Re: [Foundation-l] Free culture?

> Those sound like typical problems with external links on > Wikipedia, not anything specific to Wikia. It's a shame that > there isn't an easy way to only see the links in the article > namespace, though, as that might make this list of links > somewhat more useful (and a lot smaller)... Is this

Re: [Foundation-l] Free culture?

> Given that the person making these > criticisms is aware of this distinction (I could be wrong. Perhaps his > whole argument premises on the point that the WMF should be a content > provider, rather than a host), his continual attacks on the content don't > appear to consistent and give the appe

Re: [Foundation-l] Free culture?

> Nice summary/overview... > >> 10% news/events/media coverage >> 10% pointless digressions >> 10% snarky comments >> 10% trolling >> 10% uncritical discussion of WMF >> 50% sharp criticism > > I wonder what percentage of the sharp criticism gets dealt with? > Would it make sense to keep track of t

Re: [Foundation-l] Free culture?

Nice summary/overview... > 10% news/events/media coverage > 10% pointless digressions > 10% snarky comments > 10% trolling > 10% uncritical discussion of WMF > 50% sharp criticism I wonder what percentage of the sharp criticism gets dealt with? Would it make sense to keep track of that statistic?

Re: [Foundation-l] Free culture?

On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 7:07 AM, Fred Bauder wrote: > > > Just to point out...saying "it's a content issue, not a Foundation issue" > > means absolutely *nothing* to the vast majority of people out there. > > > > -Chad > > Yes, definitely Inside Baseball: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inside_bas

Re: [Foundation-l] Free culture?

> On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Ryan Kaldari > wrote: >> And that's just one of many sections erroneously blaming the WMF for >> content issues. For example, "A WikiProject of topic lists has existed >> since November 2007, but it is still half unfinished" and "the 100 >> articles about the hun

Re: [Foundation-l] Free culture?

On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Ryan Kaldari wrote: > And that's just one of many sections erroneously blaming the WMF for > content issues. For example, "A WikiProject of topic lists has existed > since November 2007, but it is still half unfinished" and "the 100 > articles about the hundred Uni

Re: [Foundation-l] Free culture?

That page is so full of misinformation, it hardly warrants commentary, but just to point out some more annoying examples: The part about how "Your non-profit donation will ultimately line the for-profit pockets of Jimmy Wales, Amazon, Google" is absurd and very misleading. Sure, Wikipedia exter

Re: [Foundation-l] Free culture?

On 19 Oct 2010, at 19:06, Mike Dupont wrote: > On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 7:51 PM, Michael Peel wrote: >> >> On 19 Oct 2010, at 18:44, Mike Dupont wrote: >> I don't think we gain anything by providing a platform for Kohs campaign, as illustrated at http://www.mywikibiz.com/Top_10_R

Re: [Foundation-l] Free culture?

On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 7:51 PM, Michael Peel wrote: > > On 19 Oct 2010, at 18:44, Mike Dupont wrote: > >>> I don't think we gain anything by providing a platform for Kohs campaign, >>> as illustrated at >>> http://www.mywikibiz.com/Top_10_Reasons_Not_to_Donate_to_Wikipedia >>> against Wikipedia.

Re: [Foundation-l] Free culture?

On 19 Oct 2010, at 18:44, Mike Dupont wrote: >> I don't think we gain anything by providing a platform for Kohs campaign, >> as illustrated at >> http://www.mywikibiz.com/Top_10_Reasons_Not_to_Donate_to_Wikipedia >> against Wikipedia. > > Wow, this is very well written and interesting! please sh

Re: [Foundation-l] Free culture?

> I don't think we gain anything by providing a platform for Kohs campaign, > as illustrated at > http://www.mywikibiz.com/Top_10_Reasons_Not_to_Donate_to_Wikipedia > against Wikipedia. Wow, this is very well written and interesting! please share more such information. ___

Re: [Foundation-l] Free culture?

On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 3:21 PM, Ryan Kaldari wrote: > I don't think we're in danger of outlawing sharp criticism on > Foundation-l. If I had to give a guesstimate of the content breakdown of > Foundation-l traffic, it would look something like: > > 10% news/events/media coverage > 10% pointless d

Re: [Foundation-l] Free culture?

> This isn't why Peter was moderated, is it? > > Frank > The folks who control the list: foundation-l list run by adhair at gmail.com, wiki.ral315 at gmail.com, alexandrdmitriromanov at gmail.com didn't say much. Kohs has a big anti campaign in progress, but all I can find about Peter Damain is b

Re: [Foundation-l] Free culture?

This isn't why Peter was moderated, is it? Frank On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Fred Bauder wrote: > Peter Damian, it turns out has a blog, "Beyond Necessity" and has > commented on our banning and moderating activities: > > http://ocham.blogspot.com/2010/10/free-culture.html > > Surely he

Re: [Foundation-l] Free culture?

I don't think we're in danger of outlawing sharp criticism on Foundation-l. If I had to give a guesstimate of the content breakdown of Foundation-l traffic, it would look something like: 10% news/events/media coverage 10% pointless digressions 10% snarky comments 10% trolling 10% uncritical disc

Re: [Foundation-l] Free culture?

> Funny how Peter's blog complaining about moderation is itself moderated > by Peter. > > Ryan Kaldari That is not significant. The kind of stuff random vandals post has to be moderated. The question is whether sharp criticism is approved for posting. Fred __

Re: [Foundation-l] Free culture?

Funny how Peter's blog complaining about moderation is itself moderated by Peter. Ryan Kaldari On 10/18/10 9:37 AM, Fred Bauder wrote: > Peter Damian, it turns out has a blog, "Beyond Necessity" and has > commented on our banning and moderating activities: > > http://ocham.blogspot.com/2010/10/f

[Foundation-l] Free culture?

Peter Damian, it turns out has a blog, "Beyond Necessity" and has commented on our banning and moderating activities: http://ocham.blogspot.com/2010/10/free-culture.html Surely he exaggerates, and mere "negative comments" would not cause his posts to be withheld. I don't think we gain anything b

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