On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 14:58:51 -0700, "Callie Bertsche"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>- Have other products sharpened their competitive edge since our last
>tool decision (a few years ago)? For instance, comparisons with MadCap
>or Flare?
>
>In considering a new product, I know immediately I value t
On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 14:58:51 -0700, "Callie Bertsche"
wrote:
>- Have other products sharpened their competitive edge since our last
>tool decision (a few years ago)? For instance, comparisons with MadCap
>or Flare?
>
>In considering a new product, I know immediately I value the following:
>
>-
On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 08:46:29 -0700, Dov Isaacs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I hardly see how your request is related to "natural
>justice" any more or less than a request to also allow simultaneous
>activation of the same license of FrameMaker on computers used by other
>members of your family.
On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 08:46:29 -0700, Dov Isaacs wrote:
>I hardly see how your request is related to "natural
>justice" any more or less than a request to also allow simultaneous
>activation of the same license of FrameMaker on computers used by other
>members of your family.
Really, Dov? The f
FontLab is a newer font creation/editing program. It looks like they now own
Fontographer as well.
http://www.fontlab.com/
Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com
>>>A common solution would be to create a font (Fontographer, etc.) that
> contains your graphics assig
>>A common solution would be to create a font (Fontographer, etc.) that
contains your graphics assigned to individual characters. <<
Don't waste your money on Fontographer. It's too old. It won't run on
Windows XP computers with more than 384K (if I remember correctly) of
memory.
Mike Wickham
Maxwell, I saw a post in yesterday's digest (from Milan D)asking about an
unanswered post from you regarding pasting Greek characters into Frame dialog
boxes (indexing in your case, I think).
I had a similar post some time ago and one of the responses I got suggested
that tho the characters wo
Robert Rogge wrote:
> Is there any kind of plugin (or some other solution I don?t know about)
> that
> would allow me to map a graphic from a reference page to a character
> format
>
> What I would like to do is be able to select some text, apply the character
> format, and have a small inlin
I suspect for less than that upgrade to ePubPro you can get the full
Technical Communication Suite, and have Captivate & Acrobat 9 Pro Extended
to boot.
The TCS integration was developed to handle your Frame files by reference, &
easily handles your variables and conditions as defined in Frame.
L
I suspect for less than that upgrade to ePubPro you can get the full
Technical Communication Suite, and have Captivate & Acrobat 9 Pro Extended
to boot.
The TCS integration was developed to handle your Frame files by reference, &
easily handles your variables and conditions as defined in Frame.
L
Am 12.09.2008 um 10:44 schrieb Amnon Yaish:
> Does ID have
> anything comparable to a FM edd ?
A FrameMaker EDD is: validating structure rules combined with context-
aware, automatic, ready-for-print formatting.
InDesign has nothing like that.
If you (just) use an EDD to format XML documents
***Vendor post***
We just released Flare 4, which will do everything I suspect you need and
more. You can download a trial version at www.madcapsoftware.com and sign up
for a demo, if you want. The demo is good, in that it will shows you some of
what the product does.
We can certainly dynamically
***Vendor post***
We just released Flare 4, which will do everything I suspect you need and
more. You can download a trial version at www.madcapsoftware.com and sign up
for a demo, if you want. The demo is good, in that it will shows you some of
what the product does.
We can certainly dynamically
Hi Framaniacs ;)
I generate 10+ manuals from FrameMaker 7.2 into PDFs, with extensive
single sourcing material. Currently, I've been using WebWorks ePublisher
Pro 9.1 (I just did an old maintenance upgrade to 9.2, actually) to
generate several thousand help pages (between different
projects/produ
Hi Framaniacs ;)
I generate 10+ manuals from FrameMaker 7.2 into PDFs, with extensive
single sourcing material. Currently, I've been using WebWorks ePublisher
Pro 9.1 (I just did an old maintenance upgrade to 9.2, actually) to
generate several thousand help pages (between different
projects/produc
Thanks everyone, for the suggestions!
I went with the single-column, multiple rows table approach.
Now I get to beat WWP into submission!
-Michael
-Original Message-
From: quills at airmail.net [mailto:qui...@airmail.net]
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 1:34 PM
To: Michael O'Neill
C
Hello All,
I am new to the Framers group.
I develop the templates for the tech pubs group at my work. I have spent a
lot of time creating and maintaining templates and macros for WebWorks.
Several of our writers need to upgrade FM. I can't purchase FM7.2. This
would require the writers to upgrad
Kristy Nolan (Kristy.Nolan at wnco.com) suggested:
> What about a text inset, where the source document has the light grey
> background?
