Re: ARE: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word

2010-06-15 Thread Avraham Makeler
Unfortunately, Word does not make it as easy to link/reference the graphic as other programs do. It was always dead easy for me. Just get up the Insert Picture browser, select the pic you want to insert, and then select the Insert mode. That was from Word 2003. What's happened since 2003? avi

ARE: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word

2010-06-15 Thread Avraham Makeler
>> Unfortunately, Word does not make it as easy to link/reference the graphic as other programs do. It was always dead easy for me. Just get up the Insert Picture browser, select the pic you want to insert, and then select the Insert mode. That was from Word 2003. What's happened since 2003?

RE: ARE: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word

2010-06-08 Thread Tim J. Slager
05, 2010 12:07 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: ARE: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word I rather find the apology that Word can be made to function reliably ONLY IF one reprograms it to be begging the question. It is usually thought that one buys software that functions without

Re: ARE: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word

2010-06-08 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
.) tims -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of qui...@airmail.net Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 12:07 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: ARE: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word I rather find

RE: ARE: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word

2010-06-08 Thread Rick Quatro
12:07 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: ARE: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word I rather find the apology that Word can be made to function reliably ONLY IF one reprograms it to be begging the question. It is usually thought that one buys software that functions without the user

RE: ARE: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word

2010-06-08 Thread David Creamer
I was saying that Word can function reliably with large documents on a regular basis, provided one uses styles and templates, as recommended. (Just expect some exasperation with numbered lists.) Another thing that will stabilize Word documents is to link to graphics rather than embed or

ARE: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word

2010-06-08 Thread Tim J. Slager
, June 05, 2010 12:07 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: ARE: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word I rather find the apology that Word can be made to function reliably ONLY IF one reprograms it to be begging the question. It is usually thought that one buys software that functions

ARE: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word

2010-06-08 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
ne 05, 2010 12:07 AM > To: framers at lists.frameusers.com > Subject: Re: ARE: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word > > I rather find the apology that Word can be made to function reliably > ONLY IF one reprograms it to be begging the question. It is usually > thought that one buys software

ARE: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word

2010-06-08 Thread Rick Quatro
: Saturday, June 05, 2010 12:07 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: ARE: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word I rather find the apology that Word can be made to function reliably ONLY IF one reprograms it to be begging the question. It is usually thought that one buys software that functions

ARE: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word

2010-06-08 Thread David Creamer
> I was saying that Word can function reliably with large documents on a regular > basis, provided one uses styles and templates, as recommended. (Just expect > some exasperation with numbered lists.) Another thing that will "stabilize" Word documents is to link to graphics rather than embed or

ARE: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word

2010-06-05 Thread qui...@airmail.net
I rather find the apology that Word can be made to function reliably ONLY IF one reprograms it to be begging the question. It is usually thought that one buys software that functions without the user having to fix the program they just spent a few hundred dollars on. Scott On 6/3/10 12:35 PM,

Re: ARE: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word

2010-06-04 Thread quills
I rather find the apology that Word can be made to function reliably ONLY IF one reprograms it to be begging the question. It is usually thought that one buys software that functions without the user having to fix the program they just spent a few hundred dollars on. Scott On 6/3/10 12:35

ARE: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word

2010-06-04 Thread Alan T Litchfield
On 4/06/2010, at 5:35 AM, Tim J. Slager wrote: > I worked for 10 years at a company where we used Word to create > professional documentation with page counts reaching into the > thousands with very consistent template styles and rare file > corruption. We had the advantage of a developer

Re: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word

2010-06-03 Thread Steve Johnson
Where do you want to start? If you want professional documentation do not use Word, do not even think about it. Word cannot handle cross-references, there are various anomalies when converting Word to PDF. Word has had a bug since 2.0 such that if you put a hard page break directly in front of a

Re: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word

2010-06-03 Thread Steve Johnson
... and lest I forget, numbered lists are a NIGHTMARE in Word, effortless in Frame. On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 11:57 AM, Steve Johnson chinask...@gmail.com wrote: Where do you want to start? If you want professional documentation do not use Word, do not even think about it. Word cannot handle

Re: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word

2010-06-03 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
As far as: Word has had a bug since 2.0 such that if you put a hard page break directly in front of a heading and then cross-reference to that heading, Word inserts a hard page break in front of the cross-reference. In Word, a cross-reference refers to a bookmark. A bookmark is a selection of

