Re: [Foundation-l] Wiktionary App, beta release (Android v1.0.1b)

2012-03-28 Thread rupert THURNER
While I really appreciate that wiktionary is covered so prominently I am a little confused as well. What is, from a technical standpoint, different in this app compared to the wikipedia app? rupert Am 28.03.2012 00:43 schrieb "Patrick Hayes" : > Hi everyone! > > The first beta release of the Wikt

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Fwd: Announcement: New editor engagement experiments team!

2012-03-24 Thread rupert THURNER
On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 02:26, Samuel Klein wrote: > Technically, we could attract raw contributors with the flick of a > finger: by encouraging editing via sitenotices. > But attracting people who won't contribute well, or will have a bad > experience -- or doing so when there is no good way to i

Re: [Foundation-l] [WikiEN-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

2012-03-14 Thread rupert THURNER
I did use a very old "konversationslexikon" as a child, mainly for the pictures. With our children this got replaced now by online resources. And no, not by wikipedia, but by YouTube. And every time I spend 15 minutes to find a video to illustrate something it makes me a little sad that we as a gro

Re: [Foundation-l] A discussion list for Wikimedia (not "Foundation") matters

2012-03-01 Thread rupert THURNER
On Mar 1, 2012 12:12 PM, "Amir E. Aharoni" wrote: > > 2012/3/1 David Gerard : > > On 1 March 2012 10:23, Strainu wrote: > > > >> If names are that important for you, go ahead and rename foundation-l, > >> but there is really no need for yet another list. > > > > > > +1 > > > > Adding a new list w

Re: [Foundation-l] Waste of money, Wikipediacentrism. - Brazil

2012-01-25 Thread rupert THURNER
to avoid such either/or discussions, would it be possible to fund rodrigos proposal with a similar amount of money? make the money flow to projects conducted by local people seems to be a very well accepted strategy ... even if not everything will be flawless. rupert On Jan 25, 2012 9:42 PM, "Stev

Re: [Foundation-l] Regarding Berkman/Sciences Po study

2011-12-10 Thread rupert THURNER
On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 10:10, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: > Dario Taraborelli, 10/12/2011 04:51: >> • Is the Foundation running ads? >> No, this banner is a recruitment campaign for a research project that has >> been thoroughly reviewed by the Research Committee. We have a long tradition >> of

Re: [Foundation-l] "Vital Articles" underperforming?

2011-12-04 Thread rupert THURNER
such a lazy "theoretical" message. > -- > Alasdair > > > On Sunday, 4 December 2011 at 19:38, rupert THURNER wrote: > >> did you already improve one of these articles or you are just writing >> theoretical mails about theoretically improving a list

Re: [Foundation-l] "Vital Articles" underperforming?

2011-12-04 Thread rupert THURNER
did you already improve one of these articles or you are just writing theoretical mails about theoretically improving a list, and theoretically improving some text? On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 19:31, Alasdair wrote: > If you look at the '10,000" articles list - it becomes very clear that the > select

Re: [Foundation-l] "Vital Articles" underperforming?

2011-12-04 Thread rupert THURNER
uh .. you are right ... sometimes one might wonder what http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_Education_Program are for if such basic articles stay in such a state. like one "professor for information technology": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:United_States_Education_Program/Courses/In

Re: [Foundation-l] Fundraising is for men

2011-11-29 Thread rupert THURNER
fyi, in switzerland there are 2 mio readers and below 1 donors ... this means more than 99% are not giving money. On Nov 29, 2011 11:21 PM, "emijrp" wrote: > 2011/11/29 Thomas Dalton > > > On 29 November 2011 21:51, emijrp wrote: > > > Dear all; > > > > > > We have heard many times that mos

Re: [Foundation-l] Article Feedback Tool office hours - 2nd December, 19:00 UTC

2011-11-29 Thread rupert THURNER
eaders "do you have an image of this? If so, why > not upload it?" or whatever if they provide a sucky rating for a photo. > I'll drop the devs a note and see what their plans are in this field :). > > On 29 November 2011 19:36, rupert THURNER > wrote: > > &

