Hi group
I'm using Fm9.0p255, Windows XP SP3.
I've got Fm files which contain Chinese text (OpenType font: Arial Unicode
MS). Everything looks OK, but when I update my Fm book (Edit Update Book)
and cross-references, the Chinese characters in cross-references become
question marks. I can fix
Yves,
From a company we purchased, I inherited FrameMaker 7 files for several
languages.
I do not have FM7. I went from FM6 to FM9 (TCS2 actually, I am now at
FM9.0p255).
The European languages I inherited open fine in FM9. Their cross
references looked great.
But, the Chinese and
Hi Yves,
One thing you might try. Create a character format that specifies the
correct font, and add this to the cross-reference building blocks.
Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-659-8267
r...@frameexpert.com
*** Frame Automation blog at http://frameautomation.com
Hi group
Can someone please explain to me why Adobe Acrobat 9 Standard (Full, no
update) costs:
- US $299 (216 EUR) when I buy it in the US Store
http://bit.ly/aXhtLv
- US $554 (401 EUR) when I buy it in a European Adobe Store
- http://bit.ly/dtOSd3
I called Customer Support in
You're welcome, Richard.
I don't think I mentioned Fm7 in my original post, did I? And I don't know
who advised you to get Fm7 (and I don't want to know), but that piece of
advice just doesn't make any sense at all because:
- Fm7 does not support Unicode.
- I don't think you can buy Fm7
Hi Rick
Right on! I've created a dedicated character format xref which uses Arial
Unicode MS as font, and everything is fine now.
Thank you very much!
PS: Are you going to tekom tcworld next week? If you are, I'll buy you a
beer (or two).
Cheers
--
Yves Barbion
www.scripto.nu
On Thu, Oct
Wow! That is awesome bafflegab.
*scratches head*
Nadine
--- On Thu, 10/28/10, Yves Barbion yves.barb...@gmail.com wrote:
From: Yves Barbion yves.barb...@gmail.com
Subject: [Bulk] [OT] Adobe's pricing policy
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Date: Thursday, October 28, 2010, 10:03 AM
Hi
Hi,
I have elements like this one falsexref linkend=RE15report
15/falsexref which are defined in the DTD as normal elements.
Now, I have been asked to convert them all to native FrameMaker xref
elements, (with the correct xref format if possible).
As there are hundreds if not thousands of these
All,
I have a Frame document that I am converting to RoboHelp; I was doing some
reading about how to perform this task and came across a suggestion that
instead of performing a full conversion, that it is better to link a Frame
document to RoboHelp – great idea! This should make subsequent
Does Belgium have a VAT?
But why bother with 9? X is shipping...
Art Campbell
art.campb...@gmail.com
... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52
Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson
No
View Options Graphics
Art Campbell
art.campb...@gmail.com
... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52
Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson
No disclaimers apply.
Could it be that European countries impose huge taxes on Adobe and they're
passing along those taxes to the customer?
Thank you,
Gillian Flato
Technical Writer (Software)
nanometrics
1550 Buckeye Dr.
Milpitas, CA. 95035
9408.545.6316
408.232.5911
4 gfl...@nanometrics.com
Well Done is
Morgan Saarikoski wrote:
I have a Frame document that I am converting to RoboHelp; I was doing some
reading about how to perform this task and came across a suggestion that
instead of performing a full conversion, that it is better to link a Frame
document to RoboHelp - great idea! This
But why bother with 9? X is shipping...
Say what? When? And are they really going to call it X instead of 10?
Mike Wickham
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I had this same situation on this list some time back.
I said this on the list on 18 October, 2009 (http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/2009-October/018261.html
)
Can anyone explain to me why it is that Adobe charges USD399 for the
upgrade of FrameMaker to version 9 for domestic
I saw that too: Acrobat X.
Sounds either mysterious or halfway to pornographic - which I doubt was their
intent.
Sometimes you shoot yourself in the foot trying to be cute.
