At 09:17 +0200 27/4/06, Yves Barbion wrote:
I have done this by including the paragraph in a one-cell table. You can
make a dedicated table format (with bottom ruling only) and resize it to the
width of the cell's contents.
I have faced the same problem, and can confirm that Yves' suggestion is
At 9:18 PM -0500 4/26/06, Peter Gold wrote:
Hi, Bill, Dan, and all:
At 8:46 PM -0300 4/26/06, Bill Briggs wrote:
Yeah, it would be a really great thing to have all of FrameMaker's hypertext
capabilities survive to PDF. But we'll see a plethora of tiny little
Photoshop-style pallets before we'll
As Yves mentioned, this could be made possible (and practical) with
FrameScript. Otherwise, it is probably not worth the trouble.
Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com
Hi all,
Is there a way to create a rule below a paragraph that has a variable
length? That is,
Hi, Bill:
At 8:23 AM -0300 4/27/06, Bill Briggs wrote:
At 7:14 AM -0400 4/27/06, Batsford, Steve wrote:
Rick,
My sentiment exactly.
The popups and all of the available links SOUND cool. But in the real
world all my content to my end users is in PDF.
There used to be a product called
Is there a way to create a rule below a paragraph that has a
variable length? That is, its length is adjusted according to the
amount of text on the line, in the paragraph above.
This is one of those frilly font-twiddler typographic things that
InDesign can do without blinking twice. Or even
If I remember correctly, there was a smaller footprint program called
FrameReader that could be used to view FrameMaker documents. I think it was
less expensive than FrameViewer.
Rick
FrameViewer was FrameMaker, just crippled to prevent authoring. It was
expensive to purchase for just a
On 27 Apr 2006, at 03:18, Peter Gold wrote:
I'm not sure if you'd find it by digging in Wikipedia, but to put your
point in context, it helps to know that in the early days of unix and
FrameMaker, as with the early days of CP/M, each hardware manufacturer
had a proprietary version of the OS,
At 6:42 AM -0500 4/27/06, Peter Gold wrote:
Hi, Bill:
At 8:23 AM -0300 4/27/06, Bill Briggs wrote:
At 7:14 AM -0400 4/27/06, Batsford, Steve wrote:
Rick,
My sentiment exactly.
The popups and all of the available links SOUND cool. But in the real
world all my content to my end users is in PDF.
David Levy wrote:
I'm at the point where, if a client wants the work done in
Word, I build it in FM, PDF it, and then use an OCR program
to convert it to Word. The results are better than FM's
Save as feature.
shudder / OCR??? The PDF contains *real words*, not an *image* of the
At 08:31 -0700 27/4/06, Guy K. Haas wrote:
But Visio 2003 does not offer .eps among its save-as options. The most
desirable of the offerings (for line drawings) seem to be .gif, .png, and
.svg[z]. My guess would be .svg because it's vector.
Any guidance on
1. whether FrameMaker can embed
We also use a lot of Visio drawings, but do not yet have Visio 2003 so
can not comment on any improvement (or lack thereof) for exporting to
other file types.
Our highest quality comes when we print Visio to press-ready PDFs, then
open in Acrobat, crop as needed, and save as EPS.
The only
Guy,
I know that folks will likely tell you that it's not the recommended way,
but I have embedded Visio objects into a couple of FM books successfully. I
learned about it from another list member (John, are you out there?), and it
has been fine.
Other than that, the recommended procedure is
For what it's worth, I haven't had any troubles either embedding Visio
objects and I've done it numerous times in several books.
Nicole
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Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 9:53 AM
To:
This is not a problem.
I have Visio 2003 (SP2) and it allows me to export as tif, gif, png. You
can check to see if the quality is a problem, but you don't have to do
that at all, really. You can import the vsd file as an object into
FrameMaker.
Click File Import Object.
In the Insert Object
I find it interesting that a few of you are saving your illustrations as
EPS instead of leaving them as PDF and importing that into Frame. Is
there an advantage to using EPS? I didn't even know you could save as
EPS in Acrobat.
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Hi, Richard
Combs, Richard wrote:
David Levy wrote:
I'm at the point where, if a client wants the work done in
Word, I build it in FM, PDF it, and then use an OCR program
to convert it to Word. The results are better than FM's
Save as feature.
shudder / OCR??? The PDF contains *real
It depends on the version of Acrobat. In older versions you had to use
the
FileExport command to turn a PDF into an EPS. In Acrobat 7.0, you
do it right from the Save As dialog. Just be sure you click the
Settings
button right below the Save as type list box so that you can properly
OmniPage 15 is about the best OCR program out there, and it is nearly
perfect., if you're going to OCR anything.
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Behalf Of Combs, Richard
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 12:37 PM
To: David Levy; Framers List; Free
Neil,
Frame turns all images into EPS (even PDF) when it rips them. Therefore,
if you have many images, you might run into performance issues if using
formats other than EPS.
-bob
__
Robert Kern
President, TIPS Technical Publishing, Inc.
108 E. Main Street,
NeXT even bundled FrameMaker 3.x with its machines.
