Re: [fpc-devel] Question about 2.7.1 graduation

2014-11-25 Thread Sven Barth
On 26.11.2014 00:48, Gennady Agranov wrote: Hi, When can regular FPC user expect 2.7.1 to graduate and be marked as stable release? Somewhere in Spring - like 2.6.4? We are currently in branch preparation phase of 2.8. Once it's branched it will be roughly half a year till the release (don't

Re: [fpc-devel] RTL development cycle

2014-11-25 Thread Sven Barth
On 25.11.2014 23:55, luiz americo pereira camara wrote: But fpexprpars is not recompiled Is there any better way to compile and test changes in the RTL? Just a slight correction: everything in "packages" is not "RTL" (except maybe the "rtl-*" packages). The RTL itself resides in directory "rt

Re: [fpc-devel] Question about 2.7.1 graduation

2014-11-25 Thread waldo kitty
On 11/25/2014 6:48 PM, Gennady Agranov wrote: Hi, When can regular FPC user expect 2.7.1 to graduate and be marked as stable release? it won't... if i understand the fpc versioning methods, it will be 2.7.2 or 2.8.0 ;) Somewhere in Spring - like 2.6.4? we used to have a well used and sli

Re: [fpc-devel] ThousandSeparator

2014-11-25 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Marco van de Voort wrote: In our previous episode, Pierre Free Pascal said: I am surprised, for me, as French, I always believed that the French thousand separator is simply a space, what else should it be? A shift space. In utf8 that takes two bytes. How does that look when hand-written on

[fpc-devel] Question about 2.7.1 graduation

2014-11-25 Thread Gennady Agranov
Hi, When can regular FPC user expect 2.7.1 to graduate and be marked as stable release? Somewhere in Spring - like 2.6.4? Thanks, Gennady ___ fpc-devel maillist - fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc

Re: [fpc-devel] ThousandSeparator

2014-11-25 Thread Ewald
On 11/25/2014 07:36 PM, Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote: > > I'd assume that national separators are part of the according > codepage, but is that always true? Of the OS/window manager actually. You are of course right in that there are a certain set of separators that can be used, but the exact separa

Re: [fpc-devel] ThousandSeparator

2014-11-25 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 19:36:45 +0100 Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote: >[...] > > Maybe a widechar is sufficient ? Making it a string is more invasive > > than making it a widechar. > > Are all possible separators members of the Unicode BMP? I found 12 thousand-separators and they are all in the BMP.

[fpc-devel] RTL development cycle

2014-11-25 Thread luiz americo pereira camara
Hi, Until now, when i make changes to RTL units in trunk, i take two pathes to test and compile: 1) If the unit is self contained, i go to source directory and compile directly 2) If the unit is a dependency of other RTL parts, i rebuild all the compiler and RTL I tried improve this cycle. So a

Re: [fpc-devel] ThousandSeparator

2014-11-25 Thread Sven Barth
Am 25.11.2014 17:51 schrieb "Michael Van Canneyt" : > > > > On Tue, 25 Nov 2014, Mattias Gaertner wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> The ThousandSeparator is "char" and supports only 1 byte characters. >> For example French and Russian need more. >> Are there any plans to extend it? > > > Plans: yes. Time: no.

Re: [fpc-devel] ThousandSeparator

2014-11-25 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich
Mattias Gaertner schrieb: Does concatenating a string and a WideChar create a UnicodeString? Can this become a problem? Concatenation requires 2 strings, so everything depends on the concrete code. Regardless of eventual compiler magics, something like this will happen: var c: WideChar; s,

Re: [fpc-devel] ThousandSeparator

2014-11-25 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich
Michael Van Canneyt schrieb: The ThousandSeparator is "char" and supports only 1 byte characters. For example French and Russian need more. Are there any plans to extend it? Plans: yes. Time: no. Maybe a widechar is sufficient ? Making it a string is more invasive than making it a widechar.

Re: [fpc-devel] ThousandSeparator

2014-11-25 Thread Marco van de Voort
In our previous episode, Michael Van Canneyt said: > > The ThousandSeparator is "char" and supports only 1 byte characters. > > For example French and Russian need more. > > Are there any plans to extend it? > > Plans: yes. Time: no. > > Maybe a widechar is sufficient ? If you start changing th

Re: [fpc-devel] ThousandSeparator

2014-11-25 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 17:51:41 +0100 (CET) Michael Van Canneyt wrote: > > > On Tue, 25 Nov 2014, Mattias Gaertner wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > The ThousandSeparator is "char" and supports only 1 byte characters. > > For example French and Russian need more. > > Are there any plans to extend it? > >

Re: [fpc-devel] ThousandSeparator

2014-11-25 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Tue, 25 Nov 2014, Mattias Gaertner wrote: Hi, The ThousandSeparator is "char" and supports only 1 byte characters. For example French and Russian need more. Are there any plans to extend it? Plans: yes. Time: no. Maybe a widechar is sufficient ? Making it a string is more invasive than

Re: [fpc-devel] ThousandSeparator

2014-11-25 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
2014-11-25 17:21 GMT+01:00 Pierre Free Pascal : > I am surprised, > for me, as French, I always believed that > the French thousand separator is simply a space, > what else should it be? > Not quite. It looks like a space, but: - you wouldn't like to see 2 000 € printed as: 2 000 € would you? -

