Re: [fpc-pascal] Linux Install: Is it me or the documentation? ;-)

2006-11-01 Thread Micha Nelissen
Lev Lafayette wrote: > and like the TurboPascal critter from all those years ago, verdade? If Yes. > this is so, where does it live in the filesystem? Not that coding in > vi(m)/emacs/pico etc is a problem as such... /usr/bin/fp ? It's named 'fp' in any case. Micha _

Re: [fpc-pascal] Linux Install: Is it me or the documentation? ;-)

2006-11-01 Thread Lev Lafayette
On Wed, 2006-11-01 at 09:34 +0100, Micha Nelissen wrote: > Lev Lafayette wrote: > > and like the TurboPascal critter from all those years ago, verdade? If > > Yes. > > > this is so, where does it live in the filesystem? Not that coding in > > vi(m)/emacs/pico etc is a problem as such... > > /usr

Re: [fpc-pascal] Linux Install: Is it me or the documentation? ;-)

2006-11-01 Thread Bisma Jayadi
Mmm... shiny. Maybe you should try Lazarus as well, a GUI-RAD based on Free Pascal (FPC). http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/ If you're familiar with Delphi, you might thought Lazarus is a Delphi-like IDE for FPC. Lazarus is alot shinier than FPC's default text-mode IDE. ;) -Bee- has Bee.og

[fpc-pascal] Eye Candy Contest

2006-11-01 Thread Marc PERTRON
Hi, I'd like to show to some people that FreePascal can do good graphical and efficient things :o) So I organise an eye candy contest, with some simple rules, and I'll give three rewards ($150, $100 and $50) for the three best programs. The rules : -The end of the contest is December 15th (i

Re: [fpc-pascal] Eye Candy Contest

2006-11-01 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Wed, 1 Nov 2006, Marc PERTRON wrote: > Hi, > > I'd like to show to some people that FreePascal can do good graphical and > efficient things :o) > So I organise an eye candy contest, with some simple rules, and I'll give > three rewards ($150, $100 and $50) for the three best programs. Indep

Re: [fpc-pascal] Eye Candy Contest

2006-11-01 Thread Marc PERTRON
Michael Van Canneyt a écrit : Independent of this, you may want to show your 'people': http://www.freepascal.org/gallery.html There are some very nifty graphics programs. Pixel32 for instance. Voxel. Or the games. Probably the pascal game development site has also some nice screenshots. The

Re: [fpc-pascal] Eye Candy Contest

2006-11-01 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Wed, 1 Nov 2006, Marc PERTRON wrote: > Michael Van Canneyt a écrit : > > > > Independent of this, you may want to show your 'people': > > > > http://www.freepascal.org/gallery.html > > > > There are some very nifty graphics programs. Pixel32 for instance. Voxel. > > Or the games. Probably the

[fpc-pascal] how FPC expects string/interface/variant results?

2006-11-01 Thread Alexandre Leclerc
I have a question (for ROPS) in FPC that is way over my head. - Can you find out how FPC expects string/interface/variant results ? Is there documentation where I could get this information? I think it is about cpu registers, etc. (?) Also, I might ask, how does FPC expect parameters passing? A

Re: [fpc-pascal] how FPC expects string/interface/variant results?

2006-11-01 Thread Jonas Maebe
On 01 Nov 2006, at 14:30, Alexandre Leclerc wrote: - Can you find out how FPC expects string/interface/variant results ? Is there documentation where I could get this information? I think it is about cpu registers, etc. (?) Also, I might ask, how does FPC expect parameters passing? And Method

Re: [fpc-pascal] how FPC expects string/interface/variant results?

2006-11-01 Thread Tomas Hajny
Jonas Maebe wrote: > On 01 Nov 2006, at 14:30, Alexandre Leclerc wrote: > >> - Can you find out how FPC expects string/interface/variant results ? >> >> Is there documentation where I could get this information? I think it >> is about cpu registers, etc. (?) >> >> Also, I might ask, how does FPC ex

Re: [fpc-pascal] how FPC expects string/interface/variant results?