I don't remember FrameMaker being bundled with NeXT boxes. Was it a
trial version? We bought all of our licenses (could have been a site
license). Should I call tech support?
I remember the word processor Write Now was bundled.
It was
Hi all,
I've been lurking on the digest version for a couple of months now, and have
really appreciated everyone's contributions.
Now I have a couple of questions relating to default settings on importing
files. I mainly work on user's guides with walk-through type instructions
with many
Syed Zaeem Hosain wrote:
Hmmm ... I would be surprised if he is using a true image
OCR program. I suspect a mis-speak! :)
Perhaps you're right. But in fact, there's no _other_ kind of OCR
program. OCR stands for optical character recognition. It's the
process of converting an _image_ or
Hi, Richard
Combs, Richard wrote:
Syed Zaeem Hosain wrote:
Hmmm ... I would be surprised if he is using a true image
OCR program. I suspect a mis-speak! :)
Perhaps you're right. But in fact, there's no _other_ kind of OCR
program. OCR stands for optical character recognition. It's the
There are two files (of about 12 in this book) which, when opened, and
then Paragraph Designer is opened, it causes FM to crash.
Anyone had a similar experience?
FM 7.0p576, Windows XP
Dennis Wilson
Technical Publications
Spirent Communications
Performance Analysis - Broadband
(818) 676-2358
Dennis,
Try saving the documents as MIF. Open the MIFs and save them over the FM
files and try it again.
Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com
There are two files (of about 12 in this book) which, when opened, and
then Paragraph Designer is opened, it causes FM to
Thanks guys,
I thought it would not be possible. I really dislike the imposition
of using the table solution to create something like this, partly
because it would not be that much of a problem to add a parameter to
the Reference Frame that, say, made it a rubber length based on the
On Apr 28, 2006, at 9:56 AM, Scott Prentice wrote:
This may be too obvious, and not customizable, but the use of a
Numeric Underline does basically what you're asking for (as long as
the line doesn't wrap).
Might have been an option if one were able to adjust the distance of
the
On Apr 27, 2006, at 12:41 AM, Beck, Charles wrote:
> Is anyone at Adobe listening?
>
We did have an evangelist from Adobe, but he has been somewhat silent
on this.
Alan
Hi all,
Is there a way to create a rule below a paragraph that has a variable
length? That is, its length is adjusted according to the amount of
text on the line, in the paragraph above.
Thanks
Alan
Hello Alan,
I have done this by including the paragraph in a one-cell table. You can
make a dedicated table format (with bottom ruling only) and resize it to the
width of the cell's contents.
I guess it must be possible to run a Framescript every now and then to
resize ALL these tables in a
At 09:17 +0200 27/4/06, Yves Barbion wrote:
>I have done this by including the paragraph in a one-cell table. You can
>make a dedicated table format (with bottom ruling only) and resize it to the
>width of the cell's contents.
I have faced the same problem, and can confirm that Yves' suggestion
At 9:18 PM -0500 4/26/06, Peter Gold wrote:
>Hi, Bill, Dan, and all:
>
>At 8:46 PM -0300 4/26/06, Bill Briggs wrote:
>>Yeah, it would be a really great thing to have all of FrameMaker's hypertext
>>capabilities survive to PDF. But we'll see a plethora of tiny little
>>Photoshop-style pallets
At 7:14 AM -0400 4/27/06, Batsford, Steve wrote:
>Rick,
>
>My sentiment exactly.
>The popups and all of the available links SOUND cool. But in the real
>world all my content to my end users is in PDF.
There used to be a product called FrameViewer, and you could view other
people's FrameMaker
As Yves mentioned, this could be made possible (and practical) with
FrameScript. Otherwise, it is probably not worth the trouble.
Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com
> Hi all,
>
> Is there a way to create a rule below a paragraph that has a variable
> length? That
Hi, Bill:
At 8:23 AM -0300 4/27/06, Bill Briggs wrote:
>At 7:14 AM -0400 4/27/06, Batsford, Steve wrote:
>>Rick,
>>
>>My sentiment exactly.
>>The popups and all of the available links SOUND cool. But in the real
>>world all my content to my end users is in PDF.
>
> There used to be a product
>Is there a way to create a rule below a paragraph that has a
>variable length? That is, its length is adjusted according to the
>amount of text on the line, in the paragraph above.
This is one of those "frilly font-twiddler typographic things" that
InDesign can do without blinking twice. Or
If I remember correctly, there was a smaller footprint program called
FrameReader that could be used to view FrameMaker documents. I think it was
less expensive than FrameViewer.
Rick
> FrameViewer was FrameMaker, just crippled to prevent authoring. It was
> expensive to purchase for just a
On 27 Apr 2006, at 03:18, Peter Gold wrote:
>
> I'm not sure if you'd find it by digging in Wikipedia, but to put your
> point in context, it helps to know that in the early days of unix and
> FrameMaker, as with the early days of CP/M, each hardware manufacturer
> had a proprietary version of
At 6:42 AM -0500 4/27/06, Peter Gold wrote:
>Hi, Bill:
>
>At 8:23 AM -0300 4/27/06, Bill Briggs wrote:
>>At 7:14 AM -0400 4/27/06, Batsford, Steve wrote:
>>>Rick,
>>>
>>>My sentiment exactly.
