Re: GNOME now

2012-11-27 Thread Jeremy Bicha
On 27 November 2012 19:51, Richard Stallman wrote: > When what you're really talking about is GNU, please don't call it > "Linux" -- particularly in the context of a GNU activity such as this > ne. We started GNOME so that GNU/Linux would have a 100% free > software desktop environment, which is

Re: GNOME now

2012-11-27 Thread Jeremy Allison
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 5:15 PM, Liam R E Quin wrote: > On Tue, 2012-11-27 at 17:06 -0800, Jeremy Allison wrote: >> Is the GNU system for programmers only ? I doubt that is what you >> mean. > > I'm sure it isn't. I know :-), I'm just pointing out that's what it looked like. > The software for

Re: GNOME now

2012-11-27 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Tue, 2012-11-27 at 17:06 -0800, Jeremy Allison wrote: > On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 4:51 PM, Richard Stallman wrote: > > > GNU/Linux is mostly used on PCs, but we want it to be used on tablets > > and phones too. Thus, making GNOME work well on those machines is > > useful. However, until the da

Re: GNOME now

2012-11-27 Thread Jeremy Allison
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 4:51 PM, Richard Stallman wrote: > GNU/Linux is mostly used on PCs, but we want it to be used on tablets > and phones too. Thus, making GNOME work well on those machines is > useful. However, until the day people prefer to do programming on a > tablet, the desktop will r

Re: GNOME now

2012-11-27 Thread Richard Stallman
I'm not talking about Linux versus Windows, Linux and Windows are not comparable: Windows is a complete operating system, but Linux is just a kernel. I think you must have in mind the rivalry between Windows and the GNU/Linux system. When what you're really talking about is GNU, please d

Re: GNOME now

2012-11-27 Thread Stormy Peters
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 3:15 AM, Stormy Peters wrote: > > * The desktop market is not growing. We can continue to define ourselves > as a desktop but that's not a growing market. I'm not talking about Linux > versus Windows, I'm talking about desktop vs mobile. The average computer > user in the d

Re: GNOME now

2012-11-27 Thread Stormy Peters
I enjoyed reading everyone's responses. And while I agree with Jason that a mailing list is not the best way to reach a proposal and consensus, I do think it's really important for us to have this discussion as a project and for everyone to be able to follow along. I just have a few thoughts I'd