Re: [Framers] FrameMaker vs InDesign

2017-06-26 Thread David Creamer
As mentioned in my first post, InDesign does not have table variables (unfortunately). The table title can be a regular paragraph style that runs above the table and is kept with the table, so not having a “table title row” doesn’t really have an impact either way. The table styles can have

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker vs InDesign

2017-06-25 Thread D L Reynolds
> Donna, > > Can you cite a few examples of ways that Frames table editor is superior to > InDesign and/or things that can be done with tables in Frame that cannot be > done in InDesign? The publication in question is almost entirely composed of > tables.. around 600 to be exact! > > These

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker vs InDesign

2017-06-24 Thread Tori Muir
Again, based on painful personal experience I must respectfully disagree. *Production artists* can be trained to do things in a systematic and template-based fashion – they're thrilled to find built-in tools to make the whole process faster, more consistent, and more maintainable. But true

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker vs InDesign

2017-06-24 Thread David Creamer
I would give InDesign the edge over tables with its advanced Table, Cell, and Paragraph styles. ID can link to the Excel file to pull in updates to the data; with a third-party plug-in even more features are available, such as two-way edit updates. Also, InDesign can import/link to a single

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker vs InDesign

2017-06-24 Thread David Creamer
list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.' Subject: Re: [Framers] FrameMaker vs InDesign All good points about InDesign and people not using styles, etc. One other issue about indexes: I happen to be working on a 438 page InDesign book today and I started generated the index about an hour and fif

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker vs InDesign

2017-06-24 Thread David Creamer
That is just a result of poor training. It may or may not be the designer's fault--most likely the company/manager is to blame by not providing the training or enforcing a professional workflow. In my experience, once a designer sees the advantages of using based-on master pages, text styles, and

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker vs InDesign

2017-06-24 Thread Craig Ede
ers-bounces+craigede=hotmail@lists.frameusers.com> on behalf of Rick Quatro <r...@rickquatro.com> Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 3:04 PM To: 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.' Subject: Re: [Framers] FrameMaker vs InDesign All good points about InDesign and people not

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker vs InDesign

2017-06-24 Thread Craig Ede
Mikey Shine <mikeysh...@gmail.com> Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 3:48 PM To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. Subject: Re: [Framers] FrameMaker vs InDesign They’ve had two people trained previously but both have since moved on to other opportunities... > On Jun 23, 2

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker vs InDesign

2017-06-23 Thread Mikey Shine
Donna, Can you cite a few examples of ways that Frames table editor is superior to InDesign and/or things that can be done with tables in Frame that cannot be done in InDesign? The publication in question is almost entirely composed of tables.. around 600 to be exact! These may very well be

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker vs InDesign

2017-06-23 Thread D L Reynolds
I use both FrameMaker and InDesign, love them both. But if the document in question has a lot of tables, stay with FrameMaker. FrameMaker’s table editor is far superior to InDesign’s IMO. I’ve converted hundreds of docs from FrameMaker to InDesign — some of which shouldn’t have been converted,

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker vs InDesign

2017-06-23 Thread Mikey Shine
They’ve had two people trained previously but both have since moved on to other opportunities... > On Jun 23, 2017, at 2:03 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote: > > Or train someone else to use FrameMaker. Someone who knows InDesign > shouldn't have much trouble learning it. > >

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker vs InDesign

2017-06-23 Thread Rick Quatro
process and 64 gigs of RAM! Rick -Original Message- From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Tori Muir Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 3:15 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: [Framers] FrameMaker vs InDesign Regrettably

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker vs InDesign

2017-06-23 Thread Robert Lauriston
That's one argument for sticking with Frame: it might take a lot more time to update and maintain in InDesign. Though if the company has multiple InDesign users, they may have a handle on that. The heavy InDesign users I know mostly use it in a pretty template-driven manner, taking content

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker vs InDesign

2017-06-23 Thread Craig, Alison
] FrameMaker vs InDesign > Regrettably, that isn't necessarily true. A lot of the folks who use InD > are first and foremost *designers*, and have no qualms about > hand-formatting everything on the page to produce a lovely composition. Yes! I've indeed worked with InDesign designers who have eve

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker vs InDesign

2017-06-23 Thread Monique Semp
Regrettably, that isn't necessarily true. A lot of the folks who use InD are first and foremost *designers*, and have no qualms about hand-formatting everything on the page to produce a lovely composition. Yes! I've indeed worked with InDesign designers who have every format manually applied.

