RE: FM 8: Xref markers keep breaking and re-breaking

2013-10-09 Thread Stephen O'Brien
la part de Alison Craig Envoyé : Tuesday, October 01, 2013 6:26 PM À : Scott Turner; Robert Lauriston Cc : Framers Objet : RE: FM 8: Xref markers keep breaking and re-breaking Not if you use X-Ref Markers in the Text Inset file. Alison -Original Message- From: framers-boun

FM 8: Xref markers keep breaking and re-breaking

2013-10-09 Thread Stephen O'Brien
at lists.frameusers.com] De la part de Alison Craig Envoy??: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 6:26 PM ??: Scott Turner; Robert Lauriston Cc?: Framers Objet?: RE: FM 8: Xref markers keep breaking and re-breaking Not if you use X-Ref Markers in the Text Inset file. Alison -Original Message- From: framers-bounces

FM 8: Index ... Another syntax question

2013-10-06 Thread VLM TechSubs
Can anybody see a mistake here: EmphasisAmerican Crisis, Default Para Fontby Thomas Paine ? The result is supposed to like: American Crisis, by Thomas Paine 123 The matching entries that look like: Paine, Thomas, EmphasisAmerican Crisis all work just fine. My entire index is ready to

RE: FM 8: Index ... Another syntax question

2013-10-06 Thread Fred Ridder
itself. -Fred Ridder From: techs...@vibrantlivingministries.org To: Framers@Lists.FrameUsers.com Subject: FM 8: Index ... Another syntax question Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2013 05:19:43 -0700 Can anybody see a mistake here: EmphasisAmerican Crisis, Default Para Fontby Thomas Paine ? The result is supposed

RE: FM 8: In standard index, tabbing problem with page numbers

2013-10-06 Thread Fred Ridder
entries. And in that particular case I would still avoid the tab because I think that the wide separation between entries and page numbers would make the index much harder to read and use. -Fred Ridder From: techs...@vibrantlivingministries.org To: Framers@Lists.FrameUsers.com Subject: FM 8

Re: FM 8: In standard index, tabbing problem with page numbers

2013-10-06 Thread Robert Lauriston
I don't know, but dot leaders in an index seems very eccentric and likely to make it much less readable. On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at 10:48 AM, VLM TechSubs techs...@vibrantlivingministries.org wrote: Greetings, I now have my index working properly … I’ll write more on that just as soon as I finish

Re: FM 8: Index ... Another syntax question

2013-10-06 Thread Robert Lauriston
Are they formatted wrong or missing entirely? If missing, check to make sure you didn't actually set those to some other marker type. That has happened to me many times. On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 5:19 AM, VLM TechSubs techs...@vibrantlivingministries.org wrote: My entire index is ready to go,

FM 8: Index ... Another syntax question

2013-10-06 Thread VLM TechSubs
Can anybody see a mistake here: American Crisis, by Thomas Paine ? The result is supposed to like: American Crisis, by Thomas Paine 123 The matching entries that look like: Paine, Thomas, American Crisis all work just fine. My entire index is ready to go, except for 3 entries that look

FM 8: Index ... Another syntax question

2013-10-06 Thread Fred Ridder
itself. -Fred Ridder From: techs...@vibrantlivingministries.org To: Framers at Lists.FrameUsers.com Subject: FM 8: Index ... Another syntax question Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2013 05:19:43 -0700 Can anybody see a mistake here: American Crisis, by Thomas Paine ? The result is supposed to like: American

FM 8: In standard index, tabbing problem with page numbers

2013-10-06 Thread Fred Ridder
entries. And in that particular case I would still avoid the tab because I think that the wide separation between entries and page numbers would make the index much harder to read and use. -Fred Ridder From: techs...@vibrantlivingministries.org To: Framers at Lists.FrameUsers.com Subject: FM 8

FM 8: Index ... Another syntax question

2013-10-06 Thread Robert Lauriston
Are they formatted wrong or missing entirely? If missing, check to make sure you didn't actually set those to some other marker type. That has happened to me many times. On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 5:19 AM, VLM TechSubs wrote: > My entire index is ready to go, except for 3 entries

FM 8: In standard index, tabbing problem with page numbers

2013-10-05 Thread VLM TechSubs
Greetings, I now have my index working properly . I'll write more on that just as soon as I finish up this project. Meanwhile, I have a small problem in the index. I have formatted my index entries with right-aligned tabs with leader dots. When an entry appears on several pages, such that the

