ing XML and CSS, so maybe
I'll look at this incrementally.
-=Ed.
> -Original Message-
> From: Rick Quatro [mailto:rick at rickquatro.com]
> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 5:01 PM
> To: 'Ed'; 'FrameMaker Forum'
> Subject: RE: Structuring documents (was R
Hi Ed,
I think you have too many experts in your list. Many of us learned the steps
as novices. For example,
>An expert to create an EDD and/or DTD.
You can learn to create an EDD by reading the FrameMaker documentation. If
you are going to use DITA, FrameMaker comes with an EDD that you can lea
Smarter)'; 'Alison Craig';
'FrameMaker Forum'
Subject: RE: Structuring documents (was RE: Adobe's New Corporate Strategies)
Matt-
People are asking why it's so hard to convert. My point is that for many
solo writers, it's hard to propose a conversion to ma
-Original Message-
> From: Matt Sullivan [mailto:matt at grafixtraining.com]
> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 3:42 PM
> To: 'Ed'; 'Bernard Aschwanden (Publishing Smarter)'; 'Alison Craig';
> 'FrameMaker Forum'
> Subject: RE: Structuring document
es at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Matt Sullivan
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 3:24 PM
To: 'Joseph Lorenzini'; 'FrameMaker Forum'
Subject: RE: Structuring documents (was RE: Adobe's New Corporate
Strategies)
While there's structured framemaker, dita, and a host of third party
o:framers-
> bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Bernard Aschwanden (Publishing
> Smarter)
> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 2:53 PM
> To: 'Alison Craig'; 'Matt Sullivan'; 'Joseph Lorenzini'; 'FrameMaker
Forum'
> Subject: RE: Structuring do
x27;s pretty smooth.
Bernard
-Original Message-
From: Alison Craig [mailto:alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com]
Sent: April-30-10 13:52
To: Bernard Aschwanden (Publishing Smarter); 'Matt Sullivan'; 'Joseph
Lorenzini'; 'FrameMaker Forum'
Subject: RE: Structuring docu
On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 17:15:17 -0400, "Ed" wrote:
>I went to an XSL class and was completely lost. Maybe it's changed since
>then, but XSL spooked me pretty well. I enjoy hacking XML and CSS, so maybe
>I'll look at this incrementally.
You aren't the only one who finds XSLT challenging! I've
been
On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 17:15:17 -0400, "Ed" wrote:
>I went to an XSL class and was completely lost. Maybe it's changed since
>then, but XSL spooked me pretty well. I enjoy hacking XML and CSS, so maybe
>I'll look at this incrementally.
You aren't the only one who finds XSLT challenging! I've
been
ing XML and CSS, so maybe
I'll look at this incrementally.
-=Ed.
> -Original Message-
> From: Rick Quatro [mailto:r...@rickquatro.com]
> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 5:01 PM
> To: 'Ed'; 'FrameMaker Forum'
> Subject: RE: Structuring documents (was RE: Ad
call it sheer bloody
mindedness--I wanted it badly enough to do it anyway.
Nadine
--- On Fri, 4/30/10, Ed wrote:
> From: Ed
> Subject: RE: Structuring documents (was RE: Adobe's New Corporate Strategies)
> To: "'Matt Sullivan'" , "'Bernard
call it sheer bloody
mindedness--I wanted it badly enough to do it anyway.
Nadine
--- On Fri, 4/30/10, Ed wrote:
> From: Ed
> Subject: RE: Structuring documents (was RE: Adobe's New Corporate Strategies)
> To: "'Matt Sullivan'" , "'Bernard
Hi Ed,
I think you have too many experts in your list. Many of us learned the steps
as novices. For example,
>An expert to create an EDD and/or DTD.
You can learn to create an EDD by reading the FrameMaker documentation. If
you are going to use DITA, FrameMaker comes with an EDD that you can lea
Smarter)'; 'Alison Craig';
'FrameMaker Forum'
Subject: RE: Structuring documents (was RE: Adobe's New Corporate Strategies)
Matt-
People are asking why it's so hard to convert. My point is that for many
solo writers, it's hard to propose a conversion to ma
-Original Message-
> From: Matt Sullivan [mailto:m...@grafixtraining.com]
> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 3:42 PM
> To: 'Ed'; 'Bernard Aschwanden (Publishing Smarter)'; 'Alison Craig';
> 'FrameMaker Forum'
> Subject: RE: Structuring document
llivan
Sent: April-29-10 16:24
To: 'Joseph Lorenzini'; 'FrameMaker Forum'
Subject: RE: Structuring documents (was RE: Adobe's New Corporate Strategies)
While there's structured framemaker, dita, and a host of third party plugins
can anyone really say its a simple, painl
-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Matt Sullivan
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 3:24 PM
To: 'Joseph Lorenzini'; 'FrameMaker Forum'
Subject: RE: Structuring documents (was RE: Adobe's New Corporate
Strategies)
While there's structured framemaker, dita, and a host of third party
#x27;; 'Joseph Lorenzini'; 'FrameMaker Forum'
Subject: RE: Structuring documents (was RE: Adobe's New Corporate
Strategies)
Just yesterday I dove again into the Frame 7.2 structure folder, looked at
all of the files - DTD, EDD, MOD, etc. Started reading the XML cookbook, and
#x27;; 'Joseph Lorenzini'; 'FrameMaker Forum'
Subject: RE: Structuring documents (was RE: Adobe's New Corporate
Strategies)
Just yesterday I dove again into the Frame 7.2 structure folder, looked at
all of the files - DTD, EDD, MOD, etc. Started reading the XML cookbook, and
ilto:framers-
> boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Bernard Aschwanden (Publishing
> Smarter)
> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 2:53 PM
> To: 'Alison Craig'; 'Matt Sullivan'; 'Joseph Lorenzini'; 'FrameMaker
Forum'
> Subject: RE: Structuring documen
x27;s pretty smooth.