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker vs InDesign

2017-06-23 Thread Tori Muir
Regrettably, that isn't necessarily true. A lot of the folks who use InD are first and foremost *designers*, and have no qualms about hand-formatting everything on the page to produce a lovely composition. It can be very difficult to get users with that mindset to switch to a

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker vs InDesign

2017-06-23 Thread Robert Lauriston
Or train someone else to use FrameMaker. Someone who knows InDesign shouldn't have much trouble learning it. Wha'ts delivered to the customer? FM files or PDF or ? On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 6:39 PM, Mikey Shine wrote: > Why? > > Well I think the easy answer is that I hear

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker vs InDesign

2017-06-23 Thread Peter Gold
Good summary, David. I think I learned a couple of new points of comparison between FM and ID beyond those in the several articles and discussions that result from the Google search I suggested earlier. On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 8:08 AM, David Creamer wrote: > I

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker vs InDesign

2017-06-23 Thread David Creamer
I use, teach, and consult for both programs--just completed a 1400 page book in InDesign. When you say "publications", are you referring to books or magazine-type products? If the latter, generally InDesign would be a much better choice, but not having seen the publication I can only give For

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker vs InDesign

2017-06-23 Thread Jeff Coatsworth
alf Of Mikey Shine Sent: June-22-17 9:39 PM To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. Subject: Re: [Framers] FrameMaker vs InDesign Why? Well I think the easy answer is that I hear most often from my employer is that I am the ONLY one who can work on this publication and this

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker vs InDesign

2017-06-23 Thread Mikey Shine
ikey Shine > Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 11:23 AM > To: framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: [Framers] FrameMaker vs InDesign > > My company has informed me that they’d like to switch one of our major > publications over from FrameMaker to InDesign. If conversion is not an >

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker vs InDesign

2017-06-23 Thread Mikey Shine
Why? Well I think the easy answer is that I hear most often from my employer is that I am the ONLY one who can work on this publication and this one publication is a huge part of the contract. Should something either happen to me or my employment with the company, they feel they'd find

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker vs InDesign

2017-06-22 Thread Steve Rickaby
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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker vs InDesign

2017-06-22 Thread Steve Rickaby
Echoing others' queries as to why? Many years ago I attended an interview for a contract with a client that had advertised a job as requiring 'Pagemaker skills'. I did not have 'Pagemaker skills' (even by then Pagemaker was obsolete), but I was intrigued. In discussion it turned out that

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker vs InDesign

2017-06-22 Thread Craig, Alison
-bounces+acraig=bkultrasound@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Rick Quatro Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 8:56 AM To: 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.' Subject: Re: [Framers] FrameMaker vs InDesign Hi Mikey, The first question I always ask is "Why?" Is

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker vs InDesign

2017-06-22 Thread Peter Gold
Converting publications from any application to another is always a challenge. Search Google for "framemaker vs indesign" for opinions and experiences and advice. dtptools.com introduced its MIF filter for InDesign, a utility that converts FrameMaker files saved as MIF (Maker Intercha

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker vs InDesign

2017-06-22 Thread Robert Lauriston
What do they hope to accomplish by doing that? The only sane reason I know would be that you deliver only as PDF and/or print and want to be able to tweak it to get more visually distinctive results than you get with FrameMaker. There's a service that will do the conversion:

Re: [Framers] FrameMaker vs InDesign

2017-06-22 Thread Rick Quatro
- From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Mikey Shine Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 11:23 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: [Framers] FrameMaker vs InDesign My company has informed me that they’d like to switch one of our major pu

[Framers] FrameMaker vs InDesign

2017-06-22 Thread Mikey Shine
My company has informed me that they’d like to switch one of our major publications over from FrameMaker to InDesign. If conversion is not an option, they wouldn’t be opposed to rebuilding the entire publication from scratch as an InDesign document. Has anyone gone through this process before?