>>>The popups and all of the available links SOUND cool. But in the real
>>>world all my content to my end
My developers give me design files in Word containing embedded Visio
objects to show UML and the like. While there are not very many, I
WOULD like to use as delayed a binding as possible, to facilitate the
updating of such drawings from (ever?)-changing engineering docs.
I do not believe one
David Levy wrote:
> I'm at the point where, if a client wants the work done in
> Word, I build it in FM, PDF it, and then use an OCR program
> to convert it to Word. The results are better than FM's
> "Save as" feature.
OCR??? The PDF contains *real words*, not an *image* of the
words!
At 08:31 -0700 27/4/06, Guy K. Haas wrote:
>But Visio 2003 does not offer .eps among its save-as options. The most
>desirable of the offerings (for line drawings) seem to be .gif, .png, and
>.svg[z]. My guess would be .svg because it's vector.
>
>Any guidance on
>1. whether FrameMaker can
We also use a lot of Visio drawings, but do not yet have Visio 2003 so
can not comment on any improvement (or lack thereof) for exporting to
other file types.
Our highest quality comes when we print Visio to press-ready PDFs, then
open in Acrobat, crop as needed, and save as EPS.
The only
Guy,
I know that folks will likely tell you that it's not the recommended way,
but I have embedded Visio objects into a couple of FM books successfully. I
learned about it from another list member (John, are you out there?), and it
has been fine.
Other than that, the recommended procedure is
For what it's worth, I haven't had any troubles either embedding Visio
objects and I've done it numerous times in several books.
Nicole
-Original Message-
From:
framers-bounces+nicole.hales-crotchett=lmco.com at lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+nicole.hales-crotchett=lmco.com
This is not a problem.
I have Visio 2003 (SP2) and it allows me to export as tif, gif, png. You
can check to see if the quality is a problem, but you don't have to do
that at all, really. You can import the vsd file as an object into
FrameMaker.
Click File > Import > Object.
In the Insert
I find it interesting that a few of you are saving your illustrations as
EPS instead of leaving them as PDF and importing that into Frame. Is
there an advantage to using EPS? I didn't even know you could save as
EPS in Acrobat.
-Original Message-
From:
Hi, Richard
Combs, Richard wrote:
> David Levy wrote:
>> I'm at the point where, if a client wants the work done in
>> Word, I build it in FM, PDF it, and then use an OCR program
>> to convert it to Word. The results are better than FM's
>> "Save as" feature.
>
> OCR??? The PDF contains
It depends on the version of Acrobat. In older versions you had to use
the
File>Export command to turn a PDF into an EPS. In Acrobat 7.0, you
do it right from the Save As dialog. Just be sure you click the
Settings
button right below the "Save as type" list box so that you can properly
OmniPage 15 is about the best OCR program out there, and it is nearly
perfect., if you're going to OCR anything.
-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+convextech=alltel@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+convextech=alltel.net at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Combs,
At 8:17 AM -0400 4/27/06, Rick Quatro wrote:
>If I remember correctly, there was a smaller footprint program
>called FrameReader that could be used to view FrameMaker documents.
>I think it was less expensive than FrameViewer.
I think it was FV with even more FrameMaker stuff removed. As
>> NeXT even bundled FrameMaker 3.x with its machines.
>
>I don't remember FrameMaker being bundled with NeXT boxes. Was it a
>trial version? We bought all of our licenses (could have been a site
>license). Should I call tech support?
>
>I remember the word processor Write Now was bundled.
It
Hi all,
I've been lurking on the digest version for a couple of months now, and have
really appreciated everyone's contributions.
Now I have a couple of questions relating to default settings on importing
files. I mainly work on user's guides with walk-through type instructions
with many
Syed Zaeem Hosain wrote:
> Hmmm ... I would be surprised if he is using a true "image"
> OCR program. I suspect a mis-speak! :)
Perhaps you're right. But in fact, there's no _other_ kind of OCR
program. OCR stands for "optical character recognition." It's the
process of converting an _image_
Hi, Richard
Combs, Richard wrote:
> Syed Zaeem Hosain wrote:
>
>> Hmmm ... I would be surprised if he is using a true "image"
>> OCR program. I suspect a mis-speak! :)
>
> Perhaps you're right. But in fact, there's no _other_ kind of OCR
> program. OCR stands for "optical character
There are two files (of about 12 in this book) which, when opened, and
then Paragraph Designer is opened, it causes FM to crash.
Anyone had a similar experience?
FM 7.0p576, Windows XP
Dennis Wilson
Technical Publications
Spirent Communications
Performance Analysis - Broadband
(818) 676-2358
Dennis,
Try saving the documents as MIF. Open the MIFs and save them over the FM
files and try it again.
Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com
There are two files (of about 12 in this book) which, when opened, and
then Paragraph Designer is opened, it causes FM to
This may be too obvious, and not customizable, but the use of a Numeric
Underline does basically what you're asking for (as long as the line
doesn't wrap).
In addition to the table method described, I've also seen this done
using an anchored frame (At Insertion Point) at the end of the
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