FM 8: In standard index, tabbing problem with page numbers

2013-10-05 Thread VLM TechSubs
Greetings, I now have my index working properly . I'll write more on that just as soon as I finish up this project. Meanwhile, I have a small problem in the index. I have formatted my index entries with right-aligned tabs with leader dots. When an entry appears on several pages, such that the

FM 8: In standard index, tabbing problem with page numbers

2013-10-05 Thread Robert Lauriston
I don't know, but dot leaders in an index seems very eccentric and likely to make it much less readable. On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at 10:48 AM, VLM TechSubs wrote: > Greetings, > > I now have my index working properly ? I?ll write more on that just as soon > as I finish up this project. > > Meanwhile,

Re: FM 8: Index marker syntax

2013-10-03 Thread Robert Lauriston
Probably you need to modify the stuff in the index flow on the reference page in the generated index file, same as for formatting the table of contents. On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 5:04 PM, VLM TechSubs techs...@vibrantlivingministries.org wrote: Greetings! I’m going in circles here. I have a

Re: FM 8: Index marker syntax

2013-10-03 Thread Robert Lauriston
It looks like this? America 1 Just as an experiment, you might try taking the word of out of the marker text. On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 5:09 PM, VLM TechSubs techs...@vibrantlivingministries.org wrote: I should add that the result is supposed to look like America Coinage Act of 1965 .

Re: FM 8: Index marker syntax

2013-10-03 Thread John Sgammato
I am with Jeremy on this - I have seen some instances of screwy behavior when index entries are combined in a marker. These days I always put a single entry in any marker. On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 8:38 PM, Jeremy H. Griffith jer...@omsys.com wrote: On Wed, 2 Oct 2013 17:20:05 -0700, VLM TechSubs

Re: FM 8: Index marker syntax

2013-10-03 Thread Robert Lauriston
Did you create the index from scratch with the Add File Generated Index command? ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to

RE: QUESTION ABOUT A NONPRINTING CHARACTER (WAS: FM 8: Xref markers keep breaking and re-breaking)

2013-10-03 Thread Harro de Jong
VLM TechSubs wrote: Which has given me an idea. Perhaps I should just put some nonprinting character into all those empty chapter heading paragraphs, so that they no longer appear empty to FrameMaker. QUESTION: What character to use. I don’t wish to alter the spacing (centering) of these

Re: FM 8: Index marker syntax

2013-10-03 Thread Robert Lauriston
: RE: FM 8: Index marker syntax Okay ... I closed FM, reopened FM, saved every file in the book as mif, closed FM, moved all the .fm files to another directory, relaunched FM, opened and saved the book and each file back as .fm, saved and closed everything, shut FM, relaunched FM, reopened

RE: FM 8: Index marker syntax

2013-10-03 Thread Craig Ede
Boy of boy, is this topic burning up the bandwidth! Have you tried setting up a very simple test scenario where there is one file and a handful of markers so you can troubleshoot what is going on? Craig ___ You are currently subscribed to framers

FM 8: Index marker syntax

2013-10-03 Thread Fred Ridder
Frank Stearns wrote: > Finally, I have a very fuzzy memory that FM8 had introduced some bugs > in marker handling... Anyone else remember this? Do you have the > lastest version of FM8? I don't have a specific recollection of any index bug in FM8, but I have only used FM8 at my current

FM 8: Index marker syntax

2013-10-03 Thread Fred Ridder
Elchanan wrote: I have version 8.0p266, and no memory WRT FM8 indexing bugs. Then you only have the first of the three patches that were released for FM8. You are missing p273 (Feb 2008) and p277 (June 2008) -Fred Ridder -- next part -- An HTML attachment was

QUESTION ABOUT A NONPRINTING CHARACTER (WAS: FM 8: Xref markers keep breaking and re-breaking)

2013-10-03 Thread Harro de Jong
VLM TechSubs wrote: > > Which has given me an idea. Perhaps I should just put some nonprinting > character into all those empty chapter heading paragraphs, so that they no > longer appear empty to FrameMaker. QUESTION: What character to use. I > don?t wish to alter the spacing (centering) of

