FM10 File Format

2012-06-06 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
Did the file format change between FM9 and 10? Meaning, if you pass docs from 10 to 9, do you have to save it down to 9? Regards, Shmuel Wolfson Technical Writer 052-763-7133 On 05-Jun-12 2:09 AM, Grant Hogarth wrote: > Just got this from a friend at Adobe (I'm trying to get some clients > to

FM10 File Format

2012-06-06 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Shmuel, Yes, you do have to save FM 10 files down to 9 in order to open them with 9. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-283-5045 rick at frameexpert.com -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Sh

FM10 crashes saving book as HTML, inserts rogue word - SOLVED

2012-06-06 Thread John Sgammato
It's all about efficient use of resources after you push the button. I suppose a fast 32-bit machine would solve it as well, but he did say that the 64-bit architecture is better at managing the resources. I have a 64-bit machine at work, so that's the machine I will use. I'll post here if the

FM10 crashes saving book as HTML, inserts rogue word - SOLVED

2012-06-06 Thread Jeff Coatsworth
You didn't say how much RAM was on the Win7-64 machine - that probably had more to do with it. -Original Message- From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of John Sgammato Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 8:50 AM To: Robert Lauri

Deal for upgrading from FM7.x to FM10 ends June 15

2012-06-06 Thread Lea Rush
+SGML in the garage this weekend, so I had to ask! ) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20120606/c7b50f26/attachment.html>

Deal for upgrading from FM7.x to FM10 ends June 15

2012-06-06 Thread Stuart Rogers
On 06/06/2012 12:02 PM, Lea Rush wrote: > Not with a link that has a country code originating in Libya. I suggest > that folks ignore the spammer. > > Lea > > > *Promo landing page: *http://adobe.ly/ItpxLt > Hi Lea, You've jumped to a wrong conclusion -- the link is legitimate and doesn't origi

Deal for upgrading from FM7.x to FM10 ends June 15

2012-06-06 Thread Lea Rush
Hi Stuart, I found that page, but I'm still a bit suspicious because the unshortened link doesn't say anything about a screamin' sale going on for the next week. If I select "Buy", the version choices are FM8 and FM9 only. How does a person get this special upgrade price? Lea __

Deal for upgrading from FM7.x to FM10 ends June 15

2012-06-06 Thread Stuart Rogers
On 06/06/2012 1:14 PM, Lea Rush wrote: > Hi Stuart, > > I found that page, but I'm still a bit suspicious because the > unshortened link doesn't say anything about a screamin' sale going on > for the next week. If I select "Buy", the version choices are FM8 and > FM9 only. How does a person get thi

Deal for upgrading from FM7.x to FM10 ends June 15

2012-06-06 Thread Combs, Richard
Stuart Rogers wrote: > You've jumped to a wrong conclusion -- the link is legitimate and > doesn't originate in Libya. It's a shortened URL that points to > http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/fm-upgrade.html > > It looks like Adobe has its own link-shortening utility so that "adobe" > app

Deal for upgrading from FM7.x to FM10 ends June 15

2012-06-06 Thread Lea Rush
Fair enough. Thanks for pointing that out, Stuart. I withdraw the comment about your being a spammer. Lea _ Lea Rush Software and Documentation Specialist Astoria-Pacific International www.astoria-pacific.com ph: 800-536-3111 fax: 503-655-7367 lea at astor

Deal for upgrading from FM7.x to FM10 ends June 15

2012-06-06 Thread Lea Rush
By the way, this also proves Stuart right and is more explicit to boot (for those of us still pre-coffee). http://blogs.adobe.com/techcomm/2012/04/framemaker7xpromotion.html _ Lea Rush Software and Documentation Specialist Astoria-Pacific International www.as

What's your top feature request for FrameMaker 11?

2012-06-06 Thread Alison Craig
will the former unless Adobe can present a value proposition that no longer relies on vendor lock in and PDF usage. Sincerely, Joseph Lorenzini -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20120606/57

Deal for upgrading from FM7.x to FM10 ends June 15

2012-06-06 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
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FM10 crashes saving book as HTML, inserts rogue word - SOLVED

2012-06-06 Thread John Sgammato
I checked on that, and asked about it. They both have 4MB RAM, but the 32-bit machine doesn't utilize it as efficiently. -Original Message- From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Coatsworth Sent: Wednesday, June 06,

Importing Word Object into FrameMaker doc

2012-06-06 Thread David Artman
I am curious as to why you'd maintain the content in Word then import to Frame. Why not just convert the Word to Frame, maintain that as the source file, and avoid this whole issue? Assuming that It Must Be This Way... I got nothing, sorry. I have yet to work in a production environment that relie