Re: [Foundation-l] Article Feedback Tool office hours - 2nd December, 19:00 UTC

2011-11-29 Thread rupert THURNER
t; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Article_Feedback_Tool/Version_5) > we're moving away from "rating" articles. > > On 29 November 2011 19:13, rupert THURNER > wrote: > > > would it be possible to have a rating for pictures as well? > > On Nov 29, 2011 6:17 PM, "Oliver

Re: [Foundation-l] Article Feedback Tool office hours - 2nd December, 19:00 UTC

2011-11-29 Thread rupert THURNER
have, so - > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Article_Feedback_Tool/Version_5) > we're moving away from "rating" articles. > > On 29 November 2011 19:13, rupert THURNER > wrote: > > > would it be possible to have a rating for pictures as well? > > On

Re: [Foundation-l] Article Feedback Tool office hours - 2nd December, 19:00 UTC

2011-11-29 Thread rupert THURNER
would it be possible to have a rating for pictures as well? On Nov 29, 2011 6:17 PM, "Oliver Keyes" wrote: > Hey guys! > > Another AFT session - this one will be in #wikimedia-office on 2 December, > at 19:00 UTC. If you're vaguely interested in playing around with > prototypes, you should attend

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Wikimedia India Program Trust

2011-11-22 Thread rupert THURNER
y be in order. Agree that things don't work out should be > dropped, but maybe new ways of doing things can also provide new answers. > > And yes, a one-size-fits-all solution is unlikely to work, given how > culturally diverse the world is. So yes, boots on the ground, but also ear > t

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Wikimedia India Program Trust

2011-11-16 Thread rupert THURNER
hi bishaka, many thanks for your mail! i like a lot your attitude a lot to challenge constantly existing ways of thinking and doing :) just let us look on others. our exemplary organizations are not doing anything different than in all other countries: * http://www.indianredcross.org/sb.htm * htt

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Wikimedia India Program Trust

2011-11-15 Thread rupert THURNER
would you be so kind to tell us a reason why 1. the indian chapter does not receive 50 dollars to hire 2 persons, to pay the internet and telephone cost of 150 volunteers and to pay prices for 50 writing and photo shooting competitions around many universities in india? the first price could a

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Wikimedia India Program Trust

2011-11-11 Thread rupert THURNER
the result of 10 minutes googling is ... hisham mundol. total edits 138, in 38 different pages. active since 4 months, active time 100% paid by wikimedia foundation. no free software development. created even articles, an example: * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cafe_Qahwa sunil abraham. no edits.

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Wikimedia India Program Trust

2011-11-11 Thread rupert THURNER
the practical difference seems to be the experience On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 07:44, Liam Wyatt wrote: > Hi Hisham, > Interesting development :-) > > My question is with regards to the relationship of the new trust to the > existing India Chapter. The purpose of the trust (as defined as "The > obj

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia India Program Trust

2011-11-11 Thread rupert THURNER
On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 09:28, Hisham wrote: > > > On Nov 11, 2011, at 12:14 PM, Liam Wyatt wrote: > > > > > My question is with regards to the relationship of the new trust to the > > existing India Chapter. The purpose of the trust (as defined as "The > > objective of the Trust is to promote th

Re: [Foundation-l] Letter to the community on Controversial Content

2011-10-09 Thread rupert THURNER
On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 14:55, Ting Chen wrote: > Dear Wikimedia community, > > First, I want to thank the 24,000 editors who participated in the > Wikimedia Foundation's referendum on the proposed personal image hiding > feature. We are particularly grateful to the nearly seven thousand > people w

Re: [Foundation-l] Personal Image Filter - Gender?

