Re: projects-old.gnome.org being discontinued

2018-12-06 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Thu, 2018-12-06 at 22:42 +0100, Andrea Veri wrote: > . Do you see any value in > keeping those URLs around even if they're historical and not relevant > since several years? There's intertwined questions here... * the old URLs should continue to resolve to useful resources, even if they are not

Re: projects-old.gnome.org being discontinued

2018-12-06 Thread Liam R E Quin
to a new mechanism would make the most sense. As i said, there's lots of links to projects-old.gnome.org. Liam > > cheers, > Il giorno mer 5 dic 2018 alle ore 21:10 Liam R E Quin > ha scritto: > > On Wed, 2018-12-05 at 11:22 +0100, Andrea Veri wrote: > > > Hey,

Re: projects-old.gnome.org being discontinued

2018-12-05 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Wed, 2018-12-05 at 11:22 +0100, Andrea Veri wrote: > Hey, > > the projects-old website [1] was decided to be left around in 2013 > right after transitioning projects pages to the GNOME's wiki > (projects.g.o is a vhost that contains a set of redirects since then) i think you mean projects.gnom

Re: Appeal for changes to GNOME [was: My Letter to Withdraw Membership from the GNOME Foundation]

2018-03-18 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Sun, 2018-03-18 at 16:46 +0800, Tong Hui wrote: > Good news that you stay with us! Yes our goal is solving problem, not > just leave them there and withdrawing. Sorry that I modify your > subject. Yes, I was very pleased to see the second letter. It takes strength to apologise in public in that

Re: Code of Conduct Adoption Process

2016-09-13 Thread Liam R. E. Quin
On Mon, 2016-09-12 at 12:07 -0700, Nuritzi Sanchez wrote: >  proposing to draw up a standard code of conduct for GNOME events. You could maybe start with the libregraphicsmeeting.org policy, http://libregraphicsmeeting.org/lgm/public-documentation/code-of-conduc t/ Liam -- Liam R. E. Quin

Re: Question to candidates: Best use of Trademark Fundraiser money?

2015-05-27 Thread Liam R. E. Quin
://tcattorney.typepad.com/ip/2011/05/trademark-infringement-lawsuits.html -- Liam R. E. Quin http://www.fromoldbooks.org/ ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list

Re: GNOME and Ubuntu GNOME

2014-09-28 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 08:57:19 -0500 Michael Catanzaro wrote: > [...] Whereas the versions of your > applications can probably vary without TOO much trouble, you should only > ever update core components like gnome-shell, gnome-settings-daemon, and > gnome-control-center at the same time. gnome-twea

Re: Current state of Foundation finances, upgrade internal systems and controls...

2014-04-15 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Tue, 2014-04-15 at 21:20 -0400, Alxndr G.S. wrote: > Yes, I > understand the need to use free-software in everything, but for something > as vital as financial management can't you just make an exception? If you say this, you don't understand :-) The more important something is, the more impo

Re: Proposal: DNS change irc.gnome.org becomes A record and irc.gimpnet.org starts getting phased out.

2013-05-10 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Sat, 2013-05-11 at 01:27 +0900, Tristan Van Berkom wrote: > Would you like to join a community where everything you say is > under strict scrutiny ? where you cannot freely express yourself > in your blog without being really careful to make all of your comments > "gender neutral" and political

Re: Proposal: DNS change irc.gnome.org becomes A record and irc.gimpnet.org starts getting phased out.

2013-05-09 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Thu, 2013-05-09 at 13:28 -0500, meg ford wrote: > As a native English speaker I can verify that the term it is indeed a > problem. The GIMP, however, is widely used by people I know who don't even > know what Free Software is. Changing its name could have pretty negative > consequences for thei

Re: Proposal: DNS change irc.gnome.org becomes A record and irc.gimpnet.org starts getting phased out.