Re: FrameMaker vs InDesign

2012-09-03 Thread Robert Lauriston
I currently use FrameMaker to single-source PDF, online help (with RoboHelp), Word (with MIF2Go), text with layout (with MIF2Go and Word), and XHTML (with MIF2Go). I'm pretty fed up with FrameMaker 10 but InDesign's not among the practical alternatives. What I'd really like is a copy of

FrameMaker vs InDesign

2012-08-31 Thread Graeme R Forbes
Rob: I switched to ID when Apple dropped Classic and Adobe reneged on its promise to make all its major applications PPC/OSX native. The grass on the other side is somewhat greener, especially if you're having stability issues with FM and resent having to break footnotes across pages manually.

Re: FrameMaker vs InDesign

2012-08-31 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 11:44 -0600 31/8/12, Graeme R Forbes wrote: On the minus side, it's 99e on top of what you pay for ID; on the plus side, it's really good and DTP Tools has excellent customer support. I also use both. Slight lack of structure support in InD, though ;-) -- Steve

FrameMaker vs InDesign

2012-08-31 Thread Graeme R Forbes
Rob: I switched to ID when Apple dropped Classic and Adobe reneged on its promise to make all its "major" applications PPC/OSX native. The grass on the other side is somewhat greener, especially if you're having stability issues with FM and resent having to break footnotes across pages

FrameMaker vs InDesign

2012-08-31 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 11:44 -0600 31/8/12, Graeme R Forbes wrote: >On the minus side, it's 99e on top of what you pay for ID; on the plus side, >it's really good and DTP Tools has excellent customer support. I also use both. Slight lack of structure support in InD, though ;-) -- Steve

FrameMaker vs InDesign

2012-08-31 Thread Robert Lauriston
I currently use FrameMaker to single-source PDF, online help (with RoboHelp), Word (with MIF2Go), text with layout (with MIF2Go and Word), and XHTML (with MIF2Go). I'm pretty fed up with FrameMaker 10 but InDesign's not among the practical alternatives. What I'd really like is a copy of

RE: FrameMaker vs InDesign book files

2010-02-28 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 14:39 -0500 27/2/10, Rick Quatro wrote: I thought maybe scripting could come to the rescue, since InDesign has a lot of scripting choices (AppleScript on Mac, VBScript on PC, JavaScript on both). My thought was to write a script that would loop through the duplicated book's files and point

Indesign VB Scriptin [was FrameMaker vs InDesign book files]

2010-02-28 Thread Chris Despopoulos
Is it true that nDesign supports VB scripting? Is the handling of a document model any better than that for Word? What I mean is, in Maker you can us the API to get all the text items in a paragraph, and that breaks the pgf into all the char format changes, all the table anchors, aframe

RE: Indesign VB Scripting [was FrameMaker vs. InDesign book files]

2010-02-28 Thread David Spreadbury
[was FrameMaker vs InDesign book files] Is it true that nDesign supports VB scripting? Is the handling of a document model any better than that for Word? What I mean is, in Maker you can us the API to get all the text items in a paragraph, and that breaks the pgf into all the char format changes, all

FrameMaker vs InDesign book files

2010-02-28 Thread Michael Zaichenko
ro.com > To: srickaby at wordmongers.demon.co.uk > Subject: RE: FrameMaker vs InDesign book files > Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 14:39:50 -0500 > CC: framers at lists.frameusers.com > > Hi Steve, > > I thought maybe scripting could come to the rescue, since InDesign has a lot >

