RE: More bad news on TCS4: no longer includes Photoshop

2012-10-01 Thread Craig Ede
options to make up for whatever package you don't get at the point of departure. Craig Subject: Re: More bad news on TCS4: no longer includes Photoshop Illustrator is a better choice as a component? Really? Ever try editing hundreds of screen snaps for software documentation in Illustrator

RE: More bad news on TCS4: no longer includes Photoshop

2012-09-30 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 13:59 +0200 26/9/12, Gust, Dieter wrote: Most technical documentation use cases don't deal with CMYK so I think cheap software or freeware (Photoshop Elements, IrfanView...) should fulfill the demands. For screenshots RoboScreenCapture (which is good) is included in TCS4. A lot of

More bad news on TCS4: no longer includes Photoshop

2012-09-30 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 13:59 +0200 26/9/12, Gust, Dieter wrote: >Most technical documentation use cases don't deal with CMYK so I think cheap >software or freeware (Photoshop Elements, IrfanView...) should fulfill the >demands. For screenshots RoboScreenCapture (which is good) is included in >TCS4. A lot of

More bad news on TCS4: no longer includes Photoshop

2012-09-29 Thread Craig Ede
that there are other options to make up for whatever package you don't get at the point of departure. Craig Subject: Re: More bad news on TCS4: no longer includes Photoshop Illustrator is a better choice as a component? Really? Ever try editing hundreds of screen snaps for software document

Re: More bad news on TCS4: no longer includes Photoshop

2012-09-27 Thread Robert Lauriston
Somebody here reported a bug in printing to .ps. I gave up on printing to anything other than Adobe PDF because I'd constantly forget to change the printer back and end up with errors in generating PDF. Definitely saves me time in the long run never to print directly. How about Adobe enhancing

RE: More bad news on TCS4: no longer includes Photoshop

2012-09-27 Thread Karen Robbins
At 12:00 PM -0500 9/27/12, Jeff Coatsworth jeff.coatswo...@jonassoftware.com wrote (about the printing problem): They're working on it - I just got an e-mail from my contact at Adobe and they've recreated the issue with a sample book I gave them. There is a workaround - flip to Structured FM

RE: More bad news on TCS4: no longer includes Photoshop

2012-09-27 Thread Jeff Coatsworth
Subject: RE: More bad news on TCS4: no longer includes Photoshop At 12:00 PM -0500 9/27/12, Jeff Coatsworth jeff.coatswo...@jonassoftware.com wrote (about the printing problem): They're working on it - I just got an e-mail from my contact at Adobe and they've recreated the issue with a sample

More bad news on TCS4: no longer includes Photoshop

2012-09-27 Thread Karen Robbins
At 12:00 PM -0500 9/27/12, Jeff Coatsworth wrote (about the printing problem): >They're working on it - I just got an e-mail from my contact at >Adobe and they've recreated the issue with a sample book I gave >them. There is a workaround - flip to Structured FM and you don't >get the error.

More bad news on TCS4: no longer includes Photoshop

2012-09-27 Thread Jeff Coatsworth
ramers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: More bad news on TCS4: no longer includes Photoshop At 12:00 PM -0500 9/27/12, Jeff Coatsworth wrote (about the printing problem): >They're working on it - I just got an e-mail from my contact at >Adobe and they've recreated the issue with a sample book I

More bad news on TCS4: no longer includes Photoshop

2012-09-26 Thread Rob Shell
Dear framers: I must add that I have found another disadvantage to buying TCS4, especially if you are a first-time buyer. TCS4 does not include Photoshop, whereas TCS2 does, or did. I must confess that I find it odd that Adobe and not a single reviewer has mentioned this. If you are a student, it

RE: More bad news on TCS4: no longer includes Photoshop

2012-09-26 Thread Gust, Dieter
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Rob Shell Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 12:23 PM Subject: More bad news on TCS4: no longer includes Photoshop I must add that I have found another disadvantage to buying TCS4, especially

RE: More bad news on TCS4: no longer includes Photoshop

2012-09-26 Thread Jeff Coatsworth
Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Gust, Dieter Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 7:59 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: More bad news on TCS4: no longer includes Photoshop From: framers-boun

