Re: [fpc-devel] FPC-JVM: Status report on Android

2011-09-01 Thread Sven Barth
On 01.09.2011 20:27, Jonas Maebe wrote: On 01 Sep 2011, at 00:02, Jonas Maebe wrote: On 31 Aug 2011, at 23:13, Sven Barth wrote: On 31.08.2011 22:59, Jonas Maebe wrote: I'll do a testsuite run to see whether I introduced any bugs in the string handling, but to test the Android stuff you c

Re: [fpc-devel] FPC-JVM: Status report on Android

2011-09-01 Thread Jonas Maebe
On 01 Sep 2011, at 00:02, Jonas Maebe wrote: > On 31 Aug 2011, at 23:13, Sven Barth wrote: > >> On 31.08.2011 22:59, Jonas Maebe wrote: >>> >>> I'll do a testsuite run to see whether I introduced any bugs in the string >>> handling, but to test the Android stuff you can also use a compiler >>

Re: [fpc-devel] Issue 20124: Error with static "direct field" properties

2011-09-01 Thread Jonas Maebe
On 01 Sep 2011, at 19:21, Alexander Klenin wrote: > On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 03:50, Jonas Maebe wrote: >> >> On 01 Sep 2011, at 18:42, Alexander Klenin wrote: >> >>> This leaves the first point, however. Why is it prohibited at all? >> >> I think because class properties have several limitation

Re: [fpc-devel] Issue 20124: Error with static "direct field" properties

2011-09-01 Thread Alexander Klenin
On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 03:50, Jonas Maebe wrote: > > On 01 Sep 2011, at 18:42, Alexander Klenin wrote: > >> This leaves the first point, however. Why is it prohibited at all? > > I think because class properties have several limitations that normal > properties do not have: > http://docwiki.emba

Re: [fpc-devel] Issue 20124: Error with static "direct field" properties

2011-09-01 Thread Jonas Maebe
On 01 Sep 2011, at 18:42, Alexander Klenin wrote: > This leaves the first point, however. Why is it prohibited at all? I think because class properties have several limitations that normal properties do not have: http://docwiki.embarcadero.com/RADStudio/en/Properties#Class_Properties Jonas__

Re: [fpc-devel] Issue 20124: Error with static "direct field" properties

2011-09-01 Thread Alexander Klenin
On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 03:01, Florian Klaempfl wrote: > Am 01.09.2011 17:48, schrieb Alexander Klenin: >> First, I do not see a reason why normal property can not be >> implemented by static field. >> Second, even is such a reason is provided, compiler should error out >> instead of generating bog

Re: [fpc-devel] Issue 20124: Error with static "direct field" properties

2011-09-01 Thread Jonas Maebe
On 01 Sep 2011, at 18:01, Florian Klaempfl wrote: > Am 01.09.2011 17:48, schrieb Alexander Klenin: >> [Is there any method to either comment on or re-open resolved isses? >> It is very frustrating to be forced to switch comminication channel] Only the submitter and people with "developer" access

Re: [fpc-devel] FPDoc sources

2011-09-01 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich
michael.vancann...@wisa.be schrieb: I changed the text to: If you only want to generate the RTL and FCL reference documentation in HTML format, starting from the fpdoc XML descriptions, then the following 2 commands should be enough: $ make rtl.chk $ make fcl.chk Fine. The prerequisite

Re: [fpc-devel] Issue 20124: Error with static "direct field" properties

2011-09-01 Thread Florian Klaempfl
Am 01.09.2011 17:48, schrieb Alexander Klenin: > [Is there any method to either comment on or re-open resolved isses? > It is very frustrating to be forced to switch comminication channel] > > I think this issue is resolved prematurely. > First, I do not see a reason why normal property can not be

[fpc-devel] Issue 20124: Error with static "direct field" properties

2011-09-01 Thread Alexander Klenin
[Is there any method to either comment on or re-open resolved isses? It is very frustrating to be forced to switch comminication channel] I think this issue is resolved prematurely. First, I do not see a reason why normal property can not be implemented by static field. Second, even is such a reas