FrameMaker vs InDesign book files

2010-02-28 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 14:39 -0500 27/2/10, Rick Quatro wrote: >I thought maybe scripting could come to the rescue, since InDesign has a lot >of scripting choices (AppleScript on Mac, VBScript on PC, JavaScript on >both). My thought was to write a script that would loop through the >duplicated book's files and point

Indesign VB Scriptin [was FrameMaker vs InDesign book files]

2010-02-28 Thread Chris Despopoulos
Is it true that nDesign supports VB scripting? Is the handling of a document model any better than that for Word? What I mean is, in Maker you can us the API to get all the text items in a paragraph, and that breaks the pgf into all the char format changes, all the table anchors, aframe

Indesign VB Scripting [was FrameMaker vs. InDesign book files]

2010-02-28 Thread David Spreadbury
[was FrameMaker vs InDesign book files] Is it true that nDesign supports VB scripting? Is the handling of a document model any better than that for Word? What I mean is, in Maker you can us the API to get all the text items in a paragraph, and that breaks the pgf into all the char format changes

FrameMaker vs InDesign book files

2010-02-27 Thread Steve Rickaby
Here is an issue that just caught me out, so I'm posting it here in case it's of use to anyone who uses both apps. When versioning books in FrameMaker, I duplicate the entire enclosing folder and then create an alias to the book file in the copied folder. This is a common operation. The alias

RE: FrameMaker vs InDesign book files

2010-02-27 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Steve, I thought maybe scripting could come to the rescue, since InDesign has a lot of scripting choices (AppleScript on Mac, VBScript on PC, JavaScript on both). My thought was to write a script that would loop through the duplicated book's files and point them to the files in the duplicated

RE: FrameMaker vs InDesign book files

2010-02-27 Thread Michael Zaichenko
To: srick...@wordmongers.demon.co.uk Subject: RE: FrameMaker vs InDesign book files Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 14:39:50 -0500 CC: framers@lists.frameusers.com Hi Steve, I thought maybe scripting could come to the rescue, since InDesign has a lot of scripting choices (AppleScript on Mac, VBScript

FrameMaker vs InDesign book files

2010-02-27 Thread Steve Rickaby
Here is an issue that just caught me out, so I'm posting it here in case it's of use to anyone who uses both apps. When versioning books in FrameMaker, I duplicate the entire enclosing folder and then create an alias to the book file in the copied folder. This is a common operation. The alias

FrameMaker vs InDesign book files

2010-02-27 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Steve, I thought maybe scripting could come to the rescue, since InDesign has a lot of scripting choices (AppleScript on Mac, VBScript on PC, JavaScript on both). My thought was to write a script that would loop through the duplicated book's files and point them to the files in the duplicated

Re: InDesign and FrameMaker Text Entry Comparison (WAS: FrameMaker vs. InDesign, round CS4)

2008-09-26 Thread Paul Findon
Hi Peter, This is a good start, but, wait, there's more to it. While the power click brings an InDesign master-page text frame to the body page, where it works both like and differently from FM, you'll soon fill it to overflowing, and then... * You can only type to the bottom of the first

InDesign and FrameMaker Text Entry Comparison (WAS: FrameMaker vs. InDesign, round CS4)

2008-09-26 Thread Paul Findon
Hi Peter, > This is a good start, but, wait, there's more to it. While the "power > click" brings an InDesign master-page text frame to the body page, > where it works both like and differently from FM, you'll soon fill it > to overflowing, and then... > > * You can only type to the bottom of the

InDesign and FrameMaker Text Entry Comparison (WAS: FrameMaker vs. InDesign, round CS4)

2008-09-25 Thread Peter Gold
This is really a new topic. On 23 Sep 2008, at 21:05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Every time I try the demo of InDesign I can't get past the part where I make a page and look for where the text entry starts. As in, where is the cursor for text? and On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 9:38 AM, Paul