If that background in the source document is achieved via the master
page, it is not imported as part of a text inset. Text insets only pull
in the text that
A common solution would be to create a font (Fontographer, etc.) that
contains your graphics assigned to individual characters. Use the
appropriate letter, apply the character format, and you are done. (assuming
you can output the font wherever needed...)
-Matt Sullivan
GRAFIX Training, Inc.
714 9
Regarding the need to run Frame on multiple computers and manage
licenses: what about running Frame from a Citrix server? Is this an
option that Adobe supports for large installations?
Just curious,
Martin
Martin R. Smith
www.golehtek.com
The way I'd deal with it is your table method. The usual way to allow
or force row/table breaks across pages is to use a multi-row single
column table with reasonable size text snippets in each row. Then use
custom ruling to eliminate the inter-row rules so that it appears to
be a single row. Yes,
As someone who has faced that issue at a former job (users running our
single-license pkg on Citrix) I would think not. As I recall, the
well-written EULA contains language that prohibits serving a single-seat
license to multiple clients...Kelly.
-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@li
I'd make a table format and set it up that way. Then you don't have
any manual operations other than adding an additional row cell to
break across pages.
Scott
At 2:08 PM -0400 9/12/08, Art Campbell wrote:
>The way I'd deal with it is your table method. The usual way to allow
>or force row/tabl
What about a text inset, where the source document has the light grey
background?
-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Michael
O'Neill
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 1:03 PM
To: framers
Subject: Smart
OK Folks,
Here's a basic question for the gurus/experts. I've been using FM for a
number of years now, but recently I'm trying to do something that I
haven't done before so I'm not sure of the best way to achieve my
objective.
Context:
The document I am authoring from scratch is an entry-level t
Thanks everyone, for the suggestions!
I went with the single-column, multiple rows table approach.
Now I get to beat WWP into submission!
-Michael
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 1:34 PM
To: Michael O'Neill
Cc: fra
Michael O'Neill wrote:
> Inserting a one-cell table with a gray background wherever this type
of
> content appears. Problem (which may have its own solution): The one
> cell table is essentially 1 row, and it doesn't appear that you can
> break a row across a page.
This is the best solution, IM
Adobe (and many other companies) must learn that many writers use products on
different computers at different times, and their approach puts hurdles in the
way of honest customers. There must be a technological way to prevent the same
application from being used by two different people at the s
As someone who has faced that issue at a former job (users running our
single-license pkg on Citrix) I would think not. As I recall, the
well-written EULA contains language that prohibits serving a single-seat
license to multiple clients...Kelly.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'd make a table format and set it up that way. Then you don't have
any manual operations other than adding an additional row cell to
break across pages.
Scott
At 2:08 PM -0400 9/12/08, Art Campbell wrote:
>The way I'd deal with it is your table method. The usual way to allow
>or force row/tabl
Michael O'Neill wrote:
> Inserting a one-cell table with a gray background wherever this type
of
> content appears. Problem (which may have its own solution): The one
> cell table is essentially 1 row, and it doesn't appear that you can
> break a row across a page.
This is the best solution, IM
Kristy Nolan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) suggested:
> What about a text inset, where the source document has the light grey
> background?
If that background in the source document is achieved via the master
page, it is not imported as part of a text inset. Text insets only pull
in the text that is in
Regarding the need to run Frame on multiple computers and manage
licenses: what about running Frame from a Citrix server? Is this an
option that Adobe supports for large installations?
Just curious,
Martin
Martin R. Smith
www.golehtek.com
___
Yo
> Yes, over time a number of FrameMaker features have been incorporated into
> InDesign, but unless you are using none of FrameMaker's structured features
> (support for XML and DITA), and conditional text, equations, etc., InDesign
> won't satisfy your needs.
Adobe is going to be unveiling CS4 on
What about a text inset, where the source document has the light grey
background?
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael
O'Neill
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 1:03 PM
To: framers
Subject: Smart way to achieve goal in FM
OK Folks,
Her
The way I'd deal with it is your table method. The usual way to allow
or force row/table breaks across pages is to use a multi-row single
column table with reasonable size text snippets in each row. Then use
custom ruling to eliminate the inter-row rules so that it appears to
be a single row. Yes,
OK Folks,
Here's a basic question for the gurus/experts. I've been using FM for a
number of years now, but recently I'm trying to do something that I
haven't done before so I'm not sure of the best way to achieve my
objective.
Context:
The document I am authoring from scratch is an entry-level t
Respectfuilly,
That is the solution, not a policy that fails adapt to today's
technological reality...regards, Kelly.
-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of John Sgammato
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008
Graeme,
Are you using any xml / structured functionality on ID ? Does ID have
anything comparable to a FM edd ?
Amnon.