Bernard
-Original Message-
From: Alison Craig [mailto:alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com]
Sent: April-30-10 13:52
To: Bernard Aschwanden (Publishing Smarter); 'Matt Sullivan'; 'Joseph
Lorenzini'; 'FrameMaker Forum'
Subject: RE: Structuring docu
'Joseph Lorenzini'; 'FrameMaker Forum'
Subject: RE: Structuring documents (was RE: Adobe's New Corporate Strategies)
Further to Matt's comments, I do conversion for clients, but usually 1000's of
pages at a time, and sometimes it's Word, Frame, or
sloppy Fr
an'; 'Joseph Lorenzini'; 'FrameMaker Forum'
Subject: RE: Structuring documents (was RE: Adobe's New Corporate Strategies)
Further to Matt's comments, I do conversion for clients, but usually 1000's of
pages at a time, and sometimes it's Word, Frame, or
slop
llivan
Sent: April-29-10 16:24
To: 'Joseph Lorenzini'; 'FrameMaker Forum'
Subject: RE: Structuring documents (was RE: Adobe's New Corporate Strategies)
While there's structured framemaker, dita, and a host of third party plugins
can anyone really say its a simple, painl
-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Matt Sullivan
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 3:24 PM
To: 'Joseph Lorenzini'; 'FrameMaker Forum'
Subject: RE: Structuring documents (was RE: Adobe's New Corporate
Str
On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 14:54:08 -0700, "Matt Sullivan"
wrote:
>As a point of correction...
>
>I didn't state the para you've attributed to me
>and I *do not* agree with it.
Ah. You were quoting it. I didn't notice that,
because you had omitted the usual top attribution
to the author, Joseph Lo
On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 14:54:08 -0700, "Matt Sullivan"
wrote:
>As a point of correction...
>
>I didn't state the para you've attributed to me
>and I *do not* agree with it.
Ah. You were quoting it. I didn't notice that,
because you had omitted the usual top attribution
to the author, Joseph Lo
lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy H.
Griffith
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 2:25 PM
To: 'FrameMaker Forum'
Subject: Re: Structuring documents (was RE: Adobe's New Corporate
Strategies)
On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 13:23:54 -0700, "Matt Sulli
lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy H.
Griffith
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 2:25 PM
To: 'FrameMaker Forum'
Subject: Re: Structuring documents (was RE: Adobe's New Corporate
Strategies)
On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 13:23:54 -0700, "Matt Sulli
On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 13:23:54 -0700, "Matt Sullivan"
wrote:
>While there's structured framemaker, dita, and a host
>of third party plugins can anyone really say its a simple,
>painless, and quick process to transition from unstructured
>framemaker to either structured or dita?
They can say
On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 13:23:54 -0700, "Matt Sullivan"
wrote:
>While there's structured framemaker, dita, and a host
>of third party plugins can anyone really say its a simple,
>painless, and quick process to transition from unstructured
>framemaker to either structured or dita?
They can say
-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Matt Sullivan
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 3:24 PM
To: 'Joseph Lorenzini'; 'FrameMaker Forum'
Subject: RE: Structuring documents (was RE: Adobe's New Corporate
Stra
While there's structured framemaker, dita, and a host of third party plugins
can anyone really say its a simple, painless, and quick process to
transition from unstructured framemaker to either structured or dita?
Sincerely,
Joseph Lorenzini
___
Hi
While there's structured framemaker, dita, and a host of third party plugins
can anyone really say its a simple, painless, and quick process to
transition from unstructured framemaker to either structured or dita?
Sincerely,
Joseph Lorenzini
___
Hi
I had high hopes for Buzzword when Adobe bought it, but rather than making
it a Word-killer they have slowed down the release cycle, added things I
don't care about, and been a bummer in general. I think they have too many
products and aren't supporting the really good ones like they should be.
Jo
I had high hopes for Buzzword when Adobe bought it, but rather than making
it a Word-killer they have slowed down the release cycle, added things I
don't care about, and been a bummer in general. I think they have too many
products and aren't supporting the really good ones like they should be.