2013-05-08 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Wed, 2013-05-08 at 10:53 -0700, Germán Póo-Caamaño wrote: > Although, GIMP is an acronym I was not aware that connotation of gimp > (as a non-English speaker I am not aware of many words either). It's offensive enough that I can't easily talk about it in a work context, which is unfortunate as

Re: Proposal: DNS change irc.gnome.org becomes A record and irc.gimpnet.org starts getting phased out.

2013-05-08 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Wed, 2013-05-08 at 10:02 -0700, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: > We are looking into changing our irc server name from irc.gimpnet.org to > irc.gnome.org and looking for feedback. I think it's a good idea and support it. Liam -- Liam Quin - XML Activity Lead, W3C, http://www.w3.org/People/Quin/ Pi

Re: Want to review a book about GNOME 3?

2013-03-23 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Thu, 2013-03-07 at 23:35 +0200, alex diavatis wrote: > I was wondering if you have to encouraging anyone to buy a book about GNOME > from anywhere, and not just Amazon. > There are so many people that work without a profit, why you should promote > something "sell-able" only? Free (no price) i

Re: GNOME now

2012-11-27 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Tue, 2012-11-27 at 17:06 -0800, Jeremy Allison wrote: > On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 4:51 PM, Richard Stallman wrote: > > > GNU/Linux is mostly used on PCs, but we want it to be used on tablets > > and phones too. Thus, making GNOME work well on those machines is > > useful. However, until the da

Re: GNOME now

2012-11-20 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Tue, 2012-11-20 at 13:38 -0500, Emily Gonyer wrote: > Why not just include an "About GNOME" section in System Settings It would be a start, but some down sides might be - . administrators locking away access to "about gnome" . people not thinking to look in a configuration tool for information

Re: GNOME now

2012-11-20 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Tue, 2012-11-20 at 09:44 -0800, Lefty wrote: > Mr. Stallman thinks [...] Please let's not have personal attacks on the foundation list. The GPL does not prohibit making money; it seeks to prohibit people from profiting by withholding knowledge from others. Let's get back to the questions of

Re: GNOME now

2012-11-20 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Tue, 2012-11-20 at 11:38 -0500, Richard Stallman wrote: > It is a fact that many people use DRM schemes, but that gives them no > legitimacy. We are trying to convince people to reject them. We MUST > try, not only because DRM denies the users long-established freedoms, > but also because the

new people [was: Re: Og Maciel left the GNOME Foundation Membership Committee]

2012-11-16 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Fri, 2012-11-16 at 15:57 +0100, Andrea Veri wrote: > The GNOME Foundation Membership Committee is welcoming two new members: > > - Federico Mena Quintero > - Fabiana Pedreira Simoes Congratulations, thank you, and welcome to both of you! Liam -- Liam Quin - XML Activity Lead, W3C, http://w

Re: GNOME now

2012-11-15 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Wed, 2012-11-14 at 18:26 -0600, Brian Cameron wrote: > this advanced > UNIX-hacker type does not seem to be the primary user GNOME is focusing > on anymore. An open source environment needs to attract four main types of people if it's going to remain viable - 1. programmers, to work on it 2. s

Re: Looking for community managers or enthusiasts!

2012-11-14 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Wed, 2012-11-14 at 11:38 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote: > On Tue, 2012-11-13 at 16:07 -0800, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: > > > > I'm looking for some charismatic, happy GNOME folks who can help > > engage with our community. This is a good idea, along with building up resources describing goals.

Re: A few observations about GIMPNET

2012-10-05 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Fri, 2012-10-05 at 09:21 -0400, Allan Day wrote: > It would be great to be able to run something like Bip [1] for GNOME IRC. Note, it's of course NOT OK to publish public logs of IRC channels (or any other discussion forum) unless ALL the participants understand that this will happen and agree

Re: A few observations about GIMPNET

2012-10-04 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Thu, 2012-10-04 at 18:02 -0700, Germán Póo-Caamaño wrote: [...] > FWIW, I would like us to have public IRC logs. But if a hacker (or > group of them) have privacy concern, we should not dismiss it because > IRC is already public. +1 We have public logged IRC channels at work, but... (1) people

Re: Questionnaire on motivation analysis of open source and open content

2012-02-23 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Thu, 2012-02-23 at 16:26 -0600, Bryen M Yunashko wrote: > [..] > Has anyone come up with a comprehensive list of > one-to-one functions of non-free services and free? This is the wrong way round. Don't want to imply, "if you like this wonderful proprietary solution, here's a libre one that's a

Re: Could a few influential GNOME develoers join gnu-prog-disc...@gnu.org?