Alison
Alison Craig, Technical Writer
Ultrasonix Medical Corporation
Tel: (604) 279-8550, ext 127
E-mail:
If Acrobat X is about to ship, can FrameMaker X be far behind?
Maybe I should start trying to convince my company that once FM X ships
we will have fallen out of the cheap (relatively) upgrade window from FM
7.0.
Clint
Clint Owen | Sr. Technical Writer | Crane Aerospace Electronics | +1
425
On 29/10/2010, at 8:08 AM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) wrote:
My only [usual] gripe is with the upgrade pricing (like all Adobe
upgrades!). It is $199 regardless of whether you have Acrobat 9 Pro
*or* Acrobat 9 Pro Extended to go to Acrobat X Pro (there is only
one X
Most of our company is still using Windows XP and FrameMaker 7.
The IT group has set up a Windows 7 PC for testing, including FM 7.0,
with patch 579.
I have been using this setup through a remote desktop connection for
some of my unstructured FM documents. All seems well except for
seemingly
Acrobat X is not shipping yet nor has Adobe committed to a November 1 ship date.
It is pronounced Acrobat Ten - as usual, it's a marketing thing ...
- Dov
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From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of
Can you buy it from a US store?
Your chat log sounds like a support bot. Either that or Daryll has
been watching too many Ed Wood movies.
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 10:03 AM, Yves Barbion yves.barb...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi group
Can someone please explain to me why Adobe Acrobat 9 Standard (Full,
How about the software application formerly known as Adobe Framemaker? (Ya'
know, like the artist formerly known as Prince for all you old-timers out
there - dating myself I know!!)
TVB
Tammy Van Boening
Owner/Principal
Spectrum Writing, LLC
www.spectrumwritingllc.com
i...@spectrumwritingllc.com
Well, I have to thank Dov for clarifying the numbering thing because I
thought Acrobat X (pronounced 10) meant a return to version two! 8^0.
Alan
On 29/10/2010, at 10:14 AM, Spectrum Writing wrote:
How about the software application formerly known as Adobe
Framemaker? (Ya'
know, like the
And if someone says, I'm an Acrobat X user, are they bragging or
disgruntled? :)
Mike Wickham
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Well, darn. I misread the original message and thought you were talking
about FrameMaker 10 coming out. I knew about Acrobat X. Good luck getting
people to pronounce it as Acrobat 10. I still hear people say OSX instead of
OS 10. What a stupid naming idea. You just know some bug will be found
Mike Wickham wrote:
And if someone says, I'm an Acrobat X user, are they bragging or
disgruntled? :)
Well, it does offer Adobe a great new marketing opportunity: sponsoring the
Acrobat X Games.
(Sorry, but Friday's getting close!)
Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
Yves Barbion wrote:
Hi group
Can someone please explain to me why Adobe Acrobat 9 Standard (Full, no
update) costs:
- US $299 (216 EUR) when I buy it in the US Store
http://bit.ly/aXhtLv
- US $554 (401 EUR) when I buy it in a European Adobe Store
- http://bit.ly/dtOSd3
Sorry, I misspoke - not Nov 1.
Maybe Adobe has not formally announced anything, but according to Amazon, it is
a Dec 1 release date:
http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-65083161-Acrobat-X-Professional/dp/B0046DH8PC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8qid=1288308342sr=8-1
Given that Adobe is offering free shipping
Yeah, it's really quite amusing. I got an email about beta testing
FrameMaker X, and they said that X is pronounced ten.
Fei Min
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From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Mike Wickham
Sent: Thursday, October
I thought maybe Acrobat was going radical on us (like Malcolm X)!
Thank you,
Gillian Flato
Technical Writer (Software)
nanometrics
1550 Buckeye Dr.
Milpitas, CA. 95035
9408.545.6316
408.232.5911
4 gfl...@nanometrics.com
Well Done is better than Well Said - Benjamin Franklin
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On 28/10/2010 11:06 AM, Martinek, Carla wrote:
Never mind... spend 10 minutes looking, send the email, and *then*
find it.