FYI: Deal for upgrading from FM7.x to FM10 ends June 15

2012-06-06 Thread Robert Lauriston
The offer is "Adobe FrameMaker 7.X customers can receive a savings of 30% on the FULL version of FrameMaker 10 software purchased through Adobe Customer Service, or a participating reseller worldwide." Adobe charges $999, 30% off that is $699. Amazon charges $634. Personally I'd stick with 7 unle

Deal for upgrading from FM7.x to FM10 ends June 15

2012-06-06 Thread Robert Lauriston
It resolves to http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/fm-upgrade.html. It's a legit offer, just not the best one out there. adobe.ly appears to be an Adobe URL shortener a la bit.ly. On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 9:02 AM, Lea Rush wrote: > Not with a link that has a country code originating in Libya.

FM10 File Format

2012-06-06 Thread Craig Ede
n > Technical Writer > 052-763-7133 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20120606/04cadf58/attachment.html>

Deal for upgrading from FM7.x to FM10 ends June 15

2012-06-06 Thread Robert Lauriston
"Adobe FrameMaker 7.X customers can receive a savings of 30% on the FULL version of FrameMaker 10 software purchased through Adobe Customer Service, or a participating reseller worldwide." On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 10:14 AM, Lea Rush wrote: > I found that page, but I'm still a bit suspicious because

Conditional Paragraph Tags?

2012-06-06 Thread John Newman
I need to produce two versions of the exact same textual content (a software manual), except one edition needs have some parenthetical text [e.g., "(A) Lorem ipsum ..."] appended to the beginning of each paragraph, heading, figure caption, and table title. For example, one version needs the hea

Deal for upgrading from FM7.x to FM10 ends June 15

2012-06-06 Thread Craig Ede
So what is the final pricing on it then (in case somebody actually talks to Customer Service). BTW:In my opinion 10 is quite good; excellent on a 64 bit OS. Some nice tools for getting rid of overrides, etc. The interface is quite an adjustment, but bear with it. You get used to it by configur

finding character format overrides & converting to paragraph tags

2012-06-06 Thread Robert Lauriston
I'm cleaning up a >1000-page book. Anybody have a trick for finding character format overrides, particularly those where the writer used Ctrl+i or Ctrl+b instead of applying a character tag? Using Find/Replace / Character Format / Shift+F8 / Weight=Bold or Angle=Italic isn't helpful since it finds

What's your top feature request for FrameMaker 11?

2012-06-06 Thread Craig Ede
competitive disadvantages framemaker has with other products out there. .. Sincerely, Joseph Lorenzini -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20120606/33a3be7b/attachment.html>

Deal for upgrading from FM7.x to FM10 ends June 15

2012-06-06 Thread Grant Hogarth
I can assure you that I'm not an intentional spammer (nor do I work for Adobe). My apologies for using a URL compressor that made it look that way. Actually, my contact at Adobe did, and I didn't think anything of it. I just wanted to let folks know that a) there was a deal, and b) It was going aw

Scroll Wheel Suddenly Stops Working In FM7

2012-06-06 Thread Charles Brady
s in all of the other programs. I reinstalled Freewheel, but no joy. I'm using Windows XP Pro, SP3. Help! Chuck -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20120606/fe38e8c8/attachment.html>

Conditional Paragraph Tags?

2012-06-06 Thread Combs, Richard
John Newman wrote: > Since the appended version is a new requirement, I created one manually > to meet an immediate deadline by making a copy of the whole FM book and > adding the parenthetical element using Autonumber Formatting to the > appropriate paragraph tags. > > I don't want to maintain

Deal for upgrading from FM7.x to FM10 ends June 15

2012-06-06 Thread Robert Lauriston
30% off $999 is not much of a deal when the lowball street price is $634. http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=%22framemaker+10%22&hl=en&safe=off&prmd=imvns&biw=1680&bih=969&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=14921154069017648608&sa=X&ei=8QHQT8CYKeSY2wW5mIXaDA&ved=0CHgQ8wIwAA On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 2

Conditional Paragraph Tags?

