Re: [Foundation-l] the use of foundation-l

2009-11-08 Thread David Gerard
2009/11/8 : > The reason I asked for no personal attacks is because the above, by you, > sounds very much like : "You are the problem.  You are a problem." Actually, you are the problem. Your posts to foundation-l of late have pretty much entirely been self-aggrandising noise and the meta-issue

Re: [Foundation-l] the use of foundation-l

2009-11-08 Thread WJhonson
In a message dated 11/8/2009 2:06:47 AM Pacific Standard Time, gerard.meijs...@gmail.com writes: > Your notion that you "deserve" at least as much room to experiment as the > worst of us is a fallacy. You have been made aware that there is an issue > and that relevant people refuse to post on th

Re: [Foundation-l] the use of foundation-l

2009-11-08 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, This was not meant as an attack. What I intended to do is rebut your arguments. When this is considered as a personal attack, it means that it is not possible to respond to you and reply to your arguments. Thanks, GerardM 2009/11/8 > In a message dated 11/8/2009 2:06:47 AM Pacific Stan

Re: [Foundation-l] the use of foundation-l

2009-11-08 Thread WJhonson
In a message dated 11/8/2009 2:06:47 AM Pacific Standard Time, gerard.meijs...@gmail.com writes: > When you learn from your research that we have a problem, you only > confirm > what is already known. The only question I have is, will this make a > difference to you?>> No personal attacks Gera

Re: [Foundation-l] the use of foundation-l

2009-11-08 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Please do your research.. but do not expect that people did not look at the numbers before. So the person that most needs to be convinced is yourself. Your notion that you "deserve" at least as much room to experiment as the worst of us is a fallacy. You have been made aware that there is an

Re: [Foundation-l] the use of foundation-l

2009-11-08 Thread Fajro
On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 5:13 AM, wrote: > Is there a way to create a chart showing how many messages each poster has > posted to the list?  Also Gerard I think if you're going to use an argument > about the value of those people who *aren't* posting, we need to know who > they are.  Perhaps we do

Re: [Foundation-l] the use of foundation-l

2009-11-08 Thread WJhonson
I will in the next few days, create a list which shows who, each month, has posted the most messages to the list. Or perhaps the top few. I was surprised, seeing the statistics page, at how few active participants there are. Really just a handful, and it's been that way, for quite a long tim

Re: [Foundation-l] the use of foundation-l

2009-11-08 Thread Mark Williamson
Gerard may post quite a bit, but in general his posts serve a purpose. Many people on this list seem to write just to see their words, that is to say, they seem repeat information and attempt to reply to every e-mail. This is not constructive and it is not conducive to the expansion of knowledge.

Re: [Foundation-l] the use of foundation-l

2009-11-08 Thread WJhonson
In a message dated 11/8/2009 12:30:05 AM Pacific Standard Time, gerard.meijs...@gmail.com writes: > Now if you think that you need to > pass judgement on this, you have a self centred world. That is very much > part of the issue. The issue is that the context of the issue IS clear > from > my o

Re: [Foundation-l] the use of foundation-l

2009-11-08 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, If you want statistics, you do not have to google ... there are our own statistics ... http://www.infodisiac.com/Wikipedia/ScanMail/_PowerPosters.html I am a power poster and that often does not feel good. However, it is beside the point. I am on a conference and it is from people who are ess

Re: [Foundation-l] the use of foundation-l

2009-11-08 Thread Mark Williamson
There is already a statistics page, http://www.infodisiac.com/Wikipedia/ScanMail/Index.html skype: node.ue On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 1:13 AM, wrote: > In a message dated 11/7/2009 11:28:13 PM Pacific Standard Time, > gerard.meijs...@gmail.com writes: > > > > Please read it as an appeal to reply to

Re: [Foundation-l] the use of foundation-l

2009-11-08 Thread WJhonson
In a message dated 11/7/2009 11:28:13 PM Pacific Standard Time, gerard.meijs...@gmail.com writes: > Please read it as an appeal to reply to foundation-l in moderation. > Please > read it as an appeal to post liberally to this list as we do not have an > alternative.>> > --- > >

[Foundation-l] the use of foundation-l

2009-11-07 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I am at the Commons usability conference in Paris. I am not on any internal mailing lists. It has become painfully obvious that as a consequence of a refusal to any longer post on the foundation-l by several people present at this conference, the use of foundation-l has been severely diminishe