Re: More bad news on TCS4: no longer includes Photoshop

2012-09-26 Thread Art Campbell
Subject: More bad news on TCS4: no longer includes Photoshop I must add that I have found another disadvantage to buying TCS4, especially if you are a first-time buyer. TCS4 does not include Photoshop, whereas TCS2 does, or did I must confess that I find it odd that Adobe and not a single

Re: More bad news on TCS4: no longer includes Photoshop

2012-09-26 Thread Writer
As for editing images, even though I have CS 5, most of the time I use Paint Shop Pro (≈$100). Obviously, I have simpler photographic needs than many other people. I prefer Paint Shop Pro, too. Photoshop is usually overkill for me. Maybe it's because we're Canadian, Allison. =D Nadine

Re: More bad news on TCS4: no longer includes Photoshop

2012-09-26 Thread Robert Lauriston
Getting Illustrator makes upgrading from TCS 3.5 to 4 considerably more appealing, not that I plan to. I have Photoshop but it's overkill for my needs. I would never spend a dime on it. There are freeware bitmap editors that do everything I need from Photoshop. You really can't print books from

RE: More bad news on TCS4: no longer includes Photoshop

2012-09-26 Thread Alison Craig
Of Art Campbell Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 5:58 AM To: Gust, Dieter Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: More bad news on TCS4: no longer includes Photoshop Illustrator is a better choice as a component? Really? Ever try editing hundreds of screen snaps for software documentation

Re: More bad news on TCS4: no longer includes Photoshop

2012-09-26 Thread Bernard Gagne
...@gmail.com To: Gust, Dieter dieter.g...@itl.eu Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.com Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 8:57:40 AM Subject: Re: More bad news on TCS4: no longer includes Photoshop Illustrator is a better choice as a component? Really? Ever try editing hundreds

Re: More bad news on TCS4: no longer includes Photoshop

2012-09-26 Thread Karen Robbins
At 12:00 PM -0500 9/26/12, Rob Shell wrote: Subject: More bad news on TCS4: no longer includes Photoshop 1. One cannot print a book in unstructured FM11. and Gust, Dieter answered: You refer to a bug, which is really annoying, but printing the book in structured mode might be a suitable

RE: More bad news on TCS4: no longer includes Photoshop

2012-09-26 Thread David Creamer
I think TSC4 should have INCLUDED Illustrator, not replaced Photoshop--but then, Adobe didn't ask me... In my experience, more users will benefit more from AI, than PS. Screen captures are mostly processed in SnagIt or similar program, making PS overkill for those images. For image editing,

RE: More bad news on TCS4: no longer includes Photoshop

2012-09-26 Thread Jeff Coatsworth
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 11:41 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: More bad news on TCS4: no longer includes Photoshop Getting Illustrator makes upgrading from TCS 3.5 to 4 considerably more appealing, not that I

RE: More bad news on TCS4: no longer includes Photoshop

2012-09-26 Thread Jeff Coatsworth
: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 1:38 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: More bad news on TCS4: no longer includes Photoshop At 12:00 PM -0500 9/26/12, Rob Shell wrote: Subject: More bad news on TCS4: no longer includes Photoshop 1. One cannot print a book in unstructured FM11. and Gust, Dieter

RE: More bad news on TCS4: no longer includes Photoshop

2012-09-26 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Bernard, I agree. I own the Creative Suite as well and it's frustrating having overlap of the applications. It's less expensive to buy the suites in the first place, but when you only want to upgrade one of the components, you can't do it. Rick Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-283-5045

More bad news on TCS4: no longer includes Photoshop

2012-09-26 Thread Rob Shell
Dear framers: I must add that I have found another disadvantage to buying TCS4, especially if you are a first-time buyer. TCS4 does not include Photoshop, whereas TCS2 does, or did. I must confess that I find it odd that Adobe and not a single reviewer has mentioned this. If you are a student, it

More bad news on TCS4: no longer includes Photoshop

2012-09-26 Thread Gust, Dieter
From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Rob Shell Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 12:23 PM Subject: More bad news on TCS4: no longer includes Photoshop > I must add that I have found another disadvantage to buying T