2006-11-01 Thread Alexandre Leclerc
2006/11/1, Tomas Hajny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Jonas Maebe wrote: > On 01 Nov 2006, at 14:30, Alexandre Leclerc wrote: > >> - Can you find out how FPC expects string/interface/variant results ? >> >> Is there documentation where I could get this information? I think it >> is about cpu registers, etc

Re: [fpc-pascal] how FPC expects string/interface/variant results?

2006-11-01 Thread Alexandre Leclerc
2006/11/1, Tomas Hajny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Jonas Maebe wrote: > On 01 Nov 2006, at 14:30, Alexandre Leclerc wrote: > >> - Can you find out how FPC expects string/interface/variant results ? >> >> Is there documentation where I could get this information? I think it >> is about cpu registers, etc

[fpc-pascal] Is it necessary to protect passed passwords in memory?

2006-11-01 Thread Johannes Nohl
Dear list, I was thinking of writing a daemon in freepascal. When the program is started it will ask for a password. Then keep the pass in a string variable, using it every 10 minutes. It's not for an high security environment but I'm interested in general. How to protect those information in me

Re: [fpc-pascal] Is it necessary to protect passed passwords in memory?

2006-11-01 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Wed, 1 Nov 2006, Johannes Nohl wrote: > Dear list, > > I was thinking of writing a daemon in freepascal. When the program is > started it will ask for a password. Then keep the pass in a string > variable, using it every 10 minutes. > > It's not for an high security environment but I'm inte

Re: [fpc-pascal] Is it necessary to protect passed passwords in memory?

2006-11-01 Thread Marc PERTRON
Johannes Nohl a écrit : Dear list, I was thinking of writing a daemon in freepascal. When the program is started it will ask for a password. Then keep the pass in a string variable, using it every 10 minutes. It's not for an high security environment but I'm interested in general. How to protec

[fpc-pascal] FPC hackers contest [was: Eye Candy Contest]

2006-11-01 Thread Alexander Todorov
On Wed, 01 Nov 2006 12:19:57 +0100 Marc PERTRON wrote: The usual answer is 'yes but you can do that with VB too'. I don't want people to compare VB and FP, but to see that FP is as good as C for heavy things ;o) And an eye-candy is one of the best examples :) -- Marc Lots of people are very fo

[fpc-pascal] DateToStr locale

2006-11-01 Thread Henry Vermaak
hello all i've noticed that DateToStr gives correct results on win32 (regarding locale), but on linux and osx it always gives the date as dd-mm-. i read somewhere in the archives that there's a problem implementing this due to the need to link to libc or something (hand wavy). can anyone she

Re: [fpc-pascal] Is it necessary to protect passed passwords in memory?

2006-11-01 Thread Vinzent Hoefler
On Wednesday 01 November 2006 15:55, Marc PERTRON wrote: > dictionary attacks'; > pwd := md5('My Secret Password' + salt); > end; And where do you think the phrase 'My Secret Password' would be stored other than memory? Vinzent. ___ fpc-pascal mai

Re: [fpc-pascal] how FPC expects string/interface/variant results?

2006-11-01 Thread Tomas Hajny
Alexandre Leclerc wrote: > 2006/11/1, Tomas Hajny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> Jonas Maebe wrote: >> > On 01 Nov 2006, at 14:30, Alexandre Leclerc wrote: >> > >> >> - Can you find out how FPC expects string/interface/variant results ? >> >> >> >> Is there documentation where I could get this information

Re: [fpc-pascal] how FPC expects string/interface/variant results?

2006-11-01 Thread Florian Klaempfl
Tomas Hajny schrieb: Not that recently - the calling convention hasn't changed during 2.x lifetime. Moreover, you can still force the old behaviour, i.e. you aren't Well, the calling conventions are changed if this is required because they are incompatible e.g. broken. So if we discover that w

Re: [fpc-pascal] how FPC expects string/interface/variant results?