Show Graphics - Esc Shift+v v s Hide Graphics - Esc Shift+v v h
-Original Message- From: Martinek, Carla Sent: Thursday,
October 28, 2010 10:04 AM To:
Hi group
I'm using Fm9.0p255, Windows XP SP3.
I've got Fm files which contain Chinese text (OpenType font: Arial Unicode
MS). Everything looks OK, but when I update my Fm book (Edit > Update Book)
and cross-references, the Chinese characters in cross-references become
question marks. I can fix
Yves,
>From a company we purchased, I inherited FrameMaker 7 files for several
languages.
I do not have FM7. I went from FM6 to FM9 (TCS2 actually, I am now at
FM9.0p255).
The European languages I inherited open fine in FM9. Their cross
references looked great.
But, the Chinese and
Hi Yves,
One thing you might try. Create a character format that specifies the
correct font, and add this to the cross-reference building blocks.
Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-659-8267
rick at frameexpert.com
*** Frame Automation blog at http://frameautomation.com
Hi group
Can someone please explain to me why Adobe Acrobat 9 Standard (Full, no
update) costs:
- US $299 (216 EUR) when I buy it in the US Store
http://bit.ly/aXhtLv
- US $554 (401 EUR) when I buy it in a European Adobe Store
- http://bit.ly/dtOSd3
I called Customer Support in
You're welcome, Richard.
I don't think I mentioned Fm7 in my original post, did I? And I don't know
who advised you to get Fm7 (and I don't want to know), but that piece of
advice just doesn't make any sense at all because:
- Fm7 does not support Unicode.
- I don't think you can buy Fm7
Hi Rick
Right on! I've created a dedicated character format which uses Arial
Unicode MS as font, and everything is fine now.
Thank you very much!
PS: Are you going to tekom tcworld next week? If you are, I'll buy you a
beer (or two).
Cheers
--
Yves Barbion
www.scripto.nu
On Thu, Oct 28,
Wow! That is awesome bafflegab.
*scratches head*
Nadine
--- On Thu, 10/28/10, Yves Barbion wrote:
> From: Yves Barbion
> Subject: [Bulk] [OT] Adobe's pricing policy
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Date: Thursday, October 28, 2010, 10:03 AM
> Hi group
>
> Can someone please explain
Hi,
I have elements like this one report
15 which are defined in the DTD as normal elements.
Now, I have been asked to convert them all to native FrameMaker xref
elements, (with the correct xref format if possible).
As there are hundreds if not thousands of these falsexref elements, I
need to
Clearly, Darryl should run for office. His talents are being wasted :)
-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Writer
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 9:15 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com; Yves
I'm paging through a very large, graphics-intense maintenance manual, checking
pagination, headers/footers, etc.
I'm having a brain cramp, and I thought there was a command that allowed you to
"turn off" graphics. This would allow you to page through the FM files quicker
in a doc such as this.
Never mind... spend 10 minutes looking, send the email, and *then* find it.
Show Graphics - Esc Shift+v v s
Hide Graphics - Esc Shift+v v h
-Original Message-
From: Martinek, Carla
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 10:04 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Temporarily hide
I've been slow to acknowledge some great ideas and suggestions. Thanks
everybody.
Currently grappling with the transition from FM6 on XP to FM9 on Win 7.
No doubt there will be more questions to follow... :)
Jo.
-Original Message-
From: Georg Eck [mailto:e...@squidds.de]
Sent: 21
Not quite - his answer is somewhat related to the question. ;)
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Lea Rush
Software and Documentation Specialist
Astoria-Pacific International
www.astoria-pacific.com
ph: 800-536-3111
fax:? 503-655-7367
lea at astoria-pacific.com
> -Original Message-
Hello Framers,
I am developing a script that will go through all of the message URL
Hypertext links in a document or book and validate them. It will actually
"try" each link to make sure they point to a valid URL. A hyperlinked log
file will be created for any invalid links, so you can easily get
Thanks everybody for their input such as:
* use a FrameMaker plugin called Node Wizard. This could work very
well if the target element wouldn't be an element of type
Cross-Reference which is "special" and can't easily be generated, at
least that's what I've seen from a quick test. I'd love to be
At 16:03 +0200 28/10/10, Yves Barbion wrote:
>Huh?