Re: FrameMaker vs. InDesign, round CS4

2008-09-25 Thread quills
I'm sorry to report that after doing the procedure you listed below, I still couldn't enter text without drawing a text box within the margins. This is exactly why it isn't more than a page layout program. It fails to provide me with a default page that can be used to write upon without having

FrameMaker vs. InDesign, round CS4

2008-09-25 Thread Paul Findon
On 23 Sep 2008, at 21:05, quills at airmail.net wrote: > Every time I try the demo of InDesign I can't get past the part where > I make a page and look for where the text entry starts. As in, where > is the cursor for text? On the New Document dialog box, select Master Text Frame, then click

InDesign and FrameMaker Text Entry Comparison (WAS: FrameMaker vs. InDesign, round CS4)

2008-09-25 Thread Peter Gold
This is really a new topic. >> On 23 Sep 2008, at 21:05, quills at airmail.net wrote: > >> Every time I try the demo of InDesign I can't get past the part where >> I make a page and look for where the text entry starts. As in, where >> is the cursor for text? and > On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 9:38

FrameMaker vs. InDesign, round CS4

2008-09-25 Thread qui...@airmail.net
I'm sorry to report that after doing the procedure you listed below, I still couldn't enter text without drawing a text box within the margins. This is exactly why it isn't more than a page layout program. It fails to provide me with a default page that can be used to write upon without having

FrameMaker vs. InDesign, round CS4

2008-09-24 Thread Paul Findon
Hi Sarah, Not sure how strong it will be, but ID CS4 certainly appears to offer the tools that will allow some unstructured FM users to make the switch. Incidentally, it looks like Apple may have finally switched to InDesign for its user guides, which until now have been made with Mac

FrameMaker vs. InDesign, round CS4

2008-09-23 Thread Sarah O'Keefe
Hi framers, I just posted about this on my blog and am interested in your thoughts: http://www.scriptorium.com/palimpsest/2008/09/indesign-cs4-hannibal.html Regards, Sarah -- Sarah O'Keefe

Re: FrameMaker vs. InDesign, round CS4

2008-09-23 Thread quills
Sarah, Every time I try the demo of InDesign I can't get past the part where I make a page and look for where the text entry starts. As in, where is the cursor for text? It still feels like a page layout program, it still acts like a page layout program, it still wants you to obsess over page

Re: FrameMaker vs. InDesign, round CS4

2008-09-23 Thread Paul Findon
Hi Sarah, Not sure how strong it will be, but ID CS4 certainly appears to offer the tools that will allow some unstructured FM users to make the switch. Incidentally, it looks like Apple may have finally switched to InDesign for its user guides, which until now have been made with Mac

Re: FrameMaker vs. InDesign, round CS4

2008-09-23 Thread quills
Sarah, As a final thought, I'll add this. Any tool that won't automatically add pages to the text flow when I come to the end of a page is an automatic no-go. If I have to add text boxes to the page in order to enter text, it's a no-go. Even Adobe compares it against Xpress, and NOT

RE: FrameMaker vs. InDesign, round CS4

2008-09-23 Thread John Sgammato
: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 3:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FrameMaker vs. InDesign, round CS4 Hi framers, I just posted about this on my blog and am interested in your thoughts: http://www.scriptorium.com/palimpsest/2008/09/indesign-cs4-hannibal.html Regards, Sarah

Re: FrameMaker vs. InDesign, round CS4

2008-09-23 Thread Peter Gold
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 5:24 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sarah, As a final thought, I'll add this. Any tool that won't automatically add pages to the text flow when I come to the end of a page is an automatic no-go. If I have to add text boxes to the page in order to enter text, it's a

Re: FrameMaker vs. InDesign, round CS4

2008-09-23 Thread Peter Gold
Hi, Sarah: (I also posted on your blog) ...UNTIL NOW..., as the late movie trailer guy might say, I've been under Adobe's non-disclosure agreement for ID CS4 pre-release testers. ...BUT, IN A WORLD... where disclosure can now be thrown to the winds, I'll add a few comments. ID's been sneaking