FM 8: Index marker syntax

2013-10-03 Thread Craig Ede
Boy of boy, is this topic burning up the bandwidth! Have you tried setting up a very simple test scenario where there is one file and a handful of markers so you can troubleshoot what is going on? Craig

FM 8: Index marker syntax

2013-10-03 Thread Robert Lauriston
ks, > Elchanan > > -Original Message- > From: VLM TechSubs [mailto:TechSubs at VibrantLivingMinistries.org] > Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 8:33 PM > To: 'Frank Stearns' > Cc: 'Framers' > Subject: RE: FM 8: Index marker syntax > > Okay ... > > I clos

FM 8: Index marker syntax

2013-10-02 Thread VLM TechSubs
Greetings! I'm going in circles here. I have a marker of type Index with the content America:Coinage Act of 1965. This appears in the index as a line under America, indented to the second level (correct so far), but with only a page number, no text. I copied and pasted the marker content

FM 8: Index marker syntax

2013-10-02 Thread VLM TechSubs
I should add that the result is supposed to look like America Coinage Act of 1965 . . . . . 1 Elchanan From: VLM TechSubs [mailto:techs...@vibrantlivingministries.org] Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 5:04 PM To: Framers Subject: FM 8: Index marker syntax Greetings! I'm

RE: FM 8: Index marker syntax

2013-10-02 Thread VLM TechSubs
in which I built a major index). I'm feeling VERY bewildered at the moment! :) Elchanan From: Jack DeLand [mailto:jackdel...@comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 5:10 PM To: 'VLM TechSubs' Subject: RE: FM 8: Index marker syntax Probably misunderstands your colon. Jack

Re: FM 8: Index marker syntax

2013-10-02 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Wed, 2 Oct 2013 17:20:05 -0700, VLM TechSubs techs...@vibrantlivingministries.org wrote: Could there be a problem with putting two separate entries of such construction into a single index marker? Are they separated with a semicolon? And no extra semis before or after? That should work,

Re: FM 8: Index marker syntax

2013-10-02 Thread Frank Stearns
On Wed, 2 Oct 2013, VLM TechSubs wrote: Greetings! I'm going in circles here. I have a marker of type Index with the content America:Coinage Act of 1965. This appears in the index as a line under America, indented to the second level (correct so far), but with only a page number, no text.

RE: FM 8: Index marker syntax

2013-10-02 Thread VLM TechSubs
TechSubs Cc: Framers Subject: Re: FM 8: Index marker syntax Did you create the index from scratch with the Add File Generated Index command? ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers

RE: FM 8: Index marker syntax

2013-10-02 Thread VLM TechSubs
Saved the index as mif, closed it, deleted the .fm version, reopened from mif, saved as FM 8, went to book, save all files in book, generate, save all files in book, jump to index, and voila! Same result as before. Sigh ... BTW, between steps, I recall breathing. :) Frank, I am most willing

RE: FM 8: Index marker syntax

2013-10-02 Thread VLM TechSubs
' Subject: RE: FM 8: Index marker syntax Thanks Frank, Robert, Jeremy, et. al. I so appreciate your help! More info: 1. I now see that even a simple marker entry EmphasisEisphora has this problem. It appears in the correct location alphabetically, it just looks like . . . . . . 1 2

RE: FM 8: Index marker syntax

2013-10-02 Thread Frank Stearns
, closed it, deleted the .fm version, reopened from mif, saved as FM 8, went to book, save all files in book, generate, save all files in book, jump to index, and voila! Same result as before. Sigh ... BTW, between steps, I recall breathing. :) Frank, I am most willing and eager to try your step

RE: FM 8: Index marker syntax

2013-10-02 Thread VLM TechSubs
- From: VLM TechSubs [mailto:techs...@vibrantlivingministries.org] Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 7:59 PM To: 'Frank Stearns' Cc: 'Framers' Subject: RE: FM 8: Index marker syntax Oh, I don't know what I was thinking. I've got a mif file open in Notepad++, no problem. Will write more in a bit

RE: FM 8: Index marker syntax

2013-10-02 Thread Fred Ridder
Frank Stearns wrote: Finally, I have a very fuzzy memory that FM8 had introduced some bugs in marker handling... Anyone else remember this? Do you have the lastest version of FM8? I don't have a specific recollection of any index bug in FM8, but I have only used FM8 at my current employer,

