FM to pdf-bookmarks expansion

2008-06-12 Thread Shlomo Perets
Radha, You wrote: >FM 7.0 with XP. Acrobat Professional6.0, Distiller6.0 >I try to save my FM Book as pdf or print to postscript and then make pdf. >In the pdf settings dialog box, in the 'Bookmarks' tab, I select >'None' for Bookmarks expanded through level' check box. But still it >expands the

Re: MS Word vs. Frame

2008-06-12 Thread Angela Akridge
I convinced them to use Frame. I kinda said, "no way in hell" am I gonna recommend Word. My basis was exactly what this group pointed out: they aren't using the Word capabilities that are required (e.g. styles, etc), so if I'm gonna train the pm, I might as well train him on Frame. I also scared hi

MS Word vs. Frame

2008-06-12 Thread Angela Akridge
I convinced them to use Frame. I kinda said, "no way in hell" am I gonna recommend Word. My basis was exactly what this group pointed out: they aren't using the Word capabilities that are required (e.g. styles, etc), so if I'm gonna train the pm, I might as well train him on Frame. I also scared hi

disagreement on overrides

2008-06-12 Thread Art Campbell
Well, I'm with you and your approach simply because it makes it much easier to work on and to ensure consistency, because only the person who created them knows what the override is supposed to do. There's also the possibility that the override will be interpreted somewhat differently than its int

disagreement on overrides

2008-06-12 Thread Peter Gold
The only good argument I've seen for overrides as a normal way of working is to control breaks across frames, columns, and pages, for a particular round of publication. They can be removed in one operation by importing a document's formats to itself, and choosing to remove overrides. Before saving

New figure object [was "Re: table and figure captions"]

2008-06-12 Thread Hedley Finger
Fred Ridder wrote: > I think it would be a great idea if we could treat anchored > frames as embedded objects with similar properties to tables. But I do > think it would want to be implemented for anchored frames generically > rather than just for figures since some documents use anchored frames >

disagreement on overrides

2008-06-12 Thread Milan Davidovic
The way I've been "brought up" as a Frame user was to avoid overrides wherever possible. I'm now working with a writer who is much more liberal about overrides than I am. We currently work only on unstructured Frame documents; output is PDF (to print from or for use onscreen). Right now, we're the

Framemaker - fraction symbols

2008-06-12 Thread Teasdale, Steven (GE EntSol, Digital Energy)
Hi Bill The 2/3 fraction is not part of the standard 8-bit ASCII character set (first 256 characters). However, it is available as Unicode character U+2154 in many Unicode-enabled fonts, such as the default Arial font that comes with Windows. I'm not sure how to enter it directly in FM8, but yo

RE: disagreement on overrides

2008-06-12 Thread Syed.Hosain
> The way I've been "brought up" as a Frame user was to avoid overrides > wherever possible. I'm now working with a writer who is much more > liberal about overrides than I am. We currently work only on > unstructured Frame documents; output is PDF (to print from or for use > onscreen). Right now,

disagreement on overrides

2008-06-12 Thread syed.hos...@aeris.net
> The way I've been "brought up" as a Frame user was to avoid overrides > wherever possible. I'm now working with a writer who is much more > liberal about overrides than I am. We currently work only on > unstructured Frame documents; output is PDF (to print from or for use > onscreen). Right now,

Re: disagreement on overrides

2008-06-12 Thread Susan Modlin
I think the key to the question is why the other writer is using overrides. We all know it's pretty much an article of faith that thou shalt not use overrides for anything other than controlling page breaks, as Peter notes. So why is the other writer overriding? I can think of three reasons for

disagreement on overrides

2008-06-12 Thread Susan Modlin
I think the key to the question is why the other writer is using overrides. We all know it's pretty much an article of faith that thou shalt not use overrides for anything other than controlling page breaks, as Peter notes. So why is the other writer overriding? I can think of three reasons for

disagreement on overrides

2008-06-12 Thread Combs, Richard
Milan Davidovic wrote: > The way I've been "brought up" as a Frame user was to avoid overrides > wherever possible. I'm now working with a writer who is much more > liberal about overrides than I am. We currently work only on > unstructured Frame documents; output is PDF (to print from or for use

Re: disagreement on overrides

2008-06-12 Thread Peter Gold
The only good argument I've seen for overrides as a normal way of working is to control breaks across frames, columns, and pages, for a particular round of publication. They can be removed in one operation by importing a document's formats to itself, and choosing to remove overrides. Before saving

RE: disagreement on overrides

2008-06-12 Thread Combs, Richard
Milan Davidovic wrote: > The way I've been "brought up" as a Frame user was to avoid overrides > wherever possible. I'm now working with a writer who is much more > liberal about overrides than I am. We currently work only on > unstructured Frame documents; output is PDF (to print from or for use