Re: Re: FrameMaker vs. InDesign, round CS4

2008-09-23 Thread quills
It's still not ready for prime time. At least not for technical documentation. It's still an Xpress style layout program for magazines and brochures, not long documents. The paradigm of it's tools and how you go about things are based upon the paste up board of a graphic designer. Don't tell me

FrameMaker vs. InDesign, round CS4

2008-09-23 Thread Sarah O'Keefe
Hi framers, I just posted about this on my blog and am interested in your thoughts: http://www.scriptorium.com/palimpsest/2008/09/indesign-cs4-hannibal.html Regards, Sarah -- Sarah O'Keefe

FrameMaker vs. InDesign, round CS4

2008-09-23 Thread qui...@airmail.net
Sarah, Every time I try the demo of InDesign I can't get past the part where I make a page and look for where the text entry starts. As in, where is the cursor for text? It still feels like a page layout program, it still acts like a page layout program, it still wants you to obsess over page

FrameMaker vs. InDesign, round CS4

2008-09-23 Thread John Sgammato
at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Sarah O'Keefe Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 3:22 PM To: framers at frameusers.com Subject: FrameMaker vs. InDesign, round CS4 Hi framers, I just posted about this on my blog and am interested in your thoughts: http://www.scriptorium.com/palimpsest/2008/09/indesign-cs4

FrameMaker vs. InDesign, round CS4

2008-09-23 Thread qui...@airmail.net
Sarah, As a final thought, I'll add this. Any tool that won't automatically add pages to the text flow when I come to the end of a page is an automatic no-go. If I have to add text boxes to the page in order to enter text, it's a no-go. Even Adobe compares it against Xpress, and NOT

FrameMaker vs. InDesign, round CS4

2008-09-23 Thread Peter Gold
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 5:24 PM, wrote: > Sarah, > > As a final thought, I'll add this. Any tool that won't automatically > add pages to the text flow when I come to the end of a page is an > automatic no-go. If I have to add text boxes to the page in order to > enter text, it's a no-go. Here's

FrameMaker vs. InDesign, round CS4

2008-09-23 Thread Peter Gold
Hi, Sarah: (I also posted on your blog) "...UNTIL NOW...," as the late movie trailer guy might say, I've been under Adobe's non-disclosure agreement for ID CS4 pre-release testers. "...BUT, IN A WORLD..." where disclosure can now be thrown to the winds, I'll add a few comments. ID's been

FrameMaker vs. InDesign, round CS4

2008-09-23 Thread qui...@airmail.net
It's still not ready for prime time. At least not for technical documentation. It's still an Xpress style layout program for magazines and brochures, not long documents. The paradigm of it's tools and how you go about things are based upon the paste up board of a graphic designer. Don't tell me

FrameMaker vs. InDesign CS3

2008-01-24 Thread Lise Bible
I currently create manuals in FrameMaker for the products that are manufactured at this location. Deliverable is pdf and printed matter. I've been using unstructured FrameMaker 7.1 on Win XP and the marketing department has been using InDesign CS2 on Win XP. They're planning to upgrade to CS3.

RE: FrameMaker vs. InDesign CS3

2008-01-24 Thread Matt Sullivan
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lise Bible Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 10:34 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: FrameMaker vs. InDesign CS3 I currently create manuals in FrameMaker for the products that are manufactured at this location. Deliverable is pdf and printed

Re: FrameMaker vs. InDesign CS3

2008-01-24 Thread Yves Barbion
@lists.frameusers.com Subject: FrameMaker vs. InDesign CS3 I currently create manuals in FrameMaker for the products that are manufactured at this location. Deliverable is pdf and printed matter. I've been using unstructured FrameMaker 7.1 on Win XP and the marketing department has been using

Re: FrameMaker vs. InDesign CS3

2008-01-24 Thread Peter Gold
Hi, Lisa: There are two InDesign plug-ins you should look into while considering the move to ID from FM. * Cross-References: every bit as good as FM's, plus a few extras, like an option for on next/previous/this page, if the reference source is on next or same or previous page. Reasonable price

FrameMaker vs. InDesign CS3

2008-01-24 Thread Lise Bible
I currently create manuals in FrameMaker for the products that are manufactured at this location. Deliverable is pdf and printed matter. I've been using unstructured FrameMaker 7.1 on Win XP and the marketing department has been using InDesign CS2 on Win XP. They're planning to upgrade to CS3.