Re: [fpc-devel] ThousandSeparator

2014-11-25 Thread Marco van de Voort
In our previous episode, Pierre Free Pascal said: > I am surprised, > for me, as French, I always believed that > the French thousand separator is simply a space, > what else should it be? A shift space. In utf8 that takes two bytes. ___ fpc-devel mailli

Re: [fpc-devel] ThousandSeparator

2014-11-25 Thread Vsevolod Alekseyev
As a Russian, I'm equally surprised. We don't normally separate thousands at all. On 11/25/2014 11:21 AM, Pierre Free Pascal wrote: I am surprised, for me, as French, I always believed that the French thousand separator is simply a space, what else should it be? Pierre Muller from Strasbourg,

Re: [fpc-devel] ThousandSeparator

2014-11-25 Thread Pierre Free Pascal
I am surprised, for me, as French, I always believed that the French thousand separator is simply a space, what else should it be? Pierre Muller from Strasbourg, France > -Message d'origine- > De : fpc-devel-boun...@lists.freepascal.org [mailto:fpc-devel- > boun...@lists.freepascal.org] D

[fpc-devel] ThousandSeparator

2014-11-25 Thread Mattias Gaertner
Hi, The ThousandSeparator is "char" and supports only 1 byte characters. For example French and Russian need more. Are there any plans to extend it? Mattias ___ fpc-devel maillist - fpc-devel@lists.freepascal.org http://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/m

Re: [fpc-devel] Implicit Transactions Postgres

2014-11-25 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Tue, 25 Nov 2014, Chris Dryburgh wrote: On 25/11/14 03:47 AM, Michael Van Canneyt wrote: On Mon, 24 Nov 2014, Chris Dryburgh wrote: Found this bug report from 2010 on using implicit transactions in PostgreSQL. As far as I can tell nothing has happened since. Using the TSQLTransaction.

Re: [fpc-devel] Implicit Transactions Postgres

2014-11-25 Thread Chris Dryburgh
On 25/11/14 03:47 AM, Michael Van Canneyt wrote: On Mon, 24 Nov 2014, Chris Dryburgh wrote: Found this bug report from 2010 on using implicit transactions in PostgreSQL. As far as I can tell nothing has happened since. Using the TSQLTransaction.Action setting looks like a good approach to i

Re: [fpc-devel] DragonFly BSD x86-64 support --- patch sets ready for commit to trunk

2014-11-25 Thread Marco van de Voort
In our previous episode, Jonas Maebe said: > > (and > > not making the 2.8.0 release) so that's what is concerning me. > > Committing large patches right before forking a stable branch is > generally not done in any case (it's kind of a contraction in terms). > At first sight there is nothing

Re: [fpc-devel] DragonFly BSD x86-64 support --- patch sets ready for commit to trunk

2014-11-25 Thread John Marino
On 11/25/2014 14:03, Jonas Maebe wrote: > > On 25 Nov 2014, at 13:52, John Marino wrote: > >> I see a lot of activity in the trunk thus I'm worried about bitrot (and >> not making the 2.8.0 release) so that's what is concerning me. > > Committing large patches right before forking a stable branc

Re: [fpc-devel] DragonFly BSD x86-64 support --- patch sets ready for commit to trunk

2014-11-25 Thread Jonas Maebe
On 25 Nov 2014, at 13:52, John Marino wrote: I see a lot of activity in the trunk thus I'm worried about bitrot (and not making the 2.8.0 release) so that's what is concerning me. Committing large patches right before forking a stable branch is generally not done in any case (it's kind of

Re: [fpc-devel] DragonFly BSD x86-64 support --- patch sets ready for commit to trunk

2014-11-25 Thread John Marino
On 11/25/2014 13:17, Jonas Maebe wrote: > > On 25 Nov 2014, at 12:29, John Marino wrote: > >> I am wondering what the next step is. Are these patch sets currently >> under review? Is anything more needed from me? > > It's best to open a bug report at http://bugs.freepascal.org and attach > the

Re: [fpc-devel] DragonFly BSD x86-64 support --- patch sets ready for commit to trunk

2014-11-25 Thread Jonas Maebe
On 25 Nov 2014, at 12:29, John Marino wrote: I am wondering what the next step is. Are these patch sets currently under review? Is anything more needed from me? It's best to open a bug report at http://bugs.freepascal.org and attach them there. Jonas ___

Re: [fpc-devel] DragonFly BSD x86-64 support --- patch sets ready for commit to trunk

2014-11-25 Thread John Marino
On 11/23/2014 12:04, John Marino wrote: > Hello, > I've applied the DragonFly BSD support to the trunk. The 2.6.4 compiler > can bootstrap it and it builds itself and helloworld. > > I've split it into 3 patch sets for the convenience of the committer: > http://leaf.dragonflybsd.org/~marino/df-fp

Re: [fpc-devel] can't build trunk for x86_64-linux (suse-64)

2014-11-25 Thread C Western
On 24/11/14 23:50, Gennady Agranov wrote: suse-32 builds fine though ... Anything obvious I have missed? Thanks, Gennady Start compiling package gdbint for target x86_64-linux. File libgdb.a not found Compiling gdbint/src/gdbint.pp Compiling gdbint/src/gdbcon.pp Compili

Re: [fpc-devel] Implicit Transactions Postgres

2014-11-25 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Mon, 24 Nov 2014, Chris Dryburgh wrote: Found this bug report from 2010 on using implicit transactions in PostgreSQL. As far as I can tell nothing has happened since. Using the TSQLTransaction.Action setting looks like a good approach to implementing implicit transactions. It would mean w