Re: disagreement on overrides

2008-06-12 Thread Art Campbell
Well, I'm with you and your approach simply because it makes it much easier to work on and to ensure consistency, because only the person who created them knows what the override is supposed to do. There's also the possibility that the override will be interpreted somewhat differently than its int

disagreement on overrides

2008-06-12 Thread Milan Davidovic
The way I've been "brought up" as a Frame user was to avoid overrides wherever possible. I'm now working with a writer who is much more liberal about overrides than I am. We currently work only on unstructured Frame documents; output is PDF (to print from or for use onscreen). Right now, we're the

RE: Framemaker - fraction symbols

2008-06-12 Thread Teasdale, Steven (GE EntSol, Digital Energy)
Hi Bill The 2/3 fraction is not part of the standard 8-bit ASCII character set (first 256 characters). However, it is available as Unicode character U+2154 in many Unicode-enabled fonts, such as the default Arial font that comes with Windows. I'm not sure how to enter it directly in FM8, but yo

New figure object [was "Re: table and figure captions"]

2008-06-12 Thread Hedley Finger
Deirdre Reagan wrote: > Does anyone know why FM automatically makes Table captions but not > Figure captions? > You have had your answer elsewhere on this list. But, seriously, why isn't there a figure object that is similar to a one-celled table, which is a pain to set up. The new figure o

Blank Pages in Online Help

2008-06-12 Thread Combs, Richard
Melissa Di Natale > Right now in my Frame documents I have no blank pages (I have it set so > that any empty pages are deleted). But when I convert in Webworks for > online help I'm getting a blank page at the end of every chapter. Does > anybody know how to get rid of this? I'm wondering if it's

Blank Pages in Online Help

2008-06-12 Thread Melissa Di Natale
Hi Guys, Right now in my Frame documents I have no blank pages (I have it set so that any empty pages are deleted). But when I convert in Webworks for online help I'm getting a blank page at the end of every chapter. Does anybody know how to get rid of this? I'm wondering if it's because I have

FM to pdf-bookmarks expansion

2008-06-12 Thread Nidhi Bansal
Hi, I too have the same version applications. I tried deselecting the Bookmarks while saving my Book as PDF it works properly. You can try again with these settings in the Bookmark Tag: Unchecked the "Generated PDF Book" Empty the list if it is in "Include" frame Unchecked the "Include Paragraph

RE: Blank Pages in Online Help

2008-06-12 Thread Combs, Richard
Melissa Di Natale > Right now in my Frame documents I have no blank pages (I have it set so > that any empty pages are deleted). But when I convert in Webworks for > online help I'm getting a blank page at the end of every chapter. Does > anybody know how to get rid of this? I'm wondering if it's

FM to pdf-bookmarks expansion

2008-06-12 Thread Radha Padmanabhan
Hi Framers, FM 7.0 with XP. Acrobat Professional6.0, Distiller6.0 I try to save my FM Book as pdf or print to postscript and then make pdf. In the pdf settings dialog box, in the 'Bookmarks' tab, I select 'None' for Bookmarks expanded through level' check box. But still it expands the bookmarks i

Blank Pages in Online Help

2008-06-12 Thread Melissa Di Natale
Hi Guys, Right now in my Frame documents I have no blank pages (I have it set so that any empty pages are deleted). But when I convert in Webworks for online help I'm getting a blank page at the end of every chapter. Does anybody know how to get rid of this? I'm wondering if it's because I have

Framemaker - fraction symbols

2008-06-12 Thread Bill Stevens
Hi Framers, I am trying to find a two-thirds fraction character/symbol for FrameMaker 8. At the moment I am typing 2/3 but it looks yuk! I have nice fractions for ¼ (Alt+0188) and ½ (Alt+0189) but 2/3 escapes me. Can anyone help? Thanks Bill Kratos Analytical Ltd, Wharfside, Trafford Wha

MS Word vs. Frame

2008-06-12 Thread qui...@airmail.net
Basically they are incompetent with either tool, and your worst case scenario is that they are hopeless. This is what expert staff is supposed to do. I once had an employer comment on a recommendation to switch to structured Frame, since I was the only expert they had, with "...what do we do

Re: Converting fm files to xml

2008-06-12 Thread Lynne A. Price
Daniel, 1) Is another attribute written instead of the href attribute? 2) Are you sure your r/w rules are being read? It could be a search path issue. Does your application definition (probably in structapps.fm) specify a complete pathname for the rules file. (One simple way to verify that the

Converting fm files to xml

2008-06-12 Thread Lynne A. Price
Daniel, 1) Is another attribute written instead of the href attribute? 2) Are you sure your r/w rules are being read? It could be a search path issue. Does your application definition (probably in structapps.fm) specify a complete pathname for the rules file. (One simple way to verify that the

table and figure captions

2008-06-12 Thread Nidhi Bansal
Hi Deirdre, I am not sure whether this information will help you out or not Table Captions comes automatically, since in the Table>table Designer>Title Position or the Caption (as we r discussing) on the Basic tab it is set as Above Table/below table. You can set how the Table caption should