2006-11-01 Thread Jonas Maebe
On 1 nov 2006, at 17:35, Tomas Hajny wrote: We don't expect to change the current default any more (although we cannot guarantee that fully), and almost certainly not within 2.x series. Actually, someone recently found out our register calling convention on i386 is incompatible with Delphi'

Re: [fpc-pascal] Is it necessary to protect passed passwords in memory?

2006-11-01 Thread Johannes Nohl
And where do you think the phrase 'My Secret Password' would be stored other than memory? so you have to override variables after use? like var pwd: array[0..15] of char; xpwd: string; [...] readln(pwd); xpwd := encrypt(pwd); pwd := '123456789012345'; // override [...] ??? _

Re: [fpc-pascal] DateToStr locale

2006-11-01 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Wed, 1 Nov 2006, Henry Vermaak wrote: > hello all > > i've noticed that DateToStr gives correct results on win32 (regarding > locale), but on linux and osx it always gives the date as dd-mm-. > i read somewhere in the archives that there's a problem implementing > this due to the need to

[fpc-pascal] -Xe and -Xi question

2006-11-01 Thread Alexandre Leclerc
I all, when using -Xe option DBG is working, but when using -Xi it is not. Is it normal? (Using an old 3823 revision.) I tried r4479 (v2.0.4) and v2.0.4 FPC version but -Xe is not an available switch. And debuger is not working without it. Is there anything to do with that? -- Alexandre Leclerc

Re: [fpc-pascal] ROPS and latest FPC compiler (svn)

2006-11-01 Thread Alexandre Leclerc
2006/10/31, Alexandre Leclerc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: 2006/10/31, Jesus Reyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > --- Alexandre Leclerc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > > > Hi all, > > > > I'm running into strang ROPS behaviour when using the latest > > compiler > > in svn. Is there a compiler switch required

Re: [fpc-pascal] ROPS and latest FPC compiler (svn)

2006-11-01 Thread Florian Klaempfl
Alexandre Leclerc schrieb: For now, the only thing I'm sure about is that with version 2.0.4 of the compiler it is working correctly with ROPS for this problem. Can't you try the binary search to find the revision causing trouble? Are there any fpc defines in the ROPS sources? Where are the

Re: [fpc-pascal] -Xe and -Xi question

2006-11-01 Thread Peter Vreman
At 21:23 1-11-2006, you wrote: I all, when using -Xe option DBG is working, but when using -Xi it is not. Is it normal? (Using an old 3823 revision.) It works with current SVN. Peter ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org ht

Re: [fpc-pascal] ROPS and latest FPC compiler (svn)

2006-11-01 Thread Alexandre Leclerc
2006/11/1, Florian Klaempfl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Alexandre Leclerc schrieb: > > For now, the only thing I'm sure about is that with version 2.0.4 of > the compiler it is working correctly with ROPS for this problem. > Can't you try the binary search to find the revision causing trouble? Are ther

Re: [fpc-pascal] -Xe and -Xi question

2006-11-01 Thread Alexandre Leclerc
2006/11/1, Peter Vreman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: At 21:23 1-11-2006, you wrote: >I all, > >when using -Xe option DBG is working, but when using -Xi it is not. Is >it normal? (Using an old 3823 revision.) It works with current SVN. Ok, I see; I tested the latest version and it works great. (Is it t

Re: [fpc-pascal] ROPS and latest FPC compiler (svn)

2006-11-01 Thread Peter Vreman
At 21:43 1-11-2006, you wrote: 2006/11/1, Florian Klaempfl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Alexandre Leclerc schrieb: > > For now, the only thing I'm sure about is that with version 2.0.4 of > the compiler it is working correctly with ROPS for this problem. > Can't you try the binary search to find the re

Re: [fpc-pascal] -Xe and -Xi question

2006-11-01 Thread Peter Vreman
At 21:47 1-11-2006, you wrote: 2006/11/1, Peter Vreman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: At 21:23 1-11-2006, you wrote: >I all, > >when using -Xe option DBG is working, but when using -Xi it is not. Is >it normal? (Using an old 3823 revision.) It works with current SVN. Ok, I see; I tested the latest vers