RE: FM 8: Index marker syntax

2013-10-02 Thread VLM TechSubs
Thanks Frank. See responses inline. -Original Message- From: Frank Stearns [mailto:fra...@fsatools.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 8:29 PM To: VLM TechSubs Cc: 'Frank Stearns'; 'Framers' Subject: RE: FM 8: Index marker syntax On Wed, 2 Oct 2013, VLM TechSubs wrote: 1

RE: FM 8: Index marker syntax

2013-10-02 Thread Fred Ridder
Elchanan wrote: I have version 8.0p266, and no memory WRT FM8 indexing bugs. Then you only have the first of the three patches that were released for FM8. You are missing p273 (Feb 2008) and p277 (June 2008) -Fred Ridder

RE: FM 8: Index marker syntax

2013-10-02 Thread VLM TechSubs
] Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 10:01 PM To: VLM TechSubs; 'Frank Stearns' Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: FM 8: Index marker syntax Elchanan wrote: I have version 8.0p266, and no memory WRT FM8 indexing bugs. Then you only have the first of the three patches that were

RE: FM 8: Index marker syntax

2013-10-02 Thread VLM TechSubs
: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 8:33 PM To: 'Frank Stearns' Cc: 'Framers' Subject: RE: FM 8: Index marker syntax Okay ... I closed FM, reopened FM, saved every file in the book as mif, closed FM, moved all the .fm files to another directory, relaunched FM, opened and saved the book and each file back

FM 8: Index marker syntax

2013-10-02 Thread VLM TechSubs
Greetings! I'm going in circles here. I have a marker of type Index with the content "America:Coinage Act of 1965". This appears in the index as a line under "America", indented to the second level (correct so far), but with only a page number, no text. I copied and pasted the marker content

FM 8: Index marker syntax

2013-10-02 Thread VLM TechSubs
I should add that the result is supposed to look like America Coinage Act of 1965 . . . . . 1 Elchanan From: VLM TechSubs [mailto:techs...@vibrantlivingministries.org] Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 5:04 PM To: Framers Subject: FM 8: Index marker syntax Greetings! I'm going

FM 8: Index marker syntax

2013-10-02 Thread VLM TechSubs
in which I built a major index). I'm feeling VERY bewildered at the moment! :) Elchanan From: Jack DeLand [mailto:jackdel...@comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 5:10 PM To: 'VLM TechSubs' Subject: RE: FM 8: Index marker syntax Probably misunderstands your colon. Jack DeLand

FM 8: Index marker syntax

2013-10-02 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Wed, 2 Oct 2013 17:20:05 -0700, "VLM TechSubs" wrote: >Could there be a problem with >putting two separate entries of such construction >into a single index marker? Are they separated with a semicolon? And no extra semis before or after? That should work, but we consider keeping them

FM 8: Index marker syntax

2013-10-02 Thread Frank Stearns
On Wed, 2 Oct 2013, VLM TechSubs wrote: > Greetings! > I'm going in circles here. I have a marker of type Index with the > content "America:Coinage Act of 1965". This appears in the index as > a line under "America", indented to the second level (correct so > far), but with only a page

FM 8: Index marker syntax

2013-10-02 Thread VLM TechSubs
To: VLM TechSubs Cc: Framers Subject: Re: FM 8: Index marker syntax Did you create the index from scratch with the Add File > Generated Index command?

FM 8: Index marker syntax

2013-10-02 Thread VLM TechSubs
ed the whole process, same result. 3.14 Saved the index as mif, closed it, deleted the .fm version, reopened from mif, saved as FM 8, went to book, save all files in book, generate, save all files in book, jump to index, and voila! Same result as before. Sigh ... BTW, between steps, I recall

FM 8: Index marker syntax

2013-10-02 Thread VLM TechSubs
' Subject: RE: FM 8: Index marker syntax Thanks Frank, Robert, Jeremy, et. al. I so appreciate your help! More info: 1. I now see that even a simple marker entry "Eisphora" has this problem. It appears in the "correct" location alphabetically, it just looks like . . . . .