2011-09-17 Thread rupert THURNER
do you propose questions like the following? knowledge level  o a-level o university o... race                    o african   o cacausian o... gender                o female   o male o... main wikipedia    o de  o en o fr ... to see if there are other gaps as well than gender

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Draft Terms of Use for Review

2011-09-08 Thread rupert THURNER
On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 01:48, Milos Rancic wrote: > On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 00:18, Theo10011 wrote: >>>    - Harassment, threats, stalking, vandalism, and other long-term issues: >>> The proposed agreement would make clear that such acts are prohibited. >>>     Novel for us, the agreement also ra

Re: [Foundation-l] The systematic and codified bias against non-Western articles on Wikinews

2011-09-05 Thread rupert THURNER
yes! and the rating of articles would then allow to drop all other quality gates in place On Sep 6, 2011 7:27 AM, "Samuel Klein" wrote: ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/l

Re: [Foundation-l] The systematic and codified bias against non-Western articles on Wikinews

2011-09-05 Thread rupert THURNER
can I vote for you as reviewer? On Sep 6, 2011 6:55 AM, "Shii" wrote: ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Personal Image Filter results announced

2011-09-04 Thread rupert THURNER
starting from "is there a tool" has some truth :) if there would be an itch, somebody would scratch it. if there is a real need a tool would exist written by somebody. and if somebody really feels to use such a tool, this person would switch it on. because, contrary to a mediawiki parser and wysiw

Re: [Foundation-l] Personal Image Filter results announced

2011-09-04 Thread rupert THURNER
On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 22:22, David Gerard wrote: > On 4 September 2011 21:20, rupert THURNER wrote: > >> swastikas are not problem, but scorpions seem to be recently, haha: >> * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgin_Killer >> * http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgin_Killer

Re: [Foundation-l] Personal Image Filter results announced

2011-09-04 Thread rupert THURNER
On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 21:42, Thomas Dalton wrote: > On 4 September 2011 20:11, church.of.emacs.ml > wrote: >> On 09/04/2011 07:43 PM, Kim Bruning wrote: >>> Assuming that the .de community is similar to the wikimedia community at >>> large […] >> >> That is where I disagree. The personal image f

Re: [Foundation-l] Chapters

2011-08-28 Thread rupert THURNER
On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 16:46, Risker wrote: > On 28 August 2011 04:47, rupert THURNER wrote: > >> 2011/8/28 Delphine Ménard : >> > On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 12:53 AM, Ray Saintonge >> wrote: >> > >> >> If the question is one of "minim

Re: [Foundation-l] Chapters

2011-08-28 Thread rupert THURNER
2011/8/28 Delphine Ménard : > On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 12:53 AM, Ray Saintonge wrote: > >> If the question is one of "minimum standards of accountability" the >> WMF's first obligation would be to publish the standards which it >> requires, presumably consistent with IFRS. Chapters incorporated wit

[Foundation-l] help openstreetmap to translate their license ...

2011-08-21 Thread rupert THURNER
hi, openstreetmap tries to switch to a new license: http://opendatacommons.org/licenses/odbl/ one of the disadvantages of the license is that it does not exist e.g. in german. what is the best strategy to get it in german as well? i am asking because in switzerland 1% of the swiss osm data was pr

Re: [Foundation-l] Chapters

2011-08-11 Thread rupert THURNER
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 14:53, Jimmy Wales wrote: > On 8/10/11 8:56 PM, Kirill Lokshin wrote: >> Perhaps I'm missing something, but where has it been suggested that chapters >> would not remain free to raise funds independently of the WMF?  My >> impression was that the change being discussed here

Re: [Foundation-l] Simple Wikipedia: different projects

2011-06-24 Thread rupert THURNER
what could be done to get wikipedia for different age groups off the ground? would there be a possibility to get pilot space? On Jun 24, 2011 11:55 AM, "Ray Saintonge" wrote: On 06/23/11 1:30 PM, rupert THURNER wrote: > people working at teacher schools in switzerland approa..

Re: [Foundation-l] Simple Wikipedia: different projects

2011-06-23 Thread rupert THURNER
people working at teacher schools in switzerland approached us a couple of times to push into a direction of *having wikipedia for different age groups *. first discussed ideas included the *groups **kids, junior, standard, *and * expert*. this would mean maximum four times as many articles, nicely