2012-01-18 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Wed, 2012-01-18 at 17:32 -0500, Richard Stallman wrote: [...] > The standards made by POSIX, ISO and freedesktop.org are suggestions. > They carry some weight because users typically appreciate > compatibility with standards. But that's not the only thing users > appreciate, so a standard is no

Re: Readability publisher sign-up for *.gnome.org

2011-08-26 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Thu, 2011-08-25 at 17:57 +0100, Will Thompson wrote: > Hi, > > I've been experimenting with Readability > for a couple of months. It's a web service that reformats web pages for > easier reading, and—if you pay for it—maintains a TODO list of those > nicely-formatt

Re: Question for candidates

2011-06-06 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Wed, 2011-06-01 at 15:15 +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: [...] > What about translations, accessibility and other needs of minorities? > For big companies it's *impossible* to support those needs but for > community-developed software that's just what we do. Large companies often do work to address

Re: Question for candidates

2011-06-05 Thread Liam R E Quin
[resent from the right address, sorry] On Wed, 2011-06-01 at 15:15 +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: [...] > What about translations, accessibility and other needs of minorities? > For big companies it's *impossible* to support those needs but for > community-developed software that's just what we do. L

Re: Meeting Minutes Published - November 11, 2010

2010-12-20 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Thu, 2010-12-16 at 16:52 -0800, Fernando Herrera wrote: > On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 11:28 PM, Ben Konrath wrote: > > > The feedback I received was a similar story; the potential > > funders seemed only interested in an applications that would serve > > their users who primarily use Windows. Obvi

Accessibility liaisons [was: Re: Meeting Minutes Published - November 11, 2010]

2010-12-20 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Fri, 2010-12-17 at 18:32 +0100, Dave Neary wrote: > Hi, > > Juanjo Marin wrote: > > Is there already any page with a list organizations ? > > We can work it out in a dossier about what is GNOME and about a11y GNOME > > tecnologies. > > Not that I know of. I just started one in the wiki. > > h

Re: Non-Free JavaScript

2010-03-09 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Mon, 2010-03-08 at 22:18 -0500, Richard Stallman wrote: > Is that something we (W3C) should take up? I raised it on a W3C list [1] and we'll see if there is any traction. I'll also continue to bear it in mind. (it is not necessary at this time for people to send messages of support (or otherwi

Re: Non-Free JavaScript

2010-03-07 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Sun, 2010-03-07 at 21:50 +0100, Goran Rakic wrote: > Dana Ned, 7 Mart, 2010 21:32 , narendra sisodiya je napisao/ > > Every JavaScript Developer must be instructed to declare global > > variable (var LicenseInfo = [gplv3, mit] ) in their first line of > > JavaScript file. > > There is no standa

Non-Free JavaScript

2010-03-07 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Sat, 2010-03-06 at 05:29 -0500, Richard Stallman wrote: [...] > Javascript programs are not necessarily bad, but if browsers > temporarily install them silently without checking whether they are > free, that systematically leads users to run nonfree software without > knowing it. That raises

Re: Reboot: Strategic goals for GNOME

2010-03-04 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Thu, 2010-03-04 at 19:38 -0800, Lefty (石鏡 ) wrote: > On 3/4/10 6:08 PM, "Liam R E Quin" wrote: > > On Thu, 2010-03-04 at 17:45 -0800, Lefty (石鏡 ) wrote: > > > >> In any case, I'm under the impression that a search warrant or similar > >> o