FM 8: Index marker syntax

2013-10-02 Thread Frank Stearns
ted. > 3.13 So I jump there, notice that the original marker is still in > place, delete it, returned to 3.7 or so, repeated the whole process, > same result. > 3.14 Saved the index as mif, closed it, deleted the .fm version, > reopened from mif, saved as FM 8, went to book,

FM 8: Index marker syntax

2013-10-02 Thread VLM TechSubs
02, 2013 7:59 PM To: 'Frank Stearns' Cc: 'Framers' Subject: RE: FM 8: Index marker syntax Oh, I don't know what I was thinking. I've got a mif file open in Notepad++, no problem. Will write more in a bit. Elchanan -Original Message- From: VLM TechSubs [mailto:te

FM 8: Index marker syntax

2013-10-02 Thread VLM TechSubs
Thanks Frank. See responses inline. -Original Message- From: Frank Stearns [mailto:fra...@fsatools.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 8:29 PM To: VLM TechSubs Cc: 'Frank Stearns'; 'Framers' Subject: RE: FM 8: Index marker syntax On Wed, 2 Oct 2013, VLM TechSubs wrote: > 1

FM 8: Index marker syntax

2013-10-02 Thread VLM TechSubs
] Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 10:01 PM To: VLM TechSubs; 'Frank Stearns' Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: FM 8: Index marker syntax Elchanan wrote: I have version 8.0p266, and no memory WRT FM8 indexing bugs. Then you only have the first of the three patches that were

FM 8: Index marker syntax

2013-10-02 Thread VLM TechSubs
nan -Original Message- From: VLM TechSubs [mailto:techs...@vibrantlivingministries.org] Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 8:33 PM To: 'Frank Stearns' Cc: 'Framers' Subject: RE: FM 8: Index marker syntax Okay ... I closed FM, reopened FM, saved every file in the book as mif, closed FM

FM 8: Index marker syntax

2013-10-02 Thread Robert Lauriston
Probably you need to modify the stuff in the index flow on the reference page in the generated index file, same as for formatting the table of contents. On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 5:04 PM, VLM TechSubs wrote: > Greetings! > > > > I?m going in circles here. I have a marker of type Index with the

FM 8: Index marker syntax

2013-10-02 Thread Robert Lauriston
It looks like this? America 1 Just as an experiment, you might try taking the word "of" out of the marker text. On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 5:09 PM, VLM TechSubs wrote: > I should add that the result is supposed to look like > > > > America > >Coinage Act of 1965 . . . . . 1

FM 8: Index marker syntax

2013-10-02 Thread John Sgammato
I am with Jeremy on this - I have seen some instances of screwy behavior when index entries are combined in a marker. These days I always put a single entry in any marker. On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 8:38 PM, Jeremy H. Griffith wrote: > On Wed, 2 Oct 2013 17:20:05 -0700, "VLM TechSubs" > wrote: >

FM 8: Index marker syntax

2013-10-02 Thread Robert Lauriston
Did you create the index from scratch with the Add File > Generated Index command?

Re: FM 8: Xref markers keep breaking and re-breaking

2013-10-01 Thread Scott Turner
I never used version 8. And every time my xrefs broke it was either the xref marker had been deleted during editing or the relative path had been changed. Scott T. On Sep 30, 2013, at 17:40, VLM TechSubs techs...@vibrantlivingministries.org wrote: Greetings! I put xref markers in

RE: FM 8: Xref markers keep breaking and re-breaking

2013-10-01 Thread Reng, Dr. Winfried
regards Winfried From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of VLM TechSubs Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 12:42 AM To: Framers Subject: RE: FM 8: Xref markers keep breaking and re-breaking Perhaps I should add that this just happened

QUESTION ABOUT A NONPRINTING CHARACTER (WAS: FM 8: Xref markers keep breaking and re-breaking)

2013-10-01 Thread VLM TechSubs
to all, Elchanan From: Scott Turner [mailto:qui...@airmail.net] Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 12:12 AM To: VLM TechSubs Cc: Framers Subject: Re: FM 8: Xref markers keep breaking and re-breaking I never used version 8. And every time my xrefs broke it was either the xref marker had been

RE: FM 8: Xref markers keep breaking and re-breaking

2013-10-01 Thread VLM TechSubs
, October 01, 2013 8:36 AM To: Framers Subject: RE: FM 8: Xref markers keep breaking and re-breaking Hi Elchanan, If FrameMaker cannot open the target file, this may cause unresolved cross-references. Could it be that you have a file in the book which is closed and which triggers error messages

