -- Tom Morris <http://tommorris.org/> Please don't print

Re: [Foundation-l] Merge wikis

2011-07-01 Thread Tom Morris
On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 22:52, WereSpielChequers wrote: > But I see no reason why ten wiki, Strategy and the various wikimanias > each need their own wiki as opposed to being projects within meta. > Outreach and Strategy could and should be folded back into Meta... -- Tom Mor

Re: [Foundation-l] Call for referendum

2011-06-30 Thread Tom Morris
rison with the so-called 'filter bubble' is a good one. I'd have a problem if people started making overwrought comparison to Nazi book burnings too. Justifying such an overwrought comparison by saying "well, the material would still be censored" isn't helpful to the dis

Re: [Foundation-l] Black market science

2011-06-26 Thread Tom Morris
r than the 'brutally fisted with stinging nettles by Satan himself' category. -- Tom Morris <http://tommorris.org/> Please don't print this e-mail out unless you want a hard copy of it. If you do, go ahead. I won't stop you. Nor will I waste your ink/toner with 300+ lines o

Re: [Foundation-l] Amicus Brief Filed in Golan v. Holder: Fighting for the Public Domain

2011-06-23 Thread Tom Morris
ed by the authors concerned or permitted by law". But in doing so, you haven't infringed on the copyright of either the concert performer or the creator of the device. Another similar case might be some of the CDs that you could disable the DRM on by covering certain areas of the disk surfa

Re: [Foundation-l] Interesting legal action

2011-05-20 Thread Tom Morris
commercial-needs/ This should be... interesting. -- Tom Morris <http://tommorris.org/> Please don't print this e-mail out unless you want a hard copy of it. If you do, go ahead. I won't stop you. ___ foundation-l mailing list fo