Darryl is maybe a computer program of some sort?
I had a similar exchange with PayPal recently. That time, after wending my way
through an impenetrable forest of web options, I talked to a real, [apparently]
human female, but for all the
FrameMaker 9 is 999 $ (717 ?) in the US and 1600 $ (1148 ?) in France...
> From: lea at astoria-pacific.com
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: RE: [Bulk] [OT] Adobe's pricing policy
> Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2010 08:32:50 -0700
>
> Not quite - his answer is somewhat related to the
Does Belgium have a VAT?
But why bother with 9? X is shipping...
Art Campbell
? ? ? ? ? ? ? art.campbell at gmail.com
? "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52
Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? No
View > Options > Graphics
Art Campbell
? ? ? ? ? ? ? art.campbell at gmail.com
? "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52
Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? No disclaimers apply.
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
Could it be that European countries impose huge taxes on Adobe and they're
passing along those taxes to the customer?
Thank you,
?
Gillian Flato
Technical Writer (Software)
nanometrics
1550 Buckeye Dr.
Milpitas, CA. 95035
9408.545.6316
?? 408.232.5911
4 gflato at nanometrics.com
"Well Done is
Morgan Saarikoski wrote:
> I have a Frame document that I am converting to RoboHelp; I was doing some
> reading about how to perform this task and came across a suggestion that
> instead of performing a full conversion, that it is better to link a Frame
> document to RoboHelp - great idea! This
Lea Rush quipped: Not quite - his answer is somewhat related to the
question. ;)
But Daryl is quite deft at sticking to the talking points and he
even tried skirting the question with a change-the-subject quick-step.
He's already got the "We understand your concern blah-blah-blah" down
pat.
I read one of Adobe's press releases that said "Acrobat X (pronounced 10)".
In my opinion, if you have to explain how to pronounce a product name, it
isn't a good choice for a name. Let's just hope the next version isn't XI.
Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-659-8267
rick at frameexpert.com
http://www.adobe.com/
Art Campbell
? ? ? ? ? ? ? art.campbell at gmail.com
? "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52
Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? No disclaimers apply.
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
Point taken -- but a skilled political debating coach could fix up that small
flaw.
-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Lea Rush
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 10:33 AM
To: framers at
I saw that too: Acrobat X.
Sounds either mysterious or halfway to pornographic - which I doubt was their
intent.
Sometimes you shoot yourself in the foot trying to be cute.
Alison
Alison Craig, Technical Writer
Ultrasonix Medical Corporation
Tel: (604) 279-8550, ext 127
E-mail: alison.craig
> > But why bother with 9? X is shipping...
> Say what? When? And are they really going to call it X instead of 10?
> Mike Wickham
I got my e-mail from Adobe about this sometime last week as I recall. I believe
the shipping date is Nov 1, but forget where I saw that.
And, I have no idea why
If Acrobat X is about to ship, can FrameMaker X be far behind?
Maybe I should start trying to convince my company that once FM X ships
we will have fallen out of the cheap (relatively) upgrade window from FM
7.0.
Clint
Clint Owen | Sr. Technical Writer | Crane Aerospace & Electronics | +1
> On 29/10/2010, at 8:08 AM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net) wrote:
> > My only [usual] gripe is with the upgrade pricing (like all Adobe
> > upgrades!). It is $199 regardless of whether you have Acrobat 9 Pro
> > *or* Acrobat 9 Pro Extended to go to Acrobat X Pro (there is only
Most of our company is still using Windows XP and FrameMaker 7.
The IT group has set up a Windows 7 PC for testing, including FM 7.0,
with patch 579.
I have been using this setup through a remote desktop connection for
some of my unstructured FM documents. All seems well except for
seemingly
Acrobat X is not shipping yet nor has Adobe committed to a November 1 ship date.
It is pronounced "Acrobat Ten" - as usual, it's a marketing "thing" ...