New figure object [was "Re: table and figure captions"]

2008-06-12 Thread Mike Wickham
> Yeah, it is so fun to (a) insert a single-celled table previously set up > as a format, (b) import a graphic file or create an anchored frame into > the single para in the cell, and (c) set the anchored frame to At > Insertion Point so you can get the spacing even all around, and then (d) > adjus

Re: FM to pdf-bookmarks expansion

2008-06-12 Thread Shlomo Perets
Radha, You wrote: >FM 7.0 with XP. Acrobat Professional6.0, Distiller6.0 >I try to save my FM Book as pdf or print to postscript and then make pdf. >In the pdf settings dialog box, in the 'Bookmarks' tab, I select >'None' for Bookmarks expanded through level' check box. But still it >expands the

question about open source DTP program

2008-06-12 Thread McCallister, Michael (GE Healthcare, consultant)
Deb, I'm planning to use Scribus to put together a project portfolio to post on my website and have in PDF form. I played with it quite a bit while writing "openSUSE Linux Unleashed." It is much more stable than it was a couple years ago, and should work quite well for brochures and such. It doesn

Re: RE: MS Word vs. Frame

2008-06-12 Thread quills
Basically they are incompetent with either tool, and your worst case scenario is that they are hopeless. This is what expert staff is supposed to do. I once had an employer comment on a recommendation to switch to structured Frame, since I was the only expert they had, with "...what do we do

question about open source DTP program

2008-06-12 Thread Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
Can't say I have. I tried it on my Linux a couple of years ago while still in its low 0. (which would mean Beta). It was very slow and rather buggy at that time. I have only heard of it since and the reputation is getting better. This is one of the applications that I would very much like to explo

Re: New figure object [was "Re: table and figure captions"]

2008-06-12 Thread Mike Wickham
> Yeah, it is so fun to (a) insert a single-celled table previously set up > as a format, (b) import a graphic file or create an anchored frame into > the single para in the cell, and (c) set the anchored frame to At > Insertion Point so you can get the spacing even all around, and then (d) > adjus

RE: question about open source DTP program

2008-06-12 Thread McCallister, Michael (GE Healthcare, consultant)
Deb, I'm planning to use Scribus to put together a project portfolio to post on my website and have in PDF form. I played with it quite a bit while writing "openSUSE Linux Unleashed." It is much more stable than it was a couple years ago, and should work quite well for brochures and such. It doesn

AUTO: John Pilla is unavailable. (returning 16-06-2008)

2008-06-12 Thread John Pilla
I am out of the office until 16-06-2008. I am on vacation and not available until Monday, 16 June. (Visiting the island of Brigadoon . . . . . ) Note: This is an automated response to your message "Framers Digest, Vol 32, Issue 12" sent on 6/12/08 3:00:01. This is the only notification you w

Re: question about open source DTP program

2008-06-12 Thread Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
Can't say I have. I tried it on my Linux a couple of years ago while still in its low 0. (which would mean Beta). It was very slow and rather buggy at that time. I have only heard of it since and the reputation is getting better. This is one of the applications that I would very much like to explo

New figure object [was "Re: table and figure captions"]

2008-06-12 Thread Fred Ridder
Responding to Deirdre Reagan's original query, Hedley Finger wrote (in small part): > Deirdre Reagan wrote: > > Does anyone know why FM automatically makes Table captions but not > > Figure captions? > > You have had your answer elsewhere on this list. But, seriously, why > isn't there a figure

AUTO: John Pilla is unavailable. (returning 16-06-2008)

2008-06-12 Thread John Pilla
I am out of the office until 16-06-2008. I am on vacation and not available until Monday, 16 June. (Visiting the island of Brigadoon . . . . . ) Note: This is an automated response to your message "Framers Digest, Vol 32, Issue 12" sent on 6/12/08 3:00:01. This is the only notification you w

Re: New figure object [was "Re: table and figure captions"]

2008-06-12 Thread Hedley Finger
Fred Ridder wrote: > I think it would be a great idea if we could treat anchored > frames as embedded objects with similar properties to tables. But I do > think it would want to be implemented for anchored frames generically > rather than just for figures since some documents use anchored frames >

RE: FM to pdf-bookmarks expansion

2008-06-12 Thread Nidhi Bansal
Hi, I too have the same version applications. I tried deselecting the Bookmarks while saving my Book as PDF it works properly. You can try again with these settings in the Bookmark Tag: Unchecked the "Generated PDF Book" Empty the list if it is in "Include" frame Unchecked the "Include Paragraph

FM to pdf-bookmarks expansion

2008-06-12 Thread Radha Padmanabhan
Hi Framers, FM 7.0 with XP. Acrobat Professional6.0, Distiller6.0 I try to save my FM Book as pdf or print to postscript and then make pdf. In the pdf settings dialog box, in the 'Bookmarks' tab, I select 'None' for Bookmarks expanded through level' check box. But still it expands the bookmarks i