2012-06-06 Thread Robert Lauriston
I've done that two different ways. You can create a second document with text insets to pull in all the content from the first document. I have a project like that with a script that generates a PDF from the first document and a Word document from the second. You can also create two otherwise emp

FM10 File Format

2012-06-06 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
Did the file format change between FM9 and 10? Meaning, if you pass docs from 10 to 9, do you have to save it down to 9? Regards, Shmuel Wolfson Technical Writer 052-763-7133 On 05-Jun-12 2:09 AM, Grant Hogarth wrote: Just got this from a friend at Adobe (I'm trying to get some clients to upg

RE: FM10 File Format

2012-06-06 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Shmuel, Yes, you do have to save FM 10 files down to 9 in order to open them with 9. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-283-5045 r...@frameexpert.com -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Shmuel W

RE: FM10 crashes saving book as HTML, inserts rogue word - SOLVED

2012-06-06 Thread John Sgammato
It's all about efficient use of resources after you push the button. I suppose a fast 32-bit machine would solve it as well, but he did say that the 64-bit architecture is better at managing the resources. I have a 64-bit machine at work, so that's the machine I will use. I'll post here if the

RE: FM10 crashes saving book as HTML, inserts rogue word - SOLVED

2012-06-06 Thread Jeff Coatsworth
You didn't say how much RAM was on the Win7-64 machine - that probably had more to do with it. -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of John Sgammato Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 8:50 AM To: Robert Lauristo

RE: Deal for upgrading from FM7.x to FM10 ends June 15

2012-06-06 Thread Lea Rush
Not with a link that has a country code originating in Libya. I suggest that folks ignore the spammer. Lea _ Lea Rush Software and Documentation Specialist Astoria-Pacific International www.astoria-pacific.com ph: 800-536-3111 fax: 503

Re: Deal for upgrading from FM7.x to FM10 ends June 15

2012-06-06 Thread Stuart Rogers
On 06/06/2012 12:02 PM, Lea Rush wrote: Not with a link that has a country code originating in Libya. I suggest that folks ignore the spammer. Lea *Promo landing page: *http://adobe.ly/ItpxLt Hi Lea, You've jumped to a wrong conclusion -- the link is legitimate and doesn't originate in

RE: Deal for upgrading from FM7.x to FM10 ends June 15

2012-06-06 Thread Lea Rush
Hi Stuart, I found that page, but I'm still a bit suspicious because the unshortened link doesn't say anything about a screamin' sale going on for the next week. If I select "Buy", the version choices are FM8 and FM9 only. How does a person get this special upgrade price? Lea __

Re: Deal for upgrading from FM7.x to FM10 ends June 15

2012-06-06 Thread Stuart Rogers
On 06/06/2012 1:14 PM, Lea Rush wrote: Hi Stuart, I found that page, but I'm still a bit suspicious because the unshortened link doesn't say anything about a screamin' sale going on for the next week. If I select "Buy", the version choices are FM8 and FM9 only. How does a person get this special

RE: Deal for upgrading from FM7.x to FM10 ends June 15

2012-06-06 Thread Combs, Richard
Stuart Rogers wrote: > You've jumped to a wrong conclusion -- the link is legitimate and > doesn't originate in Libya. It's a shortened URL that points to > http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/fm-upgrade.html > > It looks like Adobe has its own link-shortening utility so that "adobe" > ap

RE: Deal for upgrading from FM7.x to FM10 ends June 15

2012-06-06 Thread Lea Rush
Fair enough. Thanks for pointing that out, Stuart. I withdraw the comment about your being a spammer. Lea _ Lea Rush Software and Documentation Specialist Astoria-Pacific International www.astoria-pacific.com ph: 800-536-3111 fax: 503-655-7367 l...@astoria

RE: Deal for upgrading from FM7.x to FM10 ends June 15

2012-06-06 Thread Lea Rush
By the way, this also proves Stuart right and is more explicit to boot (for those of us still pre-coffee). http://blogs.adobe.com/techcomm/2012/04/framemaker7xpromotion.html _ Lea Rush Software and Documentation Specialist Astoria-Pacific International www.as

RE: What's your top feature request for FrameMaker 11?

2012-06-06 Thread Alison Craig
I've been away for a couple of days so I'm late to this discussion. As a strictly Frame to PDF user (with heavy use of conditional text), I have no XML or Structured Frame experience, but I can see huge value in what Joseph is proposing. There is no way I can make an ROI case for moving to Stru

RE: Deal for upgrading from FM7.x to FM10 ends June 15

2012-06-06 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Hmmm ... Lea, you may be right, but I also saw this (see below) at http://blogs.adobe.com/techcomm/2012/04/part-5-%C2%BD-reasons-to-upgrade-from-fm-7-x-to-fm-10-summary-thus-far.html at the bottom of the page. The above is a link to an Adobe site ... so is safe, I hope! Z Limited Period Specia

