Re: [fpc-devel] fpmkunit

2007-11-13 Thread Peter Vreman
> After reconsidering the -n option. It should depend on the "-f / > --config=" option. The --config and -n are indepdenent. The --config can be used to supply a configuration for fpmake. The -n is for the compiler configuration. >> I've been playing around with fpmake again and came to the con

Re: [fpc-devel] fpmkunit patch

2007-11-13 Thread Peter Vreman
> The following patch fixes a broken TTarget.Mode. Fixed using Delete() which is easier to read. Peter ___ fpc-devel maillist - fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/mailman/listinfo/fpc-devel

[fpc-devel] copyright infringement in FPC code

2007-11-13 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
For those that don't follow the Lazarus mailing list. It was brought to our attention by a ex-Borland employee (Steve Trefethen), that FPC contains some stolen code from Delphi. Especially Delphi 4 & 5. The full discussion can be read here... http://www.stevetrefethen.com/files/ppcomp.htm And

[fpc-devel] Re: copyright infringement in FPC code

2007-11-13 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
The software used between the Linux and Minix case was SIM. It seems to be quite cleaver software and hope we can use it too.. The software similarity tester SIM version 2.12 [ftp://ftp.cs.vu.nl/pub/dick/similarity_tester] was used for source code comparison. I got that information from this w

Re: [fpc-devel] copyright infringement in FPC code

2007-11-13 Thread Luiz Americo Pereira Camara
Daniël Mantione wrote: Op Tue, 13 Nov 2007, schreef Graeme Geldenhuys: For those that don't follow the Lazarus mailing list. It was brought to our attention by a ex-Borland employee (Steve Trefethen), that FPC contains some stolen code from Delphi. Especially Delphi 4 & 5. The full discussi

Re: [fpc-devel] copyright infringement in FPC code

2007-11-13 Thread Michael Schnell
I have heard that there is software that can do code comparisons to find infringements (I'm thinking of a article between Linux and Minix code). Anybody got such a program available so we can possibly do a automated comparison. I'll try and find out what was used to compare Minix and Linux cod

Re: [fpc-devel] copyright infringement in FPC code

2007-11-13 Thread Daniël Mantione
Op Tue, 13 Nov 2007, schreef Graeme Geldenhuys: > For those that don't follow the Lazarus mailing list. > It was brought to our attention by a ex-Borland employee (Steve > Trefethen), that FPC contains some stolen code from Delphi. Especially > Delphi 4 & 5. > > The full discussion can be read

Re: [fpc-devel] copyright infringement in FPC code

2007-11-13 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 13/11/2007, Florian Klaempfl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I wrote an answer. > The scary thing is, I used the tool mentioned earlier (sim_pasc) and did a few random tests on Lazarus code and Kylix 3 code. My god, there is a lot of similar code and no, I'm not talking about the class interfa

Re: [fpc-devel] copyright infringement in FPC code

2007-11-13 Thread Florian Klaempfl
Graeme Geldenhuys schrieb: > For those that don't follow the Lazarus mailing list. > It was brought to our attention by a ex-Borland employee (Steve > Trefethen), that FPC contains some stolen code from Delphi. Especially > Delphi 4 & 5. I wrote an answer. _

Re: [fpc-devel] fpmkunit

2007-11-13 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 09:21:36 +0100 (CET) "Peter Vreman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >[...] > >> fpc -n -FUunits\i386-win32\ -Fu..\..\src\ -Fuunits\i386-win32\* > >> myexample.pp > >> > >> 1. What strikes me is that the command line has the option -n in > >> it. It appears that this command line opt

Re: [fpc-devel] copyright infringement in FPC code

2007-11-13 Thread Bee
I wrote an answer. You (or other FPC core team members) should write a blog post about this and explain this situation in more complete description, instead write it as comment on someone's blog. This way, other people would see a better and more comprehensive responses from FPC side. That'

Re: [fpc-devel] copyright infringement in FPC code

2007-11-13 Thread Marco van de Voort
> > I have heard that there is software that can do code comparisons to > > find infringements (I'm thinking of a article between Linux and Minix > > code). Anybody got such a program available so we can possibly do a > > automated comparison. I'll try and find out what was used to compare > > Mi

Re: [fpc-devel] Re: copyright infringement in FPC code

2007-11-13 Thread Bee
The software used between the Linux and Minix case was SIM. It seems to be quite cleaver software and hope we can use it too.. Maybe we should start some kind of code legality check. Like what had been done by ReactOS a few months ago against Windows' code. This tool might helps us review FPC'

Re[2]: [fpc-devel] copyright infringement in FPC code

2007-11-13 Thread Пётр Косаревский
> > I wrote an answer. > You (or other FPC core team members) should write a blog post about this > and explain this situation in more complete description, instead write > it as comment on someone's blog. This way, other people would see a > better and more comprehensive responses from FPC side

Re: [fpc-devel] copyright infringement in FPC code

2007-11-13 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 13/11/2007, Graeme Geldenhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > there is a lot of similar code and no, I'm not talking about the class > interfaces (which are duplicated on purpose). I would like to apologize to the Lazarus developers. I jumped the gun a bit. I should have done a bit of RTFM befo

Re: [fpc-devel] fpmkunit

2007-11-13 Thread Peter Vreman
> On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 09:21:36 +0100 (CET) > "Peter Vreman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>[...] >> >> fpc -n -FUunits\i386-win32\ -Fu..\..\src\ -Fuunits\i386-win32\* >> >> myexample.pp >> >> >> >> 1. What strikes me is that the command line has the option -n in >> >> it. It appears that this comma