Graeme R Forbes (Graeme.Forbes at Colorado.EDU) said on 12/09/08 at 2:18 :
>Well, I've started to move from FM to ID, so that I do not remain
>forever stuck with G5 hardwar
Am 12.09.2008 um 00:17 schrieb Peter Gold:
> Hi, Dov:
>
> On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 3:37 PM, Dov Isaacs wrote:
>> To be very clear, although designed as a replacement for PageMaker,
>> InDesign
>> was certainly not designed by Adobe to be a "replacement for
>> FrameMaker."
>>
>> Yes, over time
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 9:59 AM, John Sgammato
wrote:
> For example, I guess there is a plug-in that can handle cross references?
> That would be helpful, but I don't know what it is or how to get it.
Try http://www.dtptools.com/product.asp?id=crin (only heard of it,
haven't used it)
--
Milan
I would love to know more from a slightly different angle: I am a sort of
InDesign "weekend warrior". I use InDesign for some side projects that I do for
fun. They'd be more fun if I could use more of my FM skills... For example, I
guess there is a plug-in that can handle cross references? That
As interesting as the thread on XML is (and it is), the OP didn't ask
anything about, or related to, XML. So we're experiencing some basic
thread drift.
He's asking about moving from a technical publishing tool to a
design-driven tool, but not providing any details on why, or what
features he uses
FWIW, the current implementation actually allows more than two installations,
but limits activation to two systems. Conceivably, you could deactivate the
first system, activate the third, and when done with the third, deactivate
it and reactivate the first.
Sure there is a way of assuring that a p
FWIW, the current implementation actually allows more than two installations,
but limits activation to two systems. Conceivably, you could deactivate the
first system, activate the third, and when done with the third, deactivate
it and reactivate the first.
Sure there is a way of assuring that a p
Maxwell, I saw a post in yesterday's digest (from Milan D)asking about an
unanswered post from you regarding pasting Greek characters into Frame dialog
boxes (indexing in your case, I think).
I had a similar post some time ago and one of the responses I got suggested
that tho the characters wo
This question goes back to what is the final output suppose to be? If
it is a b-c solution where eye appeal is needed to attract a sale or
something, then InDesign may be the way to go.
If it is a b-b model where the final output is for information or for
status reports or something like that
This time I agree fully with Art!
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 8:24 AM, Art Campbell wrote:
> As interesting as the thread on XML is (and it is), the OP didn't ask
> anything about, or related to, XML. So we're experiencing some basic
> thread drift.
>
> He's asking about moving from a technical publi
Respectfuilly,
That is the solution, not a policy that fails adapt to today's
technological reality...regards, Kelly.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Sgammato
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 10:48 AM
To: Dov Isaacs; framers; Graeme
Adobe (and many other companies) must learn that many writers use products on
different computers at different times, and their approach puts hurdles in the
way of honest customers. There must be a technological way to prevent the same
application from being used by two different people at the s
Graeme,
Don't count on getting that extra activation. The EULA is quite clear
in terms of how many systems - two - you may simultaneously install and
activate simultaneously and that you may legally only execute on one of
those at any time. I hardly see how your request is related to "natural
just
Graeme,
Don't count on getting that extra activation. The EULA is quite clear
in terms of how many systems - two - you may simultaneously install and
activate simultaneously and that you may legally only execute on one of
those at any time. I hardly see how your request is related to "natural
just
Hi Graeme,
FrameMaker now has "activation" with version 8.
Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com
> One really maddening issue is "activation". A single-user license
> only lets you have 2 activations, so if like me you have a home
> desktop, an office desktop, an
Using Frame 8, is possible, with the Text Edit Tracking feature, to collect
statistics on the changes in a document?
>From the Frame 8 Reviewer's Guide it looks like this is possible. If you
>compare version one of a document against version two, the updated version, of
>the same document, Fra
Using Frame 8, is possible, with the Text Edit Tracking feature, to collect
statistics on the changes in a document?
?
>From the Frame 8 Reviewer's Guide it looks like this is possible. If you
>compare version one of a document against version two, the updated version,?of
>the same document, Fra
Well, I've started to move from FM to ID, so that I do not remain
forever stuck with G5 hardware and Tiger. It's with immense
reluctance that I reward Adobe with more purchases after they dropped
MacFM...no, let's not get started on that.
The ID learning curve is much steeper. I bought FM3 i
Am 12.09.2008 um 00:17 schrieb Peter Gold:
> Hi, Dov:
>
> On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 3:37 PM, Dov Isaacs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> To be very clear, although designed as a replacement for PageMaker,
>> InDesign
>> was certainly not designed by Adobe to be a "replacement for
>> FrameMaker."
>>
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