Re: [fpc-devel] FPDoc sources

2011-09-01 Thread Tomas Hajny
On Thu, September 1, 2011 14:37, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: > On 01/09/2011, Tomas Hajny wrote: >> mind would be skipping the '$' sign at the beginning (as that is >> specific > > That is simply a "generic term/symbol" to indicate that what follows > should be typed in at a command prompt. We can't u

Re: [fpc-devel] FPDoc sources

2011-09-01 Thread michael . vancanneyt
On Thu, 1 Sep 2011, Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote: Tomas Hajny schrieb: I'm having difficulties understanding how the text can be misunderstood: -- If you only want the html reference documentation (fpdoc format), type What'

Re: [fpc-devel] FPDoc sources

2011-09-01 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich
Tomas Hajny schrieb: I'm having difficulties understanding how the text can be misunderstood: -- If you only want the html reference documentation (fpdoc format), type What's this "fpdoc format", and what's "html reference do

Re: DocView features (Was: Re: fpdoc extension: embed topic [Re: [fpc-devel] FPDoc sources])

2011-09-01 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 01/09/2011, Tomas Hajny wrote: > > Graeme, have you managed to move forward with supporting INF files > requiring multi-panel views (as used in files from IBM) as discussed some > time ago? Yes, I have a offline branch that works somewhat with that. The implementation is not very good because f

Re: [fpc-devel] FPDoc sources

2011-09-01 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 01/09/2011, Tomas Hajny wrote: > mind would be skipping the '$' sign at the beginning (as that is specific That is simply a "generic term/symbol" to indicate that what follows should be typed in at a command prompt. We can't use bold or italics or a different font, as is used in other types of

Re: [fpc-devel] FPDoc sources

2011-09-01 Thread Tomas Hajny
On Thu, September 1, 2011 13:05, michael.vancann...@wisa.be wrote: > On Thu, 1 Sep 2011, Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote: >> michael.vancann...@wisa.be schrieb: >> >>> There is a file called README.DOCS in the documentation directory. . . >>> Idealists as we are in the open source community, we assume

Re: [fpc-devel] FPDoc sources

2011-09-01 Thread michael . vancanneyt
On Thu, 1 Sep 2011, Marco van de Voort wrote: In our previous episode, michael.vancann...@wisa.be said: No, you are not silly - you only read your docs in your own context and background, not how a user will read and understand it :-( I'm having difficulties understanding how the text can

DocView features (Was: Re: fpdoc extension: embed topic [Re: [fpc-devel] FPDoc sources])

2011-09-01 Thread Tomas Hajny
On Thu, September 1, 2011 13:23, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: > On 01/09/2011, Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote: >> >> This won't help the users of the fpdoc generated files. There exists no >> "right" tool for everything and everybody, e.g. I'd prefer the old >> WinHelp where I can add annotations to every

Re: [fpc-devel] FPDoc sources

2011-09-01 Thread Marco van de Voort
In our previous episode, michael.vancann...@wisa.be said: > > > > No, you are not silly - you only read your docs in your own context and > > background, not how a user will read and understand it :-( > > I'm having difficulties understanding how the text can be misunderstood: > > --

Re: fpdoc extension: embed topic [Re: [fpc-devel] FPDoc sources]

2011-09-01 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 01/09/2011, Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote: > > This won't help the users of the fpdoc generated files. There exists no > "right" tool for everything and everybody, e.g. I'd prefer the old > WinHelp where I can add annotations to every entry. The latest DocView (in the fpGUI repository) supports i

Re: [fpc-devel] FPDoc sources

2011-09-01 Thread michael . vancanneyt
On Thu, 1 Sep 2011, Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote: michael.vancann...@wisa.be schrieb: There is a file called README.DOCS in the documentation directory. I've read this and many other docs :-) It contains the answers to your questions. Especially line 19 and following. Idealists as we are

Re: [fpc-devel] FPDoc sources

2011-09-01 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich
michael.vancann...@wisa.be schrieb: There is a file called README.DOCS in the documentation directory. I've read this and many other docs :-) It contains the answers to your questions. Especially line 19 and following. Idealists as we are in the open source community, we assume that people

Re: [fpc-devel] FPDoc sources

2011-09-01 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich
Graeme Geldenhuys schrieb: On 01/09/2011, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: If you only want to generate HTML of the Class Documentation (RTL, FCL) then a LaTeX executable is NOT needed. To do this, run the following make command: $ make rtl.chk $ make fcl.chk Here is a more complete command

