Re: Keyboard shortcuts in FM8 (was Re: 8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book to PDF issue)

2007-12-14 Thread Shlomo Perets
Hi Peter, Thanks for your detailed and interesting reply! My comment was not focused on a specific FM8 bug, but on the apparent state of affairs where a product is released "as is" so as not to miss a deadline, but losing out on other fronts in major ways. Some other FM8 bugs/issues are listed

Keyboard shortcuts in FM8 (was Re: 8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book to PDF issue)

2007-12-14 Thread Shlomo Perets
Hi Peter, Thanks for your detailed and interesting reply! My comment was not focused on a specific FM8 bug, but on the apparent state of affairs where a product is released "as is" so as not to miss a deadline, but losing out on other fronts in major ways. Some other FM8 bugs/issues are listed

Keyboard shortcuts in FM8 (was Re: 8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book to PDF issue)

2007-12-12 Thread Shlomo Perets
Will White wrote: > How does such a monstrous bug like a nonfunctionng F0-9 sequences get > past QA? Don't any of the developers USE the software? > Stupid question. I've worked in a number of software houses and the > answer is, sadly, "They don't". > In the meantime, I won't even think of

Keyboard shortcuts in FM8 (was Re: 8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book to PDF issue)

2007-12-12 Thread Peter Gold
On Dec 12, 2007 2:27 PM, Shlomo Perets wrote: > Adherence to time tables is certainly important, but in this case, it seems > to me that FrameMaker 8.0 -- at least at this stage -- will be associated > more with the ongoing problems and user frustration, rather than with the > release according to

Re: Keyboard shortcuts in FM8 (was Re: 8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book to PDF issue)

2007-12-12 Thread Peter Gold
On Dec 12, 2007 2:27 PM, Shlomo Perets <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Adherence to time tables is certainly important, but in this case, it seems > to me that FrameMaker 8.0 -- at least at this stage -- will be associated > more with the ongoing problems and user frustration, rather than with the > r

Re: Keyboard shortcuts in FM8 (was Re: 8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book to PDF issue)

2007-12-12 Thread Shlomo Perets
Will White wrote: > How does such a monstrous bug like a nonfunctionng F0-9 sequences get > past QA? Don't any of the developers USE the software? > Stupid question. I've worked in a number of software houses and the > answer is, sadly, "They don't". > In the meantime, I won't even think of

Keyboard shortcuts in FM8 (was Re: 8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book to PDF issue)

2007-12-02 Thread Michael Müller-Hillebrand
Well, to make F8 and F9 work you have to keep the Character Designer resp. Paragraph Designer closed -- that is what you would recommend to authors, don't you? With FM8.0p266 I found Ctrl+1 and Ctrl+2 to be working as expected, but to be able to use Ctrl+3 (Change Element) you need to have t

Re: Keyboard shortcuts in FM8 (was Re: 8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book to PDF issue)

2007-12-02 Thread Michael Müller-Hillebrand
Well, to make F8 and F9 work you have to keep the Character Designer resp. Paragraph Designer closed -- that is what you would recommend to authors, don't you? With FM8.0p266 I found Ctrl+1 and Ctrl+2 to be working as expected, but to be able to use Ctrl+3 (Change Element) you need to have t

Keyboard shortcuts in FM8 (was Re: 8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book to PDF issue)

2007-12-02 Thread Alan Houser
The FrameMaker 8 keyboard shortcut issue is particularly frustrating. It's not just F9; it's all of the ctrl/F[0-9] shortcuts (element operations, conditional text, variables, character and paragraph formats). Using these shortcuts can dramatically improve a writer's productivity using FrameMak

Re: Keyboard shortcuts in FM8 (was Re: 8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book to PDF issue)

2007-12-02 Thread Whites
Hello All - How does such a monstrous bug like a nonfunctionng F0-9 sequences get past QA? Don't any of the developers USE the software? Stupid question. I've worked in a number of software houses and the answer is, sadly, "They don't". In the meantime, I won't even think of 'upgrading' to FM

Keyboard shortcuts in FM8 (was Re: 8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book to PDF issue)

