> Op Sat, 12 May 2007, schreef Bisma Jayadi:
> There is nothing in this article we can consider, for starters because it
> does not contain any proposals.
Moreover it lacks a sense for magnitude. What can be saved in the sysutils
that is so dreaded by him is 40-80kb. (and then I really remove it.
Op Sat, 12 May 2007, schreef Marco van de Voort:
> > Op Sat, 12 May 2007, schreef Bisma Jayadi:
> > There is nothing in this article we can consider, for starters because it
> > does not contain any proposals.
> P.s. I also don't get the "64-bit" gaming speed remark. What does a game do
> with
> Op Sat, 12 May 2007, schreef Marco van de Voort:
> > P.s. I also don't get the "64-bit" gaming speed remark. What does a game do
> > with 64-bit? Load 4 GB of textures on startup?
>
> Games will be among the first end user applications that really need >
> 4GB. Commercial games currently releas
Marco van de Voort schrieb:
>> Op Sat, 12 May 2007, schreef Marco van de Voort:
>>> P.s. I also don't get the "64-bit" gaming speed remark. What does a game do
>>> with 64-bit? Load 4 GB of textures on startup?
>> Games will be among the first end user applications that really need >
>> 4GB. Comme
On Sat, 12 May 2007, Bisma Jayadi wrote:
> http://z505.com/cgi-bin/qkcont/qkcont.cgi?p=Might%20As%20Well%20Use%20Dot%20Net%20In%20Place%20of%20FPC
>
> Nicely put. ;) I've found it has good points on some arguments. It's good to
> be considered. :)
Yes, but the language used puts off some peopl
> There is nothing in this article we can consider, for starters because
> it does not contain any proposals.
It even tries to give directions on how to and how to not use a tool.
Normally a tool proves itself usefull by being usefull in some way for
someone. Now we got a ultraflexible, even cha
On 5/12/07, Bisma Jayadi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Nicely put. ;) I've found it has good points on some arguments. It's good to be
considered. :)
Everybody is entitled to their opinion. I am allowed mine and
totally disagree with his statement about GUI's not being used on any
other platfo
I agree with Graeme. There are professional developers out here who want
a decent cross platform product and who don't like the
C/++/#/Java/.net/etcetcetc because of various reasons. My own reasons
are that I find C(like) languages to be semantically weak and
encouraging of bad programmer behav
> Non trivial Delphi GUI apps also quickly rise to 1.5MB
lazarus may produce apps that are size comparable with those from the recent
versions of delphi but those are also megabloat compared to those produced by
the older versions of delphi.
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Nicely put. ;) I've found it has good points on some arguments. It's good to
be considered. :)
Yes, but the language used puts off some people.
Yup. Sometimes Lars sounds to aggresive. :-D
As far as I know, Lars is a FPC fan, and he merely wishes to express concern
about
some of the issues
> > it does not contain any proposals.
>
> "Everyone is able or limited to see only what he can imagine."
Helmut, till now, in this discussion I like your answer the best.
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> > Non trivial Delphi GUI apps also quickly rise to 1.5MB
> lazarus may produce apps that are size comparable with those from the
> recent versions of delphi but those are also megabloat compared to those
> produced by the older versions of delphi.
megabloat? A million times larger?
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> I agree with Graeme. There are professional developers out here who want
> a decent cross platform product and who don't like the
> C/++/#/Java/.net/etcetcetc because of various reasons. My own reasons
> are that I find C(like) languages to be semantically weak and
> encouraging of bad progra
On Sat, 12 May 2007 05:04:33 -0500, Michael Van Canneyt
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
As far as I know, Lars is a FPC fan, and he merely wishes to express
concern about
some of the issues he has with FPC (I'll leave the matter of whether his
concerns
are justified up to others to comment o
Hi,
Ok, you dragged me into responding this subject as well :)
While it might sound as such, this is not Windows vs Linux fight, only
a point of view for an ex Delphi developer, and a 5 years of Linux
users (as only OS).
On 5/12/07, Peter Popov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Sat, 12 May 2007 05:
A.s. I already deleted it, but quite some older apps break on Vista now.
Including e.g. Delphi 7. MS is also deviating from the compat path.
Unfortunately.
>i. Too many bugs in any official release. This is unavoidable,
> considering the many platforms and targets supported. But it is a fac
On Sat, 12 May 2007 15:40:49 -0500, ik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi,
Ok, you dragged me into responding this subject as well :)
While it might sound as such, this is not Windows vs Linux fight, only
a point of view for an ex Delphi developer, and a 5 years of Linux
users (as only OS).
Corre
Peter Popov wrote:
> > Yes. Failure of Delphi users to have any consensus about what is compiler
> > behaviour, and what is language behaviour. Every bit of behaviour that
> > Delphi exposes is considered gospel.
>
> That is true and is compounded by the fact that there is no ISO standard.
It
> As far as I know, Lars is a FPC fan, and he merely wishes to express concern
> about some of the issues he has with FPC
Yes I'm a fan.
It's not just the issues that I alone have with FPC since I'm not even an
embedded programmer
myself. I'm putting myself in their shoes. It isn't just me who i
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