Re: [fpc-devel] FPDoc sources

2011-09-01 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich
Graeme Geldenhuys schrieb: On 01/09/2011, Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote: $make html [you snipped this essential detail] Ah, I see the problem now... :) That was my conclusion as well, but why should any *Latex* tools be called for generating *HTML* output??? Because you are trying to create

Re: fpdoc extension: embed topic [Re: [fpc-devel] FPDoc sources]

2011-09-01 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 01/09/2011, Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote: > BTW, it would be very nice to have the class members sorted > alphabetically, regardless of their type or arrangement in the class > declaration. It's very hard to find Duplicates in the TStringList > description :-( Use the right tool for the job. :-

Re: [fpc-devel] FPC wiki (Mediawiki) needs an update

2011-09-01 Thread Vincent Snijders
2011/9/1 Graeme Geldenhuys : > Hi, > > I just looked at the FPC Wiki's Special:Version page. The FPC wiki is > still using MediaWiki 1.9, and MediaWiki is already at 1.17. The > latter contains a lot more improvements and fixes. > > Any chance of somebody updating the FPC wiki to the latest MediaWi

Re: [fpc-devel] FPDoc sources

2011-09-01 Thread michael . vancanneyt
On Thu, 1 Sep 2011, Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote: Graeme Geldenhuys schrieb: On 31/08/2011, Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote: $make html [you snipped this essential detail] ... process_begin: CreateProcess((null), latex user.tex, ...) failed. make (e=2): Das System kann die angegebene Datei nicht

Re: [fpc-devel] FPDoc sources

2011-09-01 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 01/09/2011, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: > If you only want to generate HTML of the Class Documentation (RTL, > FCL) then a LaTeX executable is NOT needed. To do this, run the > following make command: > > $ make rtl.chk > $ make fcl.chk Here is a more complete command - which I normally u

[fpc-devel] FPC wiki (Mediawiki) needs an update

2011-09-01 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Hi, I just looked at the FPC Wiki's Special:Version page. The FPC wiki is still using MediaWiki 1.9, and MediaWiki is already at 1.17. The latter contains a lot more improvements and fixes. Any chance of somebody updating the FPC wiki to the latest MediaWiki version? -- Regards, - Graeme -

Re: [fpc-devel] FPDoc sources

2011-09-01 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 01/09/2011, Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote: > > $make html [you snipped this essential detail] Ah, I see the problem now... :) > That was my conclusion as well, but why should any *Latex* tools be > called for generating *HTML* output??? Because you are trying to create HTML docs for the Langua

Re: [fpc-devel] FPDoc sources

2011-09-01 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich
Graeme Geldenhuys schrieb: On 31/08/2011, Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote: $make html [you snipped this essential detail] ... process_begin: CreateProcess((null), latex user.tex, ...) failed. make (e=2): Das System kann die angegebene Datei nicht finden. I have never tried to build the FPC docum

Re: fpdoc extension: embed topic [Re: [fpc-devel] FPDoc sources]

2011-09-01 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich
michael.vancann...@wisa.be schrieb: For example http://www.freepascal.org/docs-html/rtl/classes/tfilestream.create.html In fact a bad example, because the option is not an enumerated type but simple constants. Nonetheless this one comes close to my expectations. It e.g. explains why the met

Re: [fpc-devel] FPC-JVM: Status report on Android

2011-09-01 Thread Sven Barth
Am 01.09.2011 06:54, schrieb Max Vlasov: On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 1:13 AM, Sven Barth wrote: I'll try to improve the unit names of the android unit and its dependencies a bit and then it might become the first package for FPC-JVM ;) Sven, thanks for your tests. Adding hwfpo (Hello World From

Re: [fpc-devel] FPC-JVM: Status report on Android

2011-09-01 Thread Sven Barth
Am 01.09.2011 00:02, schrieb Jonas Maebe: I'll try to improve the unit names of the android unit and its dependencies a bit and then it might become the first package for FPC-JVM ;) Great! Note that using the jdk15 unit in the android unit is not a good idea, since it probably also exports JD