RE: FM10 crashes saving book as HTML, inserts rogue word - SOLVED

2012-06-06 Thread John Sgammato
I checked on that, and asked about it. They both have 4MB RAM, but the 32-bit machine doesn't utilize it as efficiently. -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Coatsworth Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 201

RE: Importing Word Object into FrameMaker doc

2012-06-06 Thread David Artman
I am curious as to why you'd maintain the content in Word then import to Frame. Why not just convert the Word to Frame, maintain that as the source file, and avoid this whole issue? Assuming that It Must Be This Way... I got nothing, sorry. I have yet to work in a production environment that relie

Re: FYI: Deal for upgrading from FM7.x to FM10 ends June 15

2012-06-06 Thread Robert Lauriston
The offer is "Adobe FrameMaker 7.X customers can receive a savings of 30% on the FULL version of FrameMaker 10 software purchased through Adobe Customer Service, or a participating reseller worldwide." Adobe charges $999, 30% off that is $699. Amazon charges $634. Personally I'd stick with 7 unle

Re: Deal for upgrading from FM7.x to FM10 ends June 15

2012-06-06 Thread Robert Lauriston
It resolves to http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/fm-upgrade.html. It's a legit offer, just not the best one out there. adobe.ly appears to be an Adobe URL shortener a la bit.ly. On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 9:02 AM, Lea Rush wrote: > Not with a link that has a country code originating in Libya.

RE: FM10 File Format

2012-06-06 Thread Craig Ede
Yes, you have to save as FM9 or FM9 won't open it. There is a menu item to do this, but that is not very convenient with multi-file books. You can use Extendscript to affect the file save function though, and might be able to do the books that way. Craig > Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 14:15:04 +0300

Re: Deal for upgrading from FM7.x to FM10 ends June 15

2012-06-06 Thread Robert Lauriston
"Adobe FrameMaker 7.X customers can receive a savings of 30% on the FULL version of FrameMaker 10 software purchased through Adobe Customer Service, or a participating reseller worldwide." On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 10:14 AM, Lea Rush wrote: > I found that page, but I'm still a bit suspicious because

Conditional Paragraph Tags?

2012-06-06 Thread John Newman
I need to produce two versions of the exact same textual content (a software manual), except one edition needs have some parenthetical text [e.g., "(A) Lorem ipsum ..."] appended to the beginning of each paragraph, heading, figure caption, and table title. For example, one version needs the he

RE: Deal for upgrading from FM7.x to FM10 ends June 15

2012-06-06 Thread Craig Ede
So what is the final pricing on it then (in case somebody actually talks to Customer Service). BTW:In my opinion 10 is quite good; excellent on a 64 bit OS. Some nice tools for getting rid of overrides, etc. The interface is quite an adjustment, but bear with it. You get used to it by configur

finding character format overrides & converting to paragraph tags

2012-06-06 Thread Robert Lauriston
I'm cleaning up a >1000-page book. Anybody have a trick for finding character format overrides, particularly those where the writer used Ctrl+i or Ctrl+b instead of applying a character tag? Using Find/Replace / Character Format / Shift+F8 / Weight=Bold or Angle=Italic isn't helpful since it finds

RE: What's your top feature request for FrameMaker 11?

2012-06-06 Thread Craig Ede
I like the idea of FM going to a straight XML authoring environment. This automatic conversion of unstructured FM documents to XML sounds great! But how would it be done? By encasing paragraphs in their paragraph tags? It's a bit harder than that to figure out the structure of a document; you

Re: Deal for upgrading from FM7.x to FM10 ends June 15

2012-06-06 Thread Grant Hogarth
I can assure you that I'm not an intentional spammer (nor do I work for Adobe). My apologies for using a URL compressor that made it look that way. Actually, my contact at Adobe did, and I didn't think anything of it. I just wanted to let folks know that a) there was a deal, and b) It was going aw

Scroll Wheel Suddenly Stops Working In FM7

2012-06-06 Thread Charles Brady
New to the list (although I did belong over 10 years ago, before I retired). I'm still using FM7, as my requirements are pretty small -- doing a small newsletter and other personal use, but I do use it every day. Two days ago the scroll wheel suddenly stopped working in FM, but still works in a

RE: Conditional Paragraph Tags?

2012-06-06 Thread Combs, Richard
John Newman wrote: > Since the appended version is a new requirement, I created one manually > to meet an immediate deadline by making a copy of the whole FM book and > adding the parenthetical element using Autonumber Formatting to the > appropriate paragraph tags. > > I don't want to maintain