More bad news on TCS4: no longer includes Photoshop

2012-09-26 Thread Jeff Coatsworth
good deal. -Original Message- From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Gust, Dieter Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 7:59 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: More bad news on TCS4: no longer includes Photoshop Fro

More bad news on TCS4: no longer includes Photoshop

2012-09-26 Thread Art Campbell
r 26, 2012 12:23 PM > Subject: More bad news on TCS4: no longer includes Photoshop > > > I must add that I have found another disadvantage to buying TCS4, > especially if you are a first-time buyer. > > TCS4 does not include Photoshop, whereas TCS2 does, or did > >

More bad news on TCS4: no longer includes Photoshop

2012-09-26 Thread Alison Craig
Of Art Campbell Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 5:58 AM To: Gust, Dieter Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: More bad news on TCS4: no longer includes Photoshop Illustrator is a better choice as a component? Really? Ever try editing hundreds of screen snaps for software

More bad news on TCS4: no longer includes Photoshop

2012-09-26 Thread Karen Robbins
At 12:00 PM -0500 9/26/12, Rob Shell wrote: >Subject: More bad news on TCS4: no longer includes Photoshop >1. One cannot print a book in unstructured FM11. and Gust, Dieter answered: >You refer to a bug, which is really annoying, but printing the book >in structured mode might b

More bad news on TCS4: no longer includes Photoshop

2012-09-26 Thread Bethany Lee
: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Gust, Dieter Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 7:59 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: More bad news on TCS4: no longer includes Photoshop From: framers-bounces

More bad news on TCS4: no longer includes Photoshop

2012-09-26 Thread Robert Lauriston
Getting Illustrator makes upgrading from TCS 3.5 to 4 considerably more appealing, not that I plan to. I have Photoshop but it's overkill for my needs. I would never spend a dime on it. There are freeware bitmap editors that do everything I need from Photoshop. You really can't print books from

More bad news on TCS4: no longer includes Photoshop

2012-09-26 Thread Bernard Gagne
ieter" Cc: "framers at lists.frameusers.com" Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 8:57:40 AM Subject: Re: More bad news on TCS4: no longer includes Photoshop Illustrator is a better choice as a component? Really? Ever try editing hundreds of screen snaps for software document

More bad news on TCS4: no longer includes Photoshop

2012-09-26 Thread Writer
>As for editing images, even though I have CS 5, most of the time I use Paint >Shop Pro (?$100). Obviously, I have simpler photographic needs than many other >people. I prefer Paint Shop Pro, too. Photoshop is usually overkill for me. Maybe it's because we're Canadian, Allison. =D Nadine

More bad news on TCS4: no longer includes Photoshop

2012-09-26 Thread David Creamer
I think TSC4 should have INCLUDED Illustrator, not replaced Photoshop--but then, Adobe didn't ask me... In my experience, more users will benefit more from AI, than PS. Screen captures are mostly processed in SnagIt or similar program, making PS overkill for those images. For image editing,

More bad news on TCS4: no longer includes Photoshop

2012-09-26 Thread Jeff Coatsworth
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 11:41 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: More bad news on TCS4: no longer includes Photoshop Getting Illustrator makes upgrading from TCS 3.5 to 4 considerably more appealing

More bad news on TCS4: no longer includes Photoshop

2012-09-26 Thread Jeff Coatsworth
: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 1:38 PM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: More bad news on TCS4: no longer includes Photoshop At 12:00 PM -0500 9/26/12, Rob Shell wrote: >Subject: More bad news on TCS4: no longer includes Photoshop >1. One cannot print a book in unstructured FM11. an

More bad news on TCS4: no longer includes Photoshop

2012-09-26 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Bernard, I agree. I own the Creative Suite as well and it's frustrating having overlap of the applications. It's less expensive to buy the suites in the first place, but when you only want to upgrade one of the components, you can't do it. Rick Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-283-5045

More bad news on TCS4: no longer includes Photoshop

2012-09-26 Thread Robert Lauriston
Somebody here reported a bug in printing to .ps. I gave up on printing to anything other than Adobe PDF because I'd constantly forget to change the printer back and end up with errors in generating PDF. Definitely saves me time in the long run never to print directly. How about Adobe enhancing