Some of us have been using FrameMaker since it was owned by Frame. For many
years, it seemed as if Adobe was trying to abandon FraneMaker. That has changed
and it is still a good product. RoboHelp, however, is much more troublesome. I
would not recommend it. It's buggy, and cumbersome. That said
Michael, what are you using to publish your DITA content? What output is it
missing?
Nadine
On Wednesday, October 13, 2021, 04:43:39 p.m. EDT, Norton, Michael
wrote:
Some of us have been using FrameMaker since it was owned by Frame. For many
years, it seemed as if Adobe was trying to
I don't know why everyone likes bashing FrameMaker.
Is there anything else that:
• Is suitable for long books.
• Gives you PDF output as is appears while you are working (WYSIWYG).
• Can be converted to online help, (even if it requires buying an extra
program).
FM happens to have online help
To continue my previous email, I agree that if PDF is not an output you
supply to the customers, than there are lots of good options out there
that may be cheaper than FM and have other benefits. But there are
plenty of products out there that still come with a PDF, or have one
avail
ber 14, 2021 2:00 AM
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Subject: Re: [Framers] Why so many of us feel the way we do about Adobe
I don't know why everyone likes bashing FrameMaker.
Is there anything else that:
• Is suitable for long books.
• Gives you PDF output as is appears while you are working (WYSIWYG).
You can't buy FrameMaker any more. Subscription only. $360 a year is
quite cheap compared with other tools. I'm paying a little over $3,000
a year for Paligo. Flare is $2,000.
PDF's still a customer requirement for many products, but the other
single-sourcing tools I've used all produce professio
I think the general feeling of those who are upset at Adobe, is that
Adobe seems to feel:
"We are the best. Nothing else comes close. So we can charge whatever we
want and ignore your request for bug fixes."
Does that about sum it up?
I think when Adobe charged less for upgrades people had mor
The current $360 annual subscription price is lower than the old
annual maintenance charge, which was 50% of the cost for a new
license.
On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 12:27 AM Shmuel Wolfson wrote:
>
> ... I think when Adobe charged less for upgrades people had more tolerance
> for Adobe not fixing bug
authorisation issue is caused by Adobe?
Alison
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To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
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At one point it was $400 to upgrade up to two versions back. That was
reasonable. Every few years I would ask my employer to upgrade. Then the
price shot up to $400 for one version back, $600 for two versions back,
and full price after that. That's when I just gave up and said I'll
stick with t
I suspect the main reason Adobe did not discontinue FrameMaker 20
years ago and has continued to sell it is the significant revenue
streams from large customers such as Boeing who built complex
toolchains using structured FrameMaker and the Framemaker development
kit.
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Thanks! I couldn't agree with you more! :thumbsup
And years ago, I think it was even less than $400 to upgrade - heck the cost of
a license was around that much (although this may be wishful recollection on my
part! 😊)
Z
Shmuel Wolfson said:
> At one point it was $400 to upgrade up to two vers
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I don't know why everyone like
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This is an old thread but here is a
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Subject: Re: [Framers] Why so many of us feel the way we do about Adobe
Hi Betrand,
Sorry to hear this.
However:
o From your other thread I understand that you used and old version.
Newer versions are def
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