Re: [fpc-devel] Forwarded message about FPC status

2012-12-18 Thread Florian Klämpfl
Am 18.12.2012 19:17, schrieb Vincent Snijders: > 2012/12/18 Florian Klämpfl : >> Am 17.12.2012 10:36, schrieb Graeme Geldenhuys: >>> Hi, >>> >>> Any FPC developer willing to comment on the status of some of these >>> issues (that have been years overdue)? >> >> It narrows basically down to the fact

Re: [fpc-devel] Forwarded message about FPC status

2012-12-18 Thread Vincent Snijders
2012/12/18 Florian Klämpfl : > Am 17.12.2012 10:36, schrieb Graeme Geldenhuys: >> Hi, >> >> Any FPC developer willing to comment on the status of some of these >> issues (that have been years overdue)? > > It narrows basically down to the fact that fpc lacks developers and > contributors, or do I m

Re: [fpc-devel] Forwarded message about FPC status

2012-12-18 Thread Florian Klämpfl
Am 17.12.2012 10:36, schrieb Graeme Geldenhuys: > Hi, > > Any FPC developer willing to comment on the status of some of these > issues (that have been years overdue)? It narrows basically down to the fact that fpc lacks developers and contributors, or do I miss something? > > Original

[fpc-devel] Re: Building the Android branch

2012-12-18 Thread Sven Barth
Am 18.12.2012 17:47 schrieb "Thomas Schatzl" : > > Hi, > > On Tue, 2012-12-18 at 17:35 +0100, Sven Barth wrote: > > > === objdump end === > > > > > > The first one shouldn't be the full pathname... also isn't the linker > > > on Android called "/system/bin/linker"? > > You're trying to generate an

[fpc-devel] Re: Building the Android branch

2012-12-18 Thread Thomas Schatzl
Hi, On Tue, 2012-12-18 at 17:35 +0100, Sven Barth wrote: > > === objdump end === > > > > The first one shouldn't be the full pathname... also isn't the linker > > on Android called "/system/bin/linker"? You're trying to generate an executable or a shared library (.so)? > > > > Do I need any fur

[fpc-devel] Re: Building the Android branch

2012-12-18 Thread Sven Barth
Am 18.12.2012 17:24, schrieb Sven Barth: Am 18.12.2012 14:22, schrieb Sven Barth: Am 18.12.2012 14:15, schrieb Thomas Schatzl: I now simply replaced my 2.6.0 fpcmake with one compiled from the Android branch and were happy to go :) So I (this time on Windows) managed to compile and install t

[fpc-devel] Re: Building the Android branch

2012-12-18 Thread Sven Barth
Am 18.12.2012 14:22, schrieb Sven Barth: Am 18.12.2012 14:15, schrieb Thomas Schatzl: I now simply replaced my 2.6.0 fpcmake with one compiled from the Android branch and were happy to go :) So I (this time on Windows) managed to compile and install the branch and now just need to check wheth

Re: [fpc-devel] Forwarded message about FPC status

2012-12-18 Thread Sven Barth
Am 18.12.2012 15:00, schrieb Dimitri Smits: As Sven wrote, I guess the FPC community needs to think about this. XE2 already supported MacOS X (but through fpc). Haven't checked the OS-X in XE3 though. Only iOS was done through FPC. Mac OS X itself was already done through Embarcadero's compiler

Re: [fpc-devel] Forwarded message about FPC status

2012-12-18 Thread Dimitri Smits
As Sven wrote, I guess the FPC community needs to think about this. XE2 already supported MacOS X (but through fpc). Haven't checked the OS-X in XE3 though. As for the multi-platform: they are rewriting their compiler to be a front for llvm. Probably they will make a few code-generators and opt

Re: [fpc-devel] utf8 in 2.6.0

2012-12-18 Thread Sven Barth
Am 18.12.2012 14:47, schrieb Anton Kavalenka: On 15.12.2012 21:35, Martin wrote: I am trying to figure out how to do that, or what I do wrong. I found a page about $codepage, but it did not help http://wiki.freepascal.org/LCL_Unicode_Support I didnt find the fpc specific page, if exists (I sus

Re: [fpc-devel] utf8 in 2.6.0

2012-12-18 Thread Anton Kavalenka
On 15.12.2012 21:35, Martin wrote: I am trying to figure out how to do that, or what I do wrong. I found a page about $codepage, but it did not help http://wiki.freepascal.org/LCL_Unicode_Support I didnt find the fpc specific page, if exists (I suspect it does) I am calling a function "functi