Re: FM 8: Xref markers keep breaking and re-breaking

2013-10-01 Thread Stuart Rogers
On 2013-Oct-01 12:09 PM, VLM TechSubs wrote: Great suggestion, thanks Winfried. I have been working with all files open, because some have that font error message upon opening, and I haven’t taken time yet to fix that. And … as time goes by, I think/suspect increasingly that this problem has to

RE: FM 8: Xref markers keep breaking and re-breaking

2013-10-01 Thread Fred Ridder
delete the marker (or conditionalize it and set that condition to hide), the cross-reference will be broken and the referring document will report it as unresolved. -Fred Ridder From: techs...@vibrantlivingministries.org To: wr...@tycoint.com; Framers@Lists.FrameUsers.com Subject: RE: FM 8: Xref

Re: FM 8: Xref markers keep breaking and re-breaking

2013-10-01 Thread Robert Lauriston
How about using printing characters, such as an en or em dash, on both sides? Start the autonumber format with a dash, and use a dash for the content? On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 9:09 AM, VLM TechSubs techs...@vibrantlivingministries.org wrote: Great suggestion, thanks Winfried. I have been working

RE: FM 8: Xref markers keep breaking and re-breaking

2013-10-01 Thread Craig Ede
Maybe what is happening is that you are closing the file without saving once the markers have been inserted. Craig From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Fred Ridder But the real point I want to make is that FrameMaker

Re: FM 8: Xref markers keep breaking and re-breaking

2013-10-01 Thread Scott Turner
Ooo, yes. If you use text insets, any xref inside that text inset will be reported as broken even though it is valid. On Sep 30, 2013, at 18:14, Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com wrote: Which source type are you using when you create the markers? Are there any text insets

RE: FM 8: Xref markers keep breaking and re-breaking

2013-10-01 Thread Alison Craig
Not if you use X-Ref Markers in the Text Inset file. Alison -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Scott Turner Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 2:57 PM To: Robert Lauriston Cc: Framers Subject: Re: FM 8

QUESTION ABOUT A NONPRINTING CHARACTER (WAS: FM 8: Xref markers keep breaking and re-breaking)

2013-10-01 Thread VLM TechSubs
to all, Elchanan From: Scott Turner [mailto:qui...@airmail.net] Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 12:12 AM To: VLM TechSubs Cc: Framers Subject: Re: FM 8: Xref markers keep breaking and re-breaking I never used version 8. And every time my xrefs broke it was either the xref marker had been

FM 8: Xref markers keep breaking and re-breaking

2013-10-01 Thread Reng, Dr. Winfried
regards Winfried From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of VLM TechSubs Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 12:42 AM To: Framers Subject: RE: FM 8: Xref markers keep breaking and re-breaking Perhaps I should add that this just happened

FM 8: Xref markers keep breaking and re-breaking

2013-10-01 Thread VLM TechSubs
, October 01, 2013 8:36 AM To: Framers Subject: RE: FM 8: Xref markers keep breaking and re-breaking Hi Elchanan, If FrameMaker cannot open the target file, this may cause unresolved cross-references. Could it be that you have a file in the book which is closed and which triggers error messages

FM 8: Xref markers keep breaking and re-breaking

2013-10-01 Thread Stuart Rogers
On 2013-Oct-01 12:09 PM, VLM TechSubs wrote: > Great suggestion, thanks Winfried. I have been working with all files > open, because some have that font error message upon opening, and I > haven?t taken time yet to fix that. And ? as time goes by, I > think/suspect increasingly that this problem

FM 8: Xref markers keep breaking and re-breaking

2013-10-01 Thread Fred Ridder
lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Reng, Dr. Winfried Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 8:36 AM To: Framers Subject: RE: FM 8: Xref markers keep breaking and re-breaking Hi Elchanan, If FrameMaker cannot open the target file, this may causeunresolved cr

FM 8: Xref markers keep breaking and re-breaking

2013-10-01 Thread Robert Lauriston
How about using printing characters, such as an en or em dash, on both sides? Start the autonumber format with a dash, and use a dash for the content? On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 9:09 AM, VLM TechSubs wrote: > Great suggestion, thanks Winfried. I have been working with all files open, > because some

FM 8: Xref markers keep breaking and re-breaking

2013-10-01 Thread Craig Ede
Maybe what is happening is that you are closing the file without saving once the markers have been inserted. Craig From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Fred Ridder But the real point I want to make is that FrameMaker