Jo
like your representation of big business in general. Did
> you watch Food Inc the other day? Talk about dinosaurs!
>
> cud
>
>
> From: Alan T Litchfield
> To: Chris Despopoulos
> Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Sent: Mon, April 26, 2010 5:19:14 PM
> Subje
So Chris,
If we extend your prehistoric analogy, Adobe has become like the semi-
stationary sauropod who's legs are so vast that it must stand in one
place and swings its great neck to reach the greenest morsels. The
reach of its head and mouth are limited to the extent and range of
motion
My two cents...if only that:
So what is it we seek?
and
Does Adobe Systems listen?
As for me, I'm perfectly content with the latest version of Frame. I can only
take so much
technology upgrade.
Opinion is my own.
>From New York
Eduardo
On 4/26/10 7:07 AM, Chris Despopoulos wrote:
> And with desktop software. The next wave (you heard it here) is servers and
> services. Currently, the software innovation I'm aware of is in managing
> networks, whether managing an array of devices and applications, streams of
> financial data,
On 4/26/10 7:07 AM, Chris Despopoulos wrote:
And with desktop software. The next wave (you heard it here) is servers and
services. Currently, the software innovation I'm aware of is in managing networks,
whether managing an array of devices and applications, streams of financial data,
or en
c the other day? Talk about dinosaurs!
cud
From: Alan T Litchfield
To: Chris Despopoulos
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Sent: Mon, April 26, 2010 5:19:14 PM
Subject: Re: Adobe's New Corporate Strategies
So Chris,
If we extend your prehistoric analogy, Adobe has become like the
semi
Food Inc the other day? Talk about dinosaurs!
cud
From: Alan T Litchfield
To: Chris Despopoulos
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Sent: Mon, April 26, 2010 5:19:14 PM
Subject: Re: Adobe's New Corporate Strategies
So Chris,
If we extend your preh
Food Inc the other day? Talk about dinosaurs!
cud
From: Alan T Litchfield
To: Chris Despopoulos
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Sent: Mon, April 26, 2010 5:19:14 PM
Subject: Re: Adobe's New Corporate Strategies
So Chris,
If we extend your preh
So Chris,
If we extend your prehistoric analogy, Adobe has become like the semi-
stationary sauropod who's legs are so vast that it must stand in one
place and swings its great neck to reach the greenest morsels. The
reach of its head and mouth are limited to the extent and range of
motion
RE the good ole days when men were men and software was innovative.
What we're witnessing is a natural part of any innovative curve. Back when
FrameMaker first made waves, you could subscribe to three different magazines
that printed monthly articles about new and interesting software. When'
RE the good ole days when men were men and software was innovative.
What we're witnessing is a natural part of any innovative curve. Back when
FrameMaker first made waves, you could subscribe to three different magazines
that printed monthly articles about new and interesting software. When'
It's just that having an MBA doesn't automatically qualify you to lead
or even manage a company. The people in charge nowdays have lost sight
of what their bottom line is. They rely solely upon the bean counters to
tell them, when that is only the current line expense.
I'm waiting for the senio
It's just that having an MBA doesn't automatically qualify you to lead
or even manage a company. The people in charge nowdays have lost sight
of what their bottom line is. They rely solely upon the bean counters to
tell them, when that is only the current line expense.
I'm waiting for the seni
Reposting this to the frame list serve for people who aren't on HATT.
===
Hi Jeremy,
Let me say at the outset that I really like Adobe products. I think
FrameMaker and Robohelp are good products and that they serve most technical
writer's needs at th
Reposting this to the frame list serve for people who aren't on HATT.
===
Hi Jeremy,
Let me say at the outset that I really like Adobe products. I think
FrameMaker and Robohelp are good products and that they serve most technical
writer's needs at th
Isn't this the story of every place you've worked for the last 10
years almost? Since the salad days of spend-all-the-money-you-can? I
feel almost like Pinocchio being duped into going to Donkey Island ...
hi diddly dee, the high tech life for me...
And now all the "leaders" of our companies can t
Isn't this the story of every place you've worked for the last 10
years almost? Since the salad days of spend-all-the-money-you-can? I
feel almost like Pinocchio being duped into going to Donkey Island ...
hi diddly dee, the high tech life for me...
And now all the "leaders" of our companies can t
Interesting article today in the Silicon Valley Insider:
http://www.businessinsider.com/the-underlying-story-behind-adobes-failed-mobile-strategy-2010-4
It's nominally about Adobe's mobile strategy, but applies
to the entire corporate culture and how it has changed.
I really miss Doc Warnock... w
Interesting article today in the Silicon Valley Insider:
http://www.businessinsider.com/the-underlying-story-behind-adobes-failed-mobile-strategy-2010-4
It's nominally about Adobe's mobile strategy, but applies
to the entire corporate culture and how it has changed.
I really miss Doc Warnock... w
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