Re: [fpc-devel] Forwarded message about FPC status

2012-12-18 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 18/12/12 13:26, Marco van de Voort wrote: > > They could deliver ppu's and .o's. True, but widely untested. As a previous conversation from a few month back ended... it should work in theory. Also Lazarus Packages are designed to work with source only. There is no option to install .ppu's an

Re: [fpc-devel] Forwarded message about FPC status

2012-12-18 Thread Marco van de Voort
In our previous episode, Graeme Geldenhuys said: > > IMHO Delphi-like IDE (design-time) packages are not useful in Lazarus, > > as adding a source package and recompiling does the trick just as well. > > Tell that to component developers and companies like Devx, TMS etc! With > the current way th

[fpc-devel] Re: Building the Android branch

2012-12-18 Thread Sven Barth
Am 18.12.2012 14:15, schrieb Thomas Schatzl: I now simply replaced my 2.6.0 fpcmake with one compiled from the Android branch and were happy to go :) So I (this time on Windows) managed to compile and install the branch and now just need to check whether it will work... Now I just need to tes

Re: [fpc-devel] Forwarded message about FPC status

2012-12-18 Thread Sven Barth
Am 18.12.2012 13:19, schrieb Michael Schnell: On 12/17/2012 03:44 PM, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: Probably not even implemented, because Delphi IDE is Windows only - and there are no plans to make a cross-platform IDE by Embarcadero. Regards, - Graeme - IMHO Delphi-like IDE (design-time) packag

[fpc-devel] Re: Building the Android branch

2012-12-18 Thread Thomas Schatzl
Hi, On Tue, 2012-12-18 at 13:48 +0100, Sven Barth wrote: Am 18.12.2012 11:09, schrieb Thomas Schatzl: > > > >> > There is a new issue I have never seen before that fpdoc > >> > (actually > >> > cwstring) now wants to link with libiconv which is not > >> > available on > >> > Android (you

Re: [fpc-devel] Forwarded message about FPC status

2012-12-18 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 18/12/12 12:19, Michael Schnell wrote: > > IMHO Delphi-like IDE (design-time) packages are not useful in Lazarus, > as adding a source package and recompiling does the trick just as well. Tell that to component developers and companies like Devx, TMS etc! With the current way things work, the

[fpc-devel] Re: Building the Android branch

2012-12-18 Thread Sven Barth
Am 18.12.2012 11:09, schrieb Thomas Schatzl: > There is a new issue I have never seen before that fpdoc (actually > cwstring) now wants to link with libiconv which is not available on > Android (you can build it yourselves though). Simply excluding it from > the android build would fix

Re: [fpc-devel] Forwarded message about FPC status

2012-12-18 Thread Michael Schnell
On 12/17/2012 04:29 PM, Sven Barth wrote: From what I see so far of the route that Embarcadero takes (complete reimplementation of compiler, sudden appearence of "type helpers" and things like "zero based strings") I predict that we'll reach a point in the near(!) future where we won't (be able

Re: [fpc-devel] Forwarded message about FPC status

2012-12-18 Thread Michael Schnell
On 12/17/2012 03:55 PM, Sven Barth wrote: No. We need to think about this ourselves as we support more targets than Delphi ever will support. Even cross-platform runtime packages might make sense (e.g. linking a native "plugin" package to an Android/Java Program) Something I could (suppose

Re: [fpc-devel] Forwarded message about FPC status

2012-12-18 Thread Michael Schnell
On 12/17/2012 03:44 PM, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: Probably not even implemented, because Delphi IDE is Windows only - and there are no plans to make a cross-platform IDE by Embarcadero. Regards, - Graeme - IMHO Delphi-like IDE (design-time) packages are not useful in Lazarus, as adding a sour

[fpc-devel] Re: Building the Android branch

2012-12-18 Thread Thomas Schatzl
Hi, On Tue, 2012-12-18 at 07:30 +0100, Sven Barth wrote: > On 18.12.2012 00:10, Thomas Schatzl wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On Mon, 2012-12-17 at 21:45 +0100, Sven Barth wrote: > >> I'm currently testing the Android branch and I've already reached a > >> problem when trying to build it. I've downlo

Re: [fpc-devel] Forwarded message about FPC status

2012-12-18 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: This is why I decided to diversify, and why I will once again turn my attention to Java (not JavaScript-that-is-the-assembly-language-of-the-internet). Java seems the sensible route to go, for long term employment. There is a very healthy Java industry (stacks of jobs),