Re: [Foundation-l] We need more information (was: Blog from Sue about ...)

2011-10-05 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
The problem with the whole Censorship or not debate is... People want "Just slightly pregnant, but not really.." And the problem there is, either you are pregnant, or ya ain't. There isn't a "slightly" variant to pregnancy. -- -- Jussi-Ville Heiskanen, ~ [[User:Cimon Avaro]] ___

Re: [Foundation-l] We need more information (was: Blog from Sue about ...)

2011-10-01 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 5:34 AM, Lodewijk wrote: > (not responding to anyone in particular) I'm one of the people who tried to > participate in the discussion without taking a strong standpoint > (intentionally - because I'm quite nuanced on the issue, and open for good > arguments of either side)

Re: [Foundation-l] We need more information (was: Blog from Sue about ...)

2011-10-01 Thread Ray Saintonge
On 09/30/11 3:34 AM, Lodewijk wrote: > One final remark: I couldn't help but laugh a little when I read somewhere > that we are the experts, and we are making decisions for our readers - and > that these readers should have to take that whole complete story, because > what else is the use of having

Re: [Foundation-l] We need more information (was: Blog from Sue about ...)

2011-09-30 Thread Kim Bruning
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 08:47:43PM +0530, Bishakha Datta wrote: > On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Lodewijk wrote: > "24,023 people responded to that question, with 23,754 selecting a number on > the scale. The result was mildly in favour of the filter, with an average > response of 5.7 and a medi

Re: [Foundation-l] We need more information (was: Blog from Sue about ...)

2011-09-30 Thread Kim Bruning
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 08:36:43PM +0530, Bishakha Datta wrote: > On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Lodewijk wrote: > **I am also dismayed at the use of the word 'censorship' in the context of a > software feature that does not ban or block any images. But somehow there > doesn't seem to be any othe

Re: [Foundation-l] We need more information (was: Blog from Sue about ...)

2011-09-30 Thread Tobias Oelgarte
Am 30.09.2011 17:06, schrieb Bishakha Datta: > ... > **I am also dismayed at the use of the word 'censorship' in the context of a > software feature that does not ban or block any images. But somehow there > doesn't seem to be any other paradigm or language to turn to, and this is > what is used as

Re: [Foundation-l] We need more information (was: Blog from Sue about ...)

2011-09-30 Thread Michel Vuijlsteke
On 30 September 2011 17:17, Bishakha Datta wrote: > As per Sue's report to the Board, which Erik referred to [1]: > "The referendum did not directly ask whether respondents supported the idea > of the filter. It did ask this question: > > *On a scale of 0 to 10, if 0 is strongly opposed, 5 is neu

Re: [Foundation-l] We need more information (was: Blog from Sue about ...)

2011-09-30 Thread Bishakha Datta
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Lodewijk wrote: > > Hoping for a constructive discussion and more data on what our 'readers' > actually want and/or need... > > Also, while we don't have reader data, we do have more than 20,000 answers to the referendum or survey or whatever it should accurately b

Re: [Foundation-l] We need more information (was: Blog from Sue about ...)

2011-09-30 Thread Bishakha Datta
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Lodewijk wrote: > (not responding to anyone in particular) I'm one of the people who tried to > participate in the discussion without taking a strong standpoint > (intentionally - because I'm quite nuanced on the issue, and open for good > arguments of either side)

[Foundation-l] We need more information (was: Blog from Sue about ...)

2011-09-30 Thread Lodewijk
(not responding to anyone in particular) I'm one of the people who tried to participate in the discussion without taking a strong standpoint (intentionally - because I'm quite nuanced on the issue, and open for good arguments of either side) and I have to fully agree with Ryan. I have yet been unab