FM 8: Xref markers keep breaking and re-breaking

2013-10-01 Thread Scott Turner
Ooo, yes. If you use text insets, any xref inside that text inset will be reported as "broken" even though it is valid. > On Sep 30, 2013, at 18:14, Robert Lauriston wrote: > > Which source type are you using when you create the markers? > > Are there any text insets involved? > > On

FM 8: Xref markers keep breaking and re-breaking

2013-10-01 Thread Alison Craig
Not if you use X-Ref Markers in the Text Inset file. Alison -Original Message- From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Scott Turner Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 2:57 PM To: Robert Lauriston Cc: Framers Subject: Re: FM 8

FM 8: Xref markers keep breaking and re-breaking

2013-10-01 Thread Scott Turner
I never used version 8. And every time my xrefs broke it was either the xref marker had been deleted during editing or the relative path had been changed. Scott T. > On Sep 30, 2013, at 17:40, "VLM TechSubs" VibrantLivingMinistries.org> wrote: > > Greetings! > > I put xref markers in

FM 8: Set ctrl-tab to last selected?

2013-09-30 Thread VLM TechSubs
Greetings! Is there a way to change the way ctrl-tab works, so that it works like alt-tab in Windows, namely, displays documents in most-recently-selected order, rather than in Frame-random order? As it is now, I find this feature worthless, when it could be extremely useful. I also

FM 8: Xref markers keep breaking and re-breaking

2013-09-30 Thread VLM TechSubs
Greetings! I put xref markers in throughout a book. These markers are simple xrefs to other chapters, nothing fancy. I generate the book, all is well. After working for a while, I do another generate (sometimes with intervening generates that were fine), and all of a sudden, lots of broken

RE: FM 8: Xref markers keep breaking and re-breaking

2013-09-30 Thread VLM TechSubs
...@vibrantlivingministries.org] Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 3:41 PM To: Framers Subject: FM 8: Xref markers keep breaking and re-breaking Greetings! I put xref markers in throughout a book. These markers are simple xrefs to other chapters, nothing fancy. I generate the book, all is well

FM 8: Right-align page numbers in index

2013-09-30 Thread VLM TechSubs
Greetings! In my index, I've set the paratags for the three existing index levels (Level1IOM, etc.) to have a right-aligned tab with leader dots, and I've inserted a tab character in each of the three corresponding paragraphs on the IX reference page, resulting in

SOLVED: FM 8: Right-align page numbers in index

2013-09-30 Thread VLM TechSubs
: FM 8: Right-align page numbers in index Greetings! In my index, I've set the paratags for the three existing index levels (Level1IOM, etc.) to have a right-aligned tab with leader dots, and I've inserted a tab character in each of the three corresponding paragraphs on the IX reference

FM 8: Set ctrl-tab to "last selected"?

2013-09-30 Thread VLM TechSubs
Greetings! Is there a way to change the way ctrl-tab works, so that it works like alt-tab in Windows, namely, displays documents in most-recently-selected order, rather than in Frame-random order? As it is now, I find this feature worthless, when it could be extremely useful. I also find

FM 8: Xref markers keep breaking and re-breaking

2013-09-30 Thread VLM TechSubs
Greetings! I put xref markers in throughout a book. These markers are simple xrefs to other chapters, nothing fancy. I generate the book, all is well. After working for a while, I do another generate (sometimes with intervening generates that were fine), and all of a sudden, lots of broken

FM 8: Xref markers keep breaking and re-breaking

2013-09-30 Thread VLM TechSubs
...@vibrantlivingministries.org] Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 3:41 PM To: Framers Subject: FM 8: Xref markers keep breaking and re-breaking Greetings! I put xref markers in throughout a book. These markers are simple xrefs to other chapters, nothing fancy. I generate the book, all is well. After

FM 8: Right-align page numbers in index

2013-09-30 Thread VLM TechSubs
Greetings! In my index, I've set the paratags for the three existing index levels (Level1IOM, etc.) to have a right-aligned tab with leader dots, and I've inserted a tab character in each of the three corresponding paragraphs on the IX reference page, resulting in

SOLVED: FM 8: Right-align page numbers in index

2013-09-30 Thread VLM TechSubs
1 PM To: Framers Subject: FM 8: Right-align page numbers in index Greetings! In my index, I've set the paratags for the three existing index levels (Level1IOM, etc.) to have a right-aligned tab with leader dots, and I've inserted a tab character in each of the three corresponding paragraphs on