Re: [fpc-devel] fpmkunit

2007-11-13 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 13:28:47 +0100 (CET) "Peter Vreman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 09:21:36 +0100 (CET) > > "Peter Vreman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >>[...] > >> >> fpc -n -FUunits\i386-win32\ -Fu..\..\src\ -Fuunits\i386-win32\* > >> >> myexample.pp > >> >> > >> >> 1

Re: [fpc-devel] fpmkunit

2007-11-13 Thread dhkblaszyk
> On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 13:28:47 +0100 (CET) > "Peter Vreman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 09:21:36 +0100 (CET) >> > "Peter Vreman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> >>[...] >> >> >> fpc -n -FUunits\i386-win32\ -Fu..\..\src\ -Fuunits\i386-win32\* >> >> >> myexample.pp >> >>

Re: [fpc-devel] fpmkunit

2007-11-13 Thread Peter Vreman
>> On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 13:28:47 +0100 (CET) >> "Peter Vreman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> > On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 09:21:36 +0100 (CET) >>> > "Peter Vreman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> > >>> >>[...] >>> >> >> fpc -n -FUunits\i386-win32\ -Fu..\..\src\ -Fuunits\i386-win32\* >>> >> >> myexample.

Re: [fpc-devel] Re: copyright infringement in FPC code

2007-11-13 Thread Neil Graham
On Tue, 2007-11-13 at 18:10 +0700, Bee wrote: > Maybe we should start some kind of code legality check. Like what had > been done by ReactOS a few months ago against Windows' code. This tool > might helps us review FPC's and Lazarus' code against Delphi code (or > other as well?). Wouldn't it

Re: [fpc-devel] copyright infringement in FPC code

2007-11-13 Thread peter green
And a single code comparison can be seen here... FPC code is on the right. http://www.stevetrefethen.com/files/ppcomp.htm Reading the description carefully it seems like he has modified the delphi code to look more like the FPC code. In many cases two people trying to implement the same

Re: [fpc-devel] copyright infringement in FPC code

2007-11-13 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 13/11/2007, peter green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In many cases two people trying to implement the same relatively simple > behaviour will end up with code that differs in little more than > variable names and spacing without needing to copy. > What I found in Lazarus code so far was that

Re: [fpc-devel] copyright infringement in FPC code

2007-11-13 Thread ik
On Nov 13, 2007 10:51 PM, Graeme Geldenhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 13/11/2007, peter green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > In many cases two people trying to implement the same relatively simple > > behaviour will end up with code that differs in little more than > > variable names and

Re: [fpc-devel] copyright infringement in FPC code

2007-11-13 Thread Daniël Mantione
Op Tue, 13 Nov 2007, schreef Graeme Geldenhuys: > On 13/11/2007, peter green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > In many cases two people trying to implement the same relatively simple > > behaviour will end up with code that differs in little more than > > variable names and spacing without need

Re: [fpc-devel] copyright infringement in FPC code

2007-11-13 Thread Marc Weustink
ik wrote: On Nov 13, 2007 10:51 PM, Graeme Geldenhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [..] Good news is that that's where the similarity ends (well in the units I checked). Importantly, the method bodies seem to be implemented differently, except for the very elementary methods. What are the e

Re: [fpc-devel] copyright infringement in FPC code

2007-11-13 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 13/11/2007, ik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What are the elementary methods ? > A simple or very basic methods only two or three lines long. Something like a property Getter or Setter method. Regards, - Graeme - ___ fpGUI - a cross-platform Fre

Re: [fpc-devel] copyright infringement in FPC code

2007-11-13 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 22:59:50 +0200 ik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >[...] > > What I found in Lazarus code so far was that somebody _was_ peaking > > at the Delphi code at some stage. Yes. 1. Many pascal programmers have several years Delphi experience and are used to the Delphi coding style and

Re: [fpc-devel] copyright infringement in FPC code

2007-11-13 Thread Daniël Mantione
Op Tue, 13 Nov 2007, schreef Marc Weustink: > ik wrote: > > On Nov 13, 2007 10:51 PM, Graeme Geldenhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > [..] > > > > Good news is that that's where the similarity ends (well in the units > > > I checked). Importantly, the > > > method bodies seem to be implem

Re: [fpc-devel] copyright infringement in FPC code

2007-11-13 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 23:51:14 +0100 (CET) Daniël Mantione <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Op Tue, 13 Nov 2007, schreef Marc Weustink: > > > ik wrote: > > > On Nov 13, 2007 10:51 PM, Graeme Geldenhuys > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > [..] > > > > > > Good news is that that's where the

Re: [fpc-devel] copyright infringement in FPC code

2007-11-13 Thread Daniël Mantione
Op Wed, 14 Nov 2007, schreef Mattias Gaertner: > That's not the same and will crash since lazarus svn rev 12822. > Lazarus now uses the Delphi 'Assigned' trick for design time events > as default. > I hope this trick is not copyrighted or patented. Tricks cannot be copyrighted, and we live in s

Re: [fpc-devel] Re: copyright infringement in FPC code

2007-11-13 Thread Bee
It may mean an easy and acceptable solution. They may just say no. It's the very possibility since they think we're the 'bad' guys. ;) -Bee- has Bee.ography at: http://beeography.wordpress.com ___ fpc-devel maillist - fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.or