Re: foundation-list Digest, Vol 68, Issue 13

2009-12-12 Thread Lefty (石鏡 )
On 12/12/09 1:49 PM, "Brian Cameron" wrote: > > However, since this problem seems to really happen only on rare > occasion, and since it does not seem that any non-free organizations > are really trying to use GNOME Planet to do any real advertising, > then perhaps a disclaimer link to highlight

Re: Code of Conduct and Foundation membership

2009-12-12 Thread Lefty (石鏡 )
On 12/12/09 5:33 AM, "Richard Stallman" wrote: > > What happened there is that some people misunderstood a joke in my > speech, and others mistakenly accused me of intentionally disparaging > people. I personally find it telling that you somehow managed to find it within yourself to provide an a

Re: Code of Conduct and Foundation membership

2009-12-12 Thread Lefty (石鏡 )
On 12/12/09 5:34 AM, "Richard Stallman" wrote: > > I think GNOME activities should not grant legitimacy to non-free > software. You're entitled to your opinion, but not to impose it on unwilling others. > This is a minimal form of support for the cause of software > users' freedom -- minimal in

Re: foundation-list Digest, Vol 68, Issue 13

2009-12-12 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
Em 12-12-2009 11:31, Philip Van Hoof escreveu: On Sat, 2009-12-12 at 09:51 +, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: I have a personal blog and when I asked planet.openmoko.org to add my posts, I gave them the RSS feed corresponding to posts under the tag OpenMoko. Perhaps it would be a simpler sug

Re: Code of Conduct and Foundation membership

2009-12-12 Thread Richard Stallman
We _were_ attempting to finalize a Code of Conduct which could be provided to speakers, in the hope of avoiding future instances of the sort of "harmless fun" we experienced during Mr. Stallman's keynote at the Gran Canaria Desktop Summit, as I recall. What happened there is that s

Re: Code of Conduct and Foundation membership

2009-12-12 Thread Richard Stallman
I believe Stormy was quite clear and on point: It sounded to me as though she were arguing against the sort of "prior restraint" that you seem to be attempting to impose here. I think GNOME activities should not grant legitimacy to non-free software. This is a minimal form of support

Re: Code of Conduct and Foundation membership

2009-12-12 Thread Richard Stallman
Is GNOME part of any anti-proprietary software movement? that terminology didn't come from me. I would rather describe what we are doing in positive terms: GNOME is part of the free software movement, which strives to give users freedom. I don't think so and I've never seen it like that.

Re: Code of Conduct and Foundation membership

2009-12-12 Thread Richard Stallman
Gnome supports both the free software movement as well as proprietary developers, and that is why Gnome for years has encouraged the use of the LGPL license for all of its libraries. The decision you and I made, in the early days, was to use the LGPL for the more basic and general libr

Re: foundation-list Digest, Vol 68, Issue 13

2009-12-12 Thread Brian Cameron
Philip: On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 12:20:50 -0600 Brian Cameron wrote: Richard's suggestion that a "mild approach" may be appropriate does not seem over-the-top to me. Perhaps a "mild approach" could be something simple like a disclaimer on planet... I don't think Richard is suggesting that as "m

Re: foundation-list Digest, Vol 68, Issue 13

2009-12-12 Thread Johannes Schmid
Hi! > I have a personal blog and when I asked planet.openmoko.org to add my > posts, I gave them the RSS feed corresponding to posts under the tag > OpenMoko. > > Perhaps it would be a simpler suggestion to pass on the aggregated > bloggers that after date X only posts with the tag GNOME will

Re: foundation-list Digest, Vol 68, Issue 13

2009-12-12 Thread Philip Van Hoof
(I'm replying the two of you at the same time in an attempt at reducing the thread's size) On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 12:20:50 -0600 Brian Cameron wrote: > Richard's suggestion that a "mild approach" may be appropriate does > not seem over-the-top to me. Perhaps a "mild approach" could be > something s

Re: foundation-list Digest, Vol 68, Issue 13

2009-12-12 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
Em 11-12-2009 18:20, Brian Cameron escreveu: If there is enough people to do a vote, that's great. My vote: -1 I do not think that people should be discouraged from suggesting rules for the GNOME community, and a reaction like leaving the GNU community because Richard made a suggestion could b