Re: Reboot: Strategic goals for GNOME

2010-03-04 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Thu, 2010-03-04 at 17:45 -0800, Lefty (石鏡 ) wrote: > On 3/4/10 3:00 PM, "Richard Stallman" wrote: > > > > Let's not be in a rush to invite users to use servers -- even our own > > -- instead of their own computers. That is the wrong direction to go. [...] > I doubt that as many as 10% of the

Re: GTK Questions

2009-12-10 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Wed, 2009-12-02 at 09:27 -0700, TILLMAN, MICHAEL D9 wrote: [...] > We can’t go with something that is LESS responsive than our current > “X” applications written in C or C++, and we were wondering if GTK, > generally speaking, is comparable to compiled "X" applications in > response speeds and m

Re: please help me

2008-11-01 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 00:14 -0700, navid fk wrote: > it mean i want to use only GTKs libraries and some compilers not > visual IDE for GTK > > No-one is forcing you to use an IDE. E.g. gcc is fine. If you need more information you'd do better to ask on the gtk list rather than the foundation l

Re: Some Finnish thoughts of Guadec+aKademy 2009

2008-07-05 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Sat, 2008-07-05 at 20:30 +0300, Petri Räsänen wrote: [...] > As a final remark I believe that one factor in the decision making > process will be the message that will be read "between the lines" of > the decision. I can speak only speculatively and on behalf of our > proposal, but if the choice

Re: Call for hosts for GUADEC 2009

2008-04-23 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Tue, 2008-04-22 at 23:33 -0400, Clare So wrote: [...] > I agree with you, Behdad. There is no point in pushing for Canada. When we had a W3C advisory committee meeting in Montreal in November some 3 years ago it was one of the better attended meetings we'd ever had (we = W3C). There is usuall

Re: Windows-only software in government

2008-03-02 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Thu, 2008-02-28 at 09:22 -0500, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak wrote: > One of the issues forcing me to keep a few MS Windows computer around in > my company are government services relying on Windows-only software, > like this example: > > http://www.statcan.ca/english/exports/download.htm > > My

Re: Re-considering expectnation web service

2008-01-01 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Mon, 2007-12-31 at 09:09 +0200, Quim Gil wrote: > (in Vilanova there was some discussion about using the soft developed > for the W3C activities but after some mails nothing happened at the > end. Do you have more details? We (W3C) don't (as far as I know) have software to do conference regis

Re: bounties?

2007-11-08 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Thu, 2007-11-08 at 11:53 +0100, Johannes Schmid wrote: [...] > Just a short note on the success of bounties. The Anjuta Project > (www.anjuta.org/tasks, list is not completely up-to-date) put bounties > of overall about 4000$ in place about two years ago. Only about half of > those have been wor

Re: Idea: GNOME event in Beijing 2008

2007-08-04 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Fri, 2007-08-03 at 23:40 +0300, Quim Gil wrote: > This is a call for volunteers and interested GNOME lovers in Beijing / > China / East Asia. Please forward to friends and contacts that might > be interested. The WWW 2008 conference will also be there - maybe it might be interesting to conside

Re: Regarding OOXML and Microsoft patents

2007-07-16 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Sat, 2007-07-14 at 17:50 -0400, Miguel de Icaza wrote: > If a long standard is part of an attack, we can use that for our own > purposes. In this case I suspect that the length of the standard is largely a consequence of the format being an XML serialization of the existing complex and wart-f

Re: Towards more collaboration between the academic world and the GNOME community

2007-04-24 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Wed, 2007-04-25 at 01:05 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote: [...] > Feedback is welcome, and volunteers will be cheered :-) I don't think I have enough time to earn a cheer, I've already used up all the time I save through not putting on shoes :-) You could consider a peer-reviewed track at guadec. A

Re: Special GNOME event in California next week

2007-04-14 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Sat, 2007-04-14 at 20:30 +0200, Quim Gil wrote: > If you are not into this topic you can probably wait these 5 days. :) I think in fact the people involved, especially Jeff, deserve to be applauded for letting people know ahead of time, even when they felt unable to disclose the details. Jeff