Re: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word

2010-06-03 Thread Writer
shmue...@gmail.com wrote: From: Shmuel Wolfson shmue...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word To: Framers framers@lists.frameusers.com Date: Thursday, June 3, 2010, 8:12 AM As far as: Word has had a bug since 2.0 such that if you put a hard page break directly in front

RE: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word

2010-06-03 Thread Lea Rush
McDaniel Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word ... and lest I forget, numbered lists are a NIGHTMARE in Word, effortless in Frame. On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 11:57 AM, Steve Johnson chinask...@gmail.com wrote: Where do you want to start? If you want

ARE: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word

2010-06-03 Thread Tim J. Slager
@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word ... and lest I forget, numbered lists are a NIGHTMARE in Word, effortless in Frame. On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 11:57 AM, Steve Johnson chinask...@gmail.com wrote: Where do you want to start? If you want professional documentation do

Re: ARE: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word

2010-06-03 Thread Alan T Litchfield
On 4/06/2010, at 5:35 AM, Tim J. Slager wrote: I worked for 10 years at a company where we used Word to create professional documentation with page counts reaching into the thousands with very consistent template styles and rare file corruption. We had the advantage of a developer who

RE: ARE: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word

2010-06-03 Thread Fred Ridder
Alan T Litchfield wrote: On 4/06/2010, at 5:35 AM, Tim J. Slager wrote: I worked for 10 years at a company where we used Word to create professional documentation with page counts reaching into the thousands with very consistent template styles and rare file corruption. We had

RE: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word

2010-06-03 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Tim, As Fred pointed out, there are tons of things you can do with FrameScript or the FDK. I am partial to FrameScript because I make my living writing them, but you can really make FrameMaker fly with FrameScript automation. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-659-8267

RE: ARE: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word

2010-06-03 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Alan Litchfield wrote: On 4/06/2010, at 5:35 AM, Tim J. Slager wrote: I worked for 10 years at a company where we used Word to create professional documentation with page counts reaching into the thousands with very consistent template styles and rare file corruption. We had the

ARE: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word

2010-06-03 Thread Tim J. Slager
: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word ... and lest I forget, numbered lists are a NIGHTMARE in Word, effortless in Frame. On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 11:57 AM, Steve Johnson wrote: > Where do you want to start? If you want professional documentation do > not us

ARE: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word

2010-06-03 Thread Fred Ridder
Alan T Litchfield wrote: > On 4/06/2010, at 5:35 AM, Tim J. Slager wrote: > > > I worked for 10 years at a company where we used Word to create > > professional documentation with page counts reaching into the > > thousands with very consistent template styles and rare file > > corruption.

ARE: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word

2010-06-03 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Alan Litchfield wrote: > On 4/06/2010, at 5:35 AM, Tim J. Slager wrote: > > I worked for 10 years at a company where we used Word to create > > professional documentation with page counts reaching into the > > thousands with very consistent template styles and rare file > > corruption. We

Re: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word

2010-06-02 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
I don't think too much has changed between the two in the last few versions, except if you are interested in single sourcing. (Frame has better DITA support than earlier versions.) I find Frame's two greatest advantages to be automatic error checking when updating books and single sourcing.

Re: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word

2010-06-02 Thread Mike Wickham
Does anyone have a current comparison they can share?...thanks, Kelly. A Google search of Word vs FrameMaker pops up a whole bunch of comparisons. Mike Wickham ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list

Re: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word

2010-06-02 Thread Dr Rick Smith
Regarding Frame vs Word, let me explain how I use it: I'm a consultant whose vice is book writing. I've been writing books with unstructured Frame since version 4. I'm also obliged to use MS Word when writing reports for clients. Rather than list strong points of each, let me list weak

Re: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word

2010-06-02 Thread Mike Wickham
There are no analytics of average sentence complexity or grade level. You might want to check out the very inexpensive Readability Tools plugin from http://siliconprairiesoftware.com. There's no outlining feature with expand/collapse The inexpensive Outline Tools plugin is also

Re: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word

2010-06-01 Thread Bill Swallow
You're really talking apples vs. oranges here. Maybe you could be more specific about what you're looking for? Both allow you to create documents but in potentially very different manners. On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 12:44 PM, Kelly McDaniel kmcdan...@pavtech.com wrote: Does anyone have a current

RE: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word

2010-06-01 Thread Gerald Robertson
documents need frame. Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 13:07:38 -0400 Subject: Re: Framemaker 9 vs Microsoft Word From: techcommd...@gmail.com To: kmcdan...@pavtech.com CC: framers@lists.frameusers.com You're really talking apples vs. oranges here. Maybe you could be more specific about what you're