FrameMaker vs. InDesign CS3

2008-01-24 Thread Matt Sullivan
...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Lise Bible Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 10:34 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: FrameMaker vs. InDesign CS3 I currently create manuals in FrameMaker for the products that are manufactured

FrameMaker vs. InDesign CS3

2008-01-24 Thread Yves Barbion
88 882-2819 > > -Original Message- > From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com > [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Lise Bible > Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 10:34 AM > To: framers at lists.frameusers.com > Subject: FrameMaker vs. InDesign CS3 > > I c

FrameMaker vs. InDesign CS3

2008-01-24 Thread Peter Gold
Hi, Lisa: There are two InDesign plug-ins you should look into while considering the move to ID from FM. * Cross-References: every bit as good as FM's, plus a few extras, like an option for "on next/previous/this page," if the reference source is on next or same or previous page. Reasonable

Re: Framemaker vs InDesign

2007-02-14 Thread Yves Barbion
I agree with Dov and Ann too. And you can add this to the list: - XML with DITA - Tables and table formats (especially with the great, inexpensive TableCleaner plug-in) - Cross-references - Conditional text - Cross-channel publishing with WebWorks Publisher (and maybe other Help

Re: Framemaker vs InDesign

2007-02-14 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 15:52 -0800 13/2/07, Linda Rose wrote: Is InDesign a suitable replacement for Framemaker for creating long, technical documentation? Linda... go to http://www.fm4osx.org/comp.html and click on the 'detailed FrameMaker Feature Comparison' link for a download file that contrasts FrameMaker

Framemaker vs InDesign

2007-02-14 Thread Ann Zdunczyk
On Behalf Of Linda Rose Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 6:53 PM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Framemaker vs InDesign Is InDesign a suitable replacement for Framemaker for creating long, technical documentation? ___ You are currently

Framemaker vs InDesign

2007-02-14 Thread Yves Barbion
I agree with Dov and Ann too. And you can add this to the list: - XML with DITA - Tables and table formats (especially with the great, inexpensive TableCleaner plug-in) - Cross-references - Conditional text - Cross-channel publishing with WebWorks Publisher (and maybe other

Framemaker vs InDesign

2007-02-14 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 15:52 -0800 13/2/07, Linda Rose wrote: >Is InDesign a suitable replacement for Framemaker for creating long, >technical documentation? Linda... go to and click on the 'detailed FrameMaker Feature Comparison' link for a download file that contrasts

Framemaker vs InDesign

2007-02-13 Thread Linda Rose
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RE: Framemaker vs InDesign

2007-02-13 Thread Dov Isaacs
@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Framemaker vs InDesign Is InDesign a suitable replacement for Framemaker for creating long, technical documentation? ___ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers

RE: Framemaker vs InDesign

2007-02-13 Thread Ann Zdunczyk
: Framemaker vs InDesign Is InDesign a suitable replacement for Framemaker for creating long, technical documentation? ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank

Framemaker vs InDesign

2007-02-13 Thread Linda Rose
Is InDesign a suitable replacement for Framemaker for creating long, technical documentation?

Framemaker vs InDesign

2007-02-13 Thread Dov Isaacs
ry 13, 2007 3:53 PM > To: framers at lists.frameusers.com > Subject: Framemaker vs InDesign > > Is InDesign a suitable replacement for Framemaker for creating long, > technical documentation? > ___