Re: GNOME Local user groups

2006-08-19 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Mon, 2006-08-14 at 10:51 +0200, Rodrigo Moya wrote: > On Fri, 2006-08-11 at 14:12 +0200, Quim Gil wrote: > > El dv 11 de 08 del 2006 a les 13:46 +0200, en/na Rodrigo Moya va > > escriure: > > > > My question is: how we can have marketing materials easily? > > > that is also my question :) > >

Re: Code Of Conduct

2006-06-01 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Thu, 2006-06-01 at 13:23 +0200, Anne Østergaard wrote: [...] > I have personally had the feeling over the past couple of years that the > general atmosphere in the GNOME community has hardened. Although I am not sure what you mean by hardened here, it doesn't sound good. > I fully agree with Bi

Re: GNOME strongly supports open standards including OpenDocument Format

2005-12-15 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Thu, 2005-12-15 at 18:27 +0100, Thomas Vander Stichele wrote: [...] > For example, people still feel that by default GNOME should ship with > stuff that makes it easy to encode to mp3 or rip CD's for their hardware > devices that do not support open formats; or that GNOME should play > DVD's. I

Re: Reducing the board size

2005-10-26 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Thu, 2005-10-27 at 13:49 +1300, Glynn Foster wrote: > On Thu, 2005-10-27 at 00:43 +0200, Jeff Waugh wrote: [...] > > Consensus and execution become crippling problems because no director has a > > responsibility to the organisation to push it forward (by either dropping an > > issue for that ter

Re: Reducing the board size

2005-10-26 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Thu, 2005-10-27 at 00:43 +0200, Jeff Waugh wrote: [...] > Consensus and execution become crippling problems because no director has a > responsibility to the organisation to push it forward (by either dropping an > issue for that term or executing it). Changing the number of people on the board

Re: Vote NO on referendum to reduce board members

2005-10-25 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Tue, 2005-10-25 at 09:45 +0200, Murray Cumming wrote: > [...] many of us notice that the large > size of the group causes irrelevant distraction, even when urgent > decisions are necessary. That happens even with the best people. I find it happens with teleconference consisting of only two or th

Re: foundation affiliations list/page?

2005-10-20 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Thu, 2005-10-20 at 16:31 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote: > > OSSI is the only thing I can think of offhand, though I know we at one > > point had a relationship with SPI, and I know there is at least one > > other I'm blanking on at the moment. For what it's worth, we could probably make the relati

Re: Petition for referendum

2005-09-29 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Thu, 2005-09-29 at 14:52 +0100, Bill Haneman wrote: > IMO the main Board problems are task assignment and delegation. > Reducing the size of the Board won't directly help delegation, and > reducing the available resources by having fewer Directors will only > worsen task assignment/completio

Re: Reducing the board size

2005-09-18 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Sat, 2005-09-17 at 19:00 -0400, Luis Villa wrote: > I have not had time to review the records, but I'm pretty sure that at > least two board members have taken zero action items all year, and a > couple have taken very few, and that this has been fairly consistent > every year I've been on the

Re: Changing the name of GUADEC

2005-09-06 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Tue, 2005-09-06 at 10:03 -0400, Miguel de Icaza wrote: > I would try to go for simple "Gnome Conference" or maybe "Gnome Conf". > I think that "GConf" is just being too cute. Agreed GConf isn't a good idea any more than OAF or BONOBO would be. A name change of a conference usually is done for

accessibility on slashdot

2005-06-02 Thread Liam R. E. Quin
http://ask.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/06/02/1256222&tid=185&tid=4 some gnomies might want to post on the status of Gnome here... Liam -- Liam Quin, W3C XML Activity Lead, http://www.w3.org/People/Quin Pictures from old books: http://www.holoweb.net/~liam/pictures/oldbooks/ IRC (chat) progra