FM 8: Xref markers keep breaking and re-breaking

2013-09-30 Thread Robert Lauriston
Which source type are you using when you create the markers? Are there any text insets involved? On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 3:40 PM, VLM TechSubs wrote: > Greetings! > > > > I put xref markers in throughout a book. These markers are simple xrefs to > other chapters, nothing fancy. I generate the

FM 8: Turn on hyperlinks in generated documents ... after the fact

2013-09-29 Thread VLM TechSubs
Greetings everyone! I created a book with generated documents, but I neglected to check the little activate hyperlinks setting. I've no idea why the default is not on, but apparently it is not. So . how can I turn the generation of hyperlinks on, after the fact? Thanks very much!

FM 8: Turn on hyperlinks in URLs

2013-09-29 Thread VLM TechSubs
set these links up to achieve this outcome? Using FM 8, Win 7 x64, Acrobat XI. Thanks very much! Elchanan ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com

RE: FM 8: Turn on hyperlinks in URLs

2013-09-29 Thread Fred Ridder
...@vibrantlivingministries.org To: Framers@Lists.FrameUsers.com Subject: FM 8: Turn on hyperlinks in URLs Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2013 16:16:59 -0700 Greetings everyone! I created a book containing a large number of hyperlinks, as text. (E.g., http://destination.com/). These are not coming through in PDF

RE: FM 8: Turn on hyperlinks in URLs

2013-09-29 Thread VLM TechSubs
Thanks Fred, perfect! I now have a PDF file with links that work. What a great list! :) Elchanan From: Fred Ridder [mailto:docu...@hotmail.com] Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 4:39 PM To: VLM TechSubs; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: FM 8: Turn on hyperlinks in URLs How

FM 8: Turn on hyperlinks in generated documents ... after the fact

2013-09-29 Thread VLM TechSubs
Greetings everyone! I created a book with generated documents, but I neglected to check the little "activate hyperlinks" setting. I've no idea why the default is not "on", but apparently it is not. So . how can I turn the generation of hyperlinks "on", after the fact? Thanks very much!

FM 8: Turn on hyperlinks in URLs

2013-09-29 Thread VLM TechSubs
set these links up to achieve this outcome? Using FM 8, Win 7 x64, Acrobat XI. Thanks very much! Elchanan -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20130929/a6ba7e86/attachment.html>

FM 8: Turn on hyperlinks in URLs

2013-09-29 Thread Fred Ridder
Ridder From: techs...@vibrantlivingministries.org To: Framers at Lists.FrameUsers.com Subject: FM 8: Turn on hyperlinks in URLs Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2013 16:16:59 -0700 Greetings everyone! I created a book containing a large number of hyperlinks, as text. (E.g., http://destination.com/). These are not c

FM 8: Turn on hyperlinks in URLs

2013-09-29 Thread VLM TechSubs
Thanks Fred, perfect! I now have a PDF file with links that work. What a great list! :) Elchanan From: Fred Ridder [mailto:docu...@hotmail.com] Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 4:39 PM To: VLM TechSubs; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: FM 8: Turn on hyperlinks in URLs How

FM 8: Autonumbers not auto-ing

2013-09-28 Thread VLM TechSubs
Greetings, I have a paratag H1 Chapter with autonumber format S:Chapter n+ and a corresponding paratag HA Appendix with autonumber format S:Appendix A+ for appendices (without the quotation marks, of course). :) When I place several chapters and appendices, each of which begins with this

RE: FM 8: Autonumbers not auto-ing

2013-09-28 Thread Fred Ridder
some other chapter-level autonumbering, you will have to manually control the resetting of those numbering series in the autonumbering formats. -Fred Ridder From: techs...@vibrantlivingministries.org To: Framers@Lists.FrameUsers.com Subject: FM 8: Autonumbers not auto-ing Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2013

FM 8: Autonumbers not auto-ing

2013-09-28 Thread VLM TechSubs
Greetings, I have a paratag H1 Chapter with autonumber format "S:Chapter " and a corresponding paratag HA Appendix with autonumber format "S:Appendix for appendices (without the quotation marks, of course). :) When I place several chapters and appendices, each of which begins with

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