Re: [fpc-other] What does Embarcadero spend there time on

2013-03-08 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 2013-03-08 13:07, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: least care to post a summary and possibly a TinyURL? Or do your regular rants about netiquete only apply to other people? Where does that come from? 1) I posted to fpc-other, where anything goes 2) The message was short and to the point. Not to

Re: [fpc-other] What does Embarcadero spend there time on

2013-03-08 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 2013-03-08 14:55, Jonas Maebe wrote: yourself in the role of moderator on other lists and deriding people (rather than contacting the moderators and asking them to do something I guess the moderators simply don't do the job they were assigned or volunteered for. Also, there as no specific

Re: [fpc-other] What does Embarcadero spend there time on

2013-03-08 Thread Jonas Maebe
On 08 Mar 2013, at 16:14, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: It's not karma, just some people that are outright idiots. That does it, you're back on moderation. Please grow up, finally. Jonas FPC mailing list admin ___ fpc-other maillist -

Re: [fpc-other] What does Embarcadero spend there time on

2013-03-08 Thread Doug Chamberlin
I must say, Mark and Jonas, you have just exhibited a serious lack of judgement and discipline. I think the original post by Graeme had nothing wrong with it. Short, to the point, and including a short URL. From the ensuing exchange it is clear you two are carrying over an attitude from

Re: [fpc-other] What does Embarcadero spend there time on

2013-03-08 Thread Jonas Maebe
On 08 Mar 2013, at 16:37, Doug Chamberlin wrote: I think the original post by Graeme had nothing wrong with it. Short, to the point, and including a short URL. I agree. The moderation setting was in reaction to (a.o.) his subsequent messages. I stopped following the other fpc and

Re: [fpc-other] What does Embarcadero spend there time on

2013-03-08 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: Also, there as no specific person I targeted in fpc-devel. Almost all posts lately contain about 95% quoted text! How does a moderator fail to see this? I really don't want to prolong this and perhaps upset more people than necessary, but has it occurred to you that

[fpc-other] Goodbye, and thanks for the fishes

2013-03-08 Thread ik
Hello, After too much thinking I'ved decided to leave here. I don't know if this is permanent or not, but I can't for now continue to be here. I'ved wrote about it here: http://idkn.wordpress.com/2013/03/08/goodbye-pascal/ Goodbye and thanks for the fishes Ido

Re: [fpc-other] What does Embarcadero spend there time on

2013-03-08 Thread Tomas Hajny
On Fri, March 8, 2013 17:04, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: Also, there as no specific person I targeted in fpc-devel. Almost all posts lately contain about 95% quoted text! How does a moderator fail to see this? I really don't want to prolong this and perhaps upset more

Re: [fpc-other] Goodbye, and thanks for the fishes

2013-03-08 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
ik wrote: Hello, After too much thinking I'ved decided to leave here. I don't know if this is permanent or not, but I can't for now continue to be here. I'ved wrote about it here: http://idkn.wordpress.com/2013/03/08/goodbye-pascal/ Goodbye and thanks for the fishes We're sorry to see you

Re: [fpc-other] What does Embarcadero spend there time on

2013-03-08 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 2013-03-08 16:04, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: I really don't want to prolong this and perhaps upset more people than necessary, but has it occurred to you that that's how mailing lists work and that possibly your expectations are unreasonable? Unreasonable? Not at all. Maybe I just

Re: [fpc-other] What does Embarcadero spend there time on

2013-03-08 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Tomas Hajny wrote: On Fri, March 8, 2013 17:04, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: Also, there as no specific person I targeted in fpc-devel. Almost all posts lately contain about 95% quoted text! How does a moderator fail to see this? I really don't want to prolong this and

Re: [fpc-other] Goodbye, and thanks for the fishes

2013-03-08 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Marco van de Voort wrote: In our previous episode, Mark Morgan Lloyd said: But I suppose all this begs the question: if one decides not to use Object Pascal, what are the viable alternatives? While hobbywise, I won't let go of FPC (and Wirthian languages) that quickly, professionally it is

Re: [fpc-other] What does Embarcadero spend there time on

2013-03-08 Thread ListMember
On 2013-03-08 20:29, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: I didn't say it was inappropriate, I said that providing a TinyURL alternative would have helped people who- for some reason or other- couldn't cut-and-paste the full one. Well.. there's the flip-side which is more important: Sites that provide

Re: [fpc-other] Goodbye, and thanks for the fishes

2013-03-08 Thread Mario Ray Mahardhika
It's sad to see a Pascalian go, but no problem, I've seen this before. Well, if you've tried several other languages developed by more than one team (C, C++, etc. that has standards or widely implemented) you'll feel the same way as you wrote in your blog. They do have extensions (sometimes a

Re: [fpc-other] What does Embarcadero spend there time on

2013-03-08 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 2013-03-08 17:38, Tomas Hajny wrote: - I believe that the response of Graeme to comment from Jonas was clearly inappropriate (calling others idiots is always inappropriate in my view and never leads to any positive outcome) Please note: I did NOT mention any names, so there was no finger

Re: [fpc-other] Goodbye, and thanks for the fishes

2013-03-08 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 2013-03-08 18:22, Marco van de Voort wrote: bit. (IOW, if you go back to C++, what will you use as GUI?) You would be crazy [@Mark Jonas: it's a figure of speech] if you don't choose Qt. One doesn't have to like it, but if I'm leaving Pascal because it is too tiring to defend being in a