- Dov
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at
> lists.frameusers.com]
Acrobat X was announced, but is certainly not yet shipping.
- Dov
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at
> lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of
> Art Campbell
> Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 7:36 AM
> To: Yves Barbion
>
Can you buy it from a US store?
Your chat log sounds like a support bot. Either that or Daryll has
been watching too many Ed Wood movies.
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 10:03 AM, Yves Barbion
wrote:
> Hi group
>
> Can someone please explain to me why Adobe Acrobat 9 Standard (Full, no
> update)
How about the software application formerly known as Adobe Framemaker? (Ya'
know, like the "artist formerly known as Prince" for all you old-timers out
there - dating myself I know!!)
TVB
Tammy Van Boening
Owner/Principal
Spectrum Writing, LLC
www.spectrumwritingllc.com
info at
And if someone says, "I'm an Acrobat X user," are they bragging or
disgruntled? :)
Mike Wickham
Well, darn. I misread the original message and thought you were talking
about FrameMaker 10 coming out. I knew about Acrobat "X." Good luck getting
people to pronounce it as Acrobat 10. I still hear people say OSX instead of
OS 10. What a stupid naming idea. You just know some bug will be found
Mike Wickham wrote:
> And if someone says, "I'm an Acrobat X user," are they bragging or
> disgruntled? :)
Well, it does offer Adobe a great new marketing opportunity: sponsoring the
Acrobat X Games.
(Sorry, but Friday's getting close!)
Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
Yves Barbion wrote:
> Hi group
>
> Can someone please explain to me why Adobe Acrobat 9 Standard (Full, no
> update) costs:
>
> - US $299 (216 EUR) when I buy it in the US Store
> http://bit.ly/aXhtLv
> - US $554 (401 EUR) when I buy it in a European Adobe Store
> -
Sorry, I misspoke - not Nov 1.
Maybe Adobe has not formally announced anything, but according to Amazon, it is
a Dec 1 release date:
http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-65083161-Acrobat-X-Professional/dp/B0046DH8PC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8=1288308342=8-1
Given that Adobe is offering "free shipping" from
Yeah, it's really quite amusing. I got an email about beta testing
FrameMaker X, and they said that "X" is pronounced "ten".
Fei Min
-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Mike Wickham
Sent: Thursday,
I thought maybe Acrobat was going radical on us (like Malcolm X)!
Thank you,
?
Gillian Flato
Technical Writer (Software)
nanometrics
1550 Buckeye Dr.
Milpitas, CA. 95035
9408.545.6316
?? 408.232.5911
4 gflato at nanometrics.com
"Well Done is better than Well Said" - Benjamin Franklin
On 28/10/2010 11:06 AM, Martinek, Carla wrote:
> Never mind... spend 10 minutes looking, send the email, and *then*
> find it.
>
> Show Graphics - Esc Shift+v v s Hide Graphics - Esc Shift+v v h
>
>
>
> -Original Message- From: Martinek, Carla Sent: Thursday,
> October 28, 2010 10:04 AM
> "No I haven't asked Adobe, who there could possibly tell me?"
Darryl, maybe?
tims :)
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From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Alan T Litchfield
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 2:41 PM
To: Yves Barbion
I have noticed something similar with my FM 7 and Windows 7 setup. Often, I
will get a "Not Responding" notification in the FM title bar. It looks like
FM is locked, but after awhile, control does eventually return to FM.
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 2:47 PM, Owen, Clint
wrote:
> Most of our company
How quaint. Roman Numerals for a software release. Will the
documentation be created using Old English Text? I'm very curious why
Marketing chose to do that.
Debbie Layton
Technical Writer
Customer Publications
503.582.6822
debbie.layton at xerox.com
-Original Message-
From:
As near as I can tell from their website, Adobe have abandoned the 3-D
functionality altogether in version 10. So a big chunk of "extended" is gone
from Acrobat X Pro anyway. Maybe they should pay us to make the switch from
Acrobat 9 Pro Extended to Acrobat X Pro! Oh well.
John
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