Re: [fpc-pascal] ROPS and latest FPC compiler (svn)

2006-11-01 Thread Jonas Maebe
On 01 Nov 2006, at 21:43, Alexandre Leclerc wrote: Binary search is complex because I have difficulties to get a FPC revision that will be able to compile latest Lazarus version... (unless I do not need to recompile my Laz each time but simple replacing the fpcsrc & pp folders?) Does ROPS dep

Re: [fpc-pascal] Eye Candy Contest

2006-11-01 Thread Marc Weustink
Michael Van Canneyt wrote: > > On Wed, 1 Nov 2006, Marc PERTRON wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I'd like to show to some people that FreePascal can do good graphical and >> efficient things :o) >> So I organise an eye candy contest, with some simple rules, and I'll give >> three rewards ($150, $100 and $50

Re: [fpc-pascal] Eye Candy Contest

2006-11-01 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Wed, 1 Nov 2006, Marc Weustink wrote: > Michael Van Canneyt wrote: > > > > On Wed, 1 Nov 2006, Marc PERTRON wrote: > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> I'd like to show to some people that FreePascal can do good graphical and > >> efficient things :o) > >> So I organise an eye candy contest, with some simp

Re: [fpc-pascal] ROPS and latest FPC compiler (svn)

2006-11-01 Thread Alexandre Leclerc
2006/11/1, Peter Vreman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: At 21:43 1-11-2006, you wrote: >2006/11/1, Florian Klaempfl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>Alexandre Leclerc schrieb: >> > >> > For now, the only thing I'm sure about is that with version 2.0.4 of >> > the compiler it is working correctly with ROPS for this pr

Re: [fpc-pascal] ROPS and latest FPC compiler (svn)

2006-11-01 Thread Alexandre Leclerc
2006/11/1, Jonas Maebe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: On 01 Nov 2006, at 21:43, Alexandre Leclerc wrote: > Binary search is complex because I have difficulties to get a FPC > revision that will be able to compile latest Lazarus version... > (unless I do not need to recompile my Laz each time but simple >

Re: [fpc-pascal] Eye Candy Contest

2006-11-01 Thread Neil Graham
Marc PERTRON wrote: The rules : -The program MUST : *Compile and work in fullscreen mode under Ubuntu 6.10 (i386), in at least 640x480, 800x600 and 1024x768 with Gnome or KDE I'd recommend saying fullscreen in at least 640x480, 800x600 _OR_ 1024x768. If you are using 3d style rendering then

Re: [fpc-pascal] Linux Install: Is it me or the documentation? ;-)

2006-11-01 Thread Lev Lafayette
On Wed, 2006-11-01 at 16:36 +0700, Bisma Jayadi wrote: > > Mmm... shiny. > > Maybe you should try Lazarus as well, a GUI-RAD based on Free Pascal (FPC). > > http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/ > > If you're familiar with Delphi, you might thought Lazarus is a Delphi-like > IDE > for FPC. Lazaru

Re: [fpc-pascal] Eye Candy Contest

2006-11-01 Thread Marc PERTRON
Neil Graham a écrit : I'd recommend saying fullscreen in at least 640x480, 800x600 _OR_ 1024x768. If you are using 3d style rendering then resolution changes are not much of an issue. But if you are going for 2d and bitmap effects, often the best results come from designing for a particula

Re: [fpc-pascal] Eye Candy Contest

2006-11-01 Thread Steve Williams
Marc PERTRON wrote: Neil Graham a écrit : I'd recommend saying fullscreen in at least 640x480, 800x600 _OR_ 1024x768. If you are using 3d style rendering then resolution changes are not much of an issue. But if you are going for 2d and bitmap effects, often the best results come from des

Re: [fpc-pascal] Eye Candy Contest

2006-11-01 Thread Marc PERTRON
Steve Williams a écrit : What about displays that aren't your standard 4:3 ratio, such as my dual 1920x1200 widescreens or my 1024x600 handheld? Well, i ask *at least* the 3 resolutions i gave. You can do more... :o) Also, as i give the money i also give the minimal requirements and i think