2007-12-02 Thread Whites
Hello All - How does such a monstrous bug like a nonfunctionng F0-9 sequences get past QA? Don't any of the developers USE the software? Stupid question. I've worked in a number of software houses and the answer is, sadly, "They don't". In the meantime, I won't even think of 'upgrading' to FM

Keyboard shortcuts in FM8 (was Re: 8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book to PDF issue)

2007-12-02 Thread Alan Houser
The FrameMaker 8 keyboard shortcut issue is particularly frustrating. It's not just F9; it's all of the ctrl/F[0-9] shortcuts (element operations, conditional text, variables, character and paragraph formats). Using these shortcuts can dramatically improve a writer's productivity using FrameMak

RE: 8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book to PDF issue

2007-12-01 Thread Diane Gaskill
fixes FM Book to PDF issue The patch was free? Greg Thompson -- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: 8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book to PDF issue > Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 02

8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book to PDF issue

2007-12-01 Thread Diane Gaskill
: 8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book to PDF issue The patch was free? Greg Thompson -- > From: dgcaller at earthlink.net > To: rllarsonmaynard at ucdavis.edu > Subject: RE: 8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book to

8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book to PDF issue

2007-12-01 Thread Fred Ridder
Diane Gaskill wrote: > To get the patch, I clicked Help > > Updater in FM8 and it did the whole thing for me. During the update, it > required that I close FM but that is all I had to do. The online updater appears to be the only way to get the update. Strangely enough, there is no mention of Fr

RE: 8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book to PDF issue

2007-12-01 Thread Fred Ridder
Diane Gaskill wrote: > To get the patch, I clicked Help > > Updater in FM8 and it did the whole thing for me. During the update, it > required that I close FM but that is all I had to do. The online updater appears to be the only way to get the update. Strangely enough, there is no mention of

RE: 8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book to PDF issue

2007-12-01 Thread Diane Gaskill
Message- From: Randall Larson-Maynard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 7:25 AM To: 'Diane Gaskill' Subject: RE: 8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book to PDF issue Diane Where is the patch? I am unable to find it on the Adobe site. Thanks. -- Randall Larson-May

8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book to PDF issue

2007-12-01 Thread Diane Gaskill
Message- From: Randall Larson-Maynard [mailto:rllarsonmayn...@ucdavis.edu] Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 7:25 AM To: 'Diane Gaskill' Subject: RE: 8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book to PDF issue Diane Where is the patch? I am unable to find it on the Adobe site. Thanks. -- Randall Lar

8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book to PDF issue

2007-11-29 Thread Ray Saffin
y View, Everard Close, St Albans, AL1 2PS United Kingdom rsaffin at serena.com -Original Message- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 03:33:05 -0800 From: "Diane Gaskill" Subject: 8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book to PDF issue To: Cc: "Gutierrez, Dorianne" , vallipow a

8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book to PDF issue

2007-11-29 Thread Ray Saffin
y View, Everard Close, St Albans, AL1 2PS United Kingdom [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 03:33:05 -0800 From: "Diane Gaskill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: 8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book to PDF issue To: Cc: "Gutierrez, Dorianne&

8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book to PDF issue

2007-11-28 Thread Flato, Gillian
Gaskill Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 3:33 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Cc: Gutierrez, Dorianne; vallipow at aol.com Subject: 8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book to PDF issue The PDF bug happens if you have xrefs in your document, and to work around it you can do just what Valerie said. It

RE: 8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book to PDF issue

2007-11-28 Thread Flato, Gillian
, 2007 3:33 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Cc: Gutierrez, Dorianne; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book to PDF issue The PDF bug happens if you have xrefs in your document, and to work around it you can do just what Valerie said. It solves the problem. But there is a better way

8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book to PDF issue

2007-11-28 Thread Diane Gaskill
The PDF bug happens if you have xrefs in your document, and to work around it you can do just what Valerie said. It solves the problem. But there is a better way. Install the 8.0.1 patch that Adobe released last week. It fixes a long list of bugs, including that one. Diane = -Orig

8.0.1 patch fixes FM Book to PDF issue

2007-11-28 Thread Diane Gaskill
The PDF bug happens if you have xrefs in your document, and to work around it you can do just what Valerie said. It solves the problem. But there is a better way. Install the 8.0.1 patch that Adobe released last week. It fixes a